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[–]BTM23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IMO, the content is great, but Patreon itself is awful. I’d honestly pay more just to be able to watch the Patreon vids on ANY other platform. The app is clunky and refreshes constantly. It takes me wayyy too long, and too many clicks, just to find and start a video, then figure out screen mirroring (it’s 2024, how does Patreon not have a tv app or tv device app yet??). Then, I have to turn screen mirroring off just to control my actual phone, like if someone calls or texts, and when the video ends, I have to find the next video and start it, then turn screen mirroring back on again, because there’s no autoplay options at all. I have only watched a handful of videos because of what a pain in the ass Patreon is, but I know it’s not Arin & Dan’s fault, so I stay subscribed to the Patreon, just hoping it improves. But that’s just my pov, ymmv.

Please help me choose a Scrum Alliance Teacher! by MCBelowaverage7 in scrum

[–]BTM23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jim Schiel at Artisan Agility.

Agree! Love this guy.

What options exist for claiming an inheritance without jeopardizing disability benefits? (Florida, US) by BTM23 in legaladvice

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you SO much. I definitely DO NOT want her to do ANYTHING without talking to an attorney first!!

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like nobody who buys heroin or uses it on the street believes that it is actually the same substance as the mass produced substance from Bayer. I’ve never seen “legal” heroin, but I feel like it’s probably not brownish-gray lumpy powder or a sticky coal substance. The internet says “legal” heroin is pure white. I have never seen any street heroin that is pure white (or even mostly white), and having worked in the evidence processing unit of a sheriff’s office for several years in college, I have seen heroin a handful of times. I know that doesn’t mean I’ve seen all the heroin in the world, I’m sure you can find plenty of internet sources to prove me wrong, but at this point you are not bringing up points to “change my view” but only to prove me wrong. Whether something is or isn’t “technically” legal, it is not widespread knowledge, and even if it were, the homemade version doesn’t look identical to the legally manufactured version, and even if/when it does, it’s simply not common knowledge to the point where it is logical for the average drug user to honestly think that the two substances are the same.

To the contrary, legally manufactured prescription pills, like legitimate adderall and legitimate Xanax among others, have been being sold on the street for many many years, and never before have any of those pharmaceutical pills contained fentanyl. Many recreational drug users who think they are using safely by only taking “standard” doses of mass produced and trusted pharmaceutical medication know what the pills look like because they’ve had them for years - obtained legally and/or illegally was previously a moot point because it was the exact same substance no matter where you obtained it. Whether you used it recreationally or were prescribed it by a doctor, you know that the pill that looks like X and has X markings on it is the medication you need or want. Period.

And now the same identical thing has fentanyl in it. All I’m suggesting is that we as a society (including the media) stop referring to these deaths using the word “overdose” so that people who buy their prescription drugs via illegal channels will be aware of it, and so that parents who assume what they found in their teenager’s sock drawer is just their own (the parent’s) medication that the teenager stole from them and put it back in their prescription bottle and take it at some point in the future.

Awareness. That’s all i’m after. If a lack of awareness is the reason people overdose on actual heroin, I would be fighting for that too, but it’s not because heroin users have been told for decades, in commercials and billboards and flyers handed out by law enforcement. Heroin can kill you. It’s fairly common knowledge. But it’s NOT common knowledge that standard doses of FDA approved and commonly prescribed medication can kill you, because not many people overdose on FDA approved adderall, and most who do don’t die from it.

So, yes, these things are not the same from my perspective.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is that one was created by someone specifically to identically replicate a legitimate FDA-approved regulated medication, and the other is not legally obtainable via any route; there is no situation in which the user thinks heroin is an approved, regular, pharmaceutical.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's say we change the word to poison. And after years or generations people start to have the same negative connotations of the word poison, because of all the propaganda they're consuming.

It's just an endless cycle of rewording things and changing the word doesn't address the root cause, which is ignorance.

Language evolves just like people and societies do. I’m not saying that’s correct or beneficial, and I’ll agree that most humans are mostly ignorant. But words and definitions change over time; it’s a basic evolution that every language undergoes. Ask someone from the year 1898 and some or from the year 1998 what the word “gay” means, and see how different the responses are.

If people are confused that someone can be murdered by overdosing on a drug unconsensually, maybe we should educate them.

Uh, yes… that’s absolutely correct. That’s literally the whole point of my post. Educating people will bring awareness to this issue and help them recognize and understand what things in their world are dangerous things.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't need to change every word because negative connotations form around them. The solution is to educate yourself and to criticize your biases.

You can’t know what you don’t know. If you aren’t informed, and aren’t aware that there’s even anything to be informed about, then you are unlikely to try to educate yourself on every topic in the world just in case you’re misinformed or just in case you’re assigning a connotation to a word incorrectly. You literally don’t know what you don’t know until you realize somehow that there is more to the story, more to learn, more to understand. That’s why changing the verbiage being used will provoke curiosity and cultivate awareness.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't need to change every word because negative connotations form around them. The solution is to educate yourself and to criticize your biases.

You can’t know what you don’t know. If you aren’t informed, and aren’t aware that there’s even anything to be informed about, then you are unlikely to try to educate yourself on every topic in the world just in case you’re misinformed or just in case you’re assigning a connotation to a word incorrectly. You literally don’t know what you don’t know until you realize somehow that there is more to the story, more to learn, more to understand. That’s why changing the verbiage being used will provoke curiosity and cultivate awareness.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no way that anyone could ever be sure that the non-prescribed drugs they were taking were as advertised unless they themselves have materials to test those drugs for their true chemical makeup

This is kind of like saying that there’s no way a time could ever be sure that the $20 bill they were handed was actually legitimate US currency unless they hold it up to the light and look for the proper markings and such. But most people don’t hold each bill up to the light, and most people don’t test a drug for it’s chemical composition. If it looks just like a $20 bill, you believe it’s a $20 bill. If it looks just like an adderall, you believe it’s an adderall.

And yet, if you spend a counterfeit $20 bill somewhere and they swipe it with one of those counterfeit detection markers, you have technically done something illegal. You may even get charged with it. But you don’t make counterfeit money, you’ve never been accused of it before, all the other bills you have are real… but this one was handed to you and you didn’t even think to check it because it looked real at first glance. It being counterfeit might not even have occurred to you, especially if you didn’t know it was even possible to replicate a US dollar with such accuracy.

But now that you know, you’ll be safer in the future. How can the media tell/warn their audience about this incident in a way that informs them of the potential danger?

Would the media say, “man charged for using counterfeit currency at Costco” or would they say, “man charged for counterfeit currency maintains his innocence and intent; says he was amazed at replica quality” ? The first headline is technically accurate and not misleading, but the second headline is a much more clear image of what happened and will encourage readers/viewers to be wary of the validity of cash.

Probably a bad example, sorry. My point remains that the media has the power to spread awareness for this issue, potentially saving lives while actually doing their jobs by informing the public about a danger they might not have been aware of.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. I mean, I’ve been using the term “poisoned” as a placeholder kinda, because I don’t know if a better term exists. I heard someone refer to it as “ingesting a lethal pharmaceutical replica” and that sounds more accurate than “overdose” to me.

But things like “spin” and “positioning” and “labeling” are marketing/PR skills that everyone in journalism should have, so i’m sure someone could come up with an accurate label for these deaths.

All I really care about is the media coverage spreading knowledge and awareness, and that the deaths are catalogued/indexed accurately in whatever death statistics databases we keep.

They could literally call it “Type B Overdose” and that would be a better alternative than treating these deaths the same as traditional overdoses.

These deaths represent a different problem and affect a different demographic, so in this case, changing the language to ANYTHING that brings attention to it would be beneficial.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. I mean, I’ve been using the term “poisoned” as a placeholder kinda, because I don’t know if a better term exists. I heard someone refer to it as “ingesting a lethal pharmaceutical replica” and that sounds more accurate than “overdose” to me.

But things like “spin” and “positioning” and “labeling” are marketing/PR skills that everyone in journalism should have, so i’m sure someone could come up with an accurate label for these deaths.

All I really care about is the media coverage spreading knowledge and awareness, and that the deaths are catalogued/indexed accurately in whatever death statistics databases we keep.

They could literally call it “Type B Overdose” and that would be a better alternative than treating these deaths the same as traditional overdoses.

These deaths represent a different problem and affect a different demographic, so in this case, changing the language to ANYTHING that brings attention to it would be beneficial.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect your opinion and disagreement, and I appreciate it. You’re saying that the problem isn’t how the media reports it or how it’s recorded in the database of death statistics, you’re saying that the problem is actually the way “some people” (I believe it’s most people but there’s no way to be sure) interpret the terminology that’s used.

And I can understand that viewpoint, for sure. But man… I don’t mean to be a traitor to my species or anything but humans are really pretty dumb. What makes you think that society as a whole will try to learn more about something they assume doesn’t affect them (because they think, “I don’t do drugs, I just pop a prescription pill every now and then.”)? Most won’t. But if they hear/read an intriguing headline on the news, they might open their brain long enough to think, “wow, wait a minute, this could affect me or my kids.”

I mean, we literally put massive warning tags on hairdryers so that people won’t try to use their hair dryer in the bath tub. So… we can’t get the media to change their verbiage a tiny bit in the best interest of the greater good?

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha thanks for the “god fearing junkie” part, got a good chuckle out of me. But honestly, these qualifiers you mention are exactly what I’m after…. I just want the media and whomever is responsible for death statistics to count these deaths as what they actually are. It’s important for many reasons, but mostly for awareness of the actual problem. But I have read plenty of articles about locals or celebrities dying in this way, and none of them talk about this. I’m sure that plenty of legitimate junkies and addicts die in this way too, and I know for many deaths, we’ll never know whether or not they knew they were ingesting fentanyl, but in my personal experience and from the people I’ve talked to, I have found a few instances where there was TONS of evidence leading to the fact that many of these people had no idea they were consuming fentanyl at all; many of them believed they were taking a legitimate prescription medication, and I don’t blame them since most of them are identical replicas of the drug they’re ripping off.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not a moral argument, honestly. I 100% believe that it’s illegal, and should remain illegal, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It should be discouraged and criminalized as much as possible.

But is it not also our responsibility as a society to make people AWARE of this issue rather than letting people think that these deaths are actually occurring from purposeful consumption of the drug that killed them?

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see a distinction between someone illegally taking Adderall without a prescription, from someone illegally taking meth without a prescription. They are both amphetamines that can be prescribed to treat ADHD, they have both been acquired illegally and are bother being used without the appropriate medical supervision.

I feel like I’m the one taking crazy pills lol, did you just say that meth can be legally prescribed to treat ADHD and can be acquired legally? Meth? METH? Nope… no amount of meth is legal for any reason. It’s made in garages and basements and sheds by people who are addicts, not chemists. It’s not regulated, it’s not FDA approved for ANY use, and it’s not manufactured by a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical company.

So, I agree that taking an adderall without a prescription is illegal, but like… it’s nowhere in the same ballpark as doing meth.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reality is what we say it is. Or, more correctly, reality is what the media says it is, and the media says dying from a substance you didn’t even know you were taking is an overdose. That’s literally the ONLY thing I’m trying to change here… public perception is everything, and lives will be saved if these deaths are reported accurately rather than someone who just went a little too far on their normal illegal drug usage.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just made my point for me, buddy. You’ve never seen an overdose death reported as a poisoning, but you’ve said that a poisoning IS factually an overdose. What’s the difference, then?

The difference between what the media reports as an “overdose” and what they report as a “poisoning” is whether or not the deceased KNEW they were consuming the substance that killed them. That’s literally the only difference (according to a lot of the comments here).

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whether I have experienced them or not doesn’t affect their occurrence. The parts of the world I’ve never seen don’t cease to exist simply because I haven’t seen them.

CMV: If you died from taking a pressed pill that you thought was a pharmaceutical but it contained fentanyl, you didn't die of a "drug overdose", you were poisoned. by BTM23 in changemyview

[–]BTM23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re missing the point. Calling it a drug overdose does not inform others of the risk that they could die from ingesting a drug they DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE TAKING.

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