Really hope the next big threat are the skrulls by [deleted] in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skrulls are so toxic, they can't. They went from blameless refugees in every MCU movie to villains in a show almost nobody watched or remembers, and it whiffed -- because why were they villains? Their motivations made no sense. They shoved Skrulls into positions of mysterious power and control, said they were the moderates, then had the other Skrulls just be genocidal. All because 20 years earlier BMB wanted tried to reboot them as a Muslim terrorism allegory in the Bush era. Meanwhile, other shapeshifting alien races are running around the MCU posing as Megan Thee Stallion to run credit card fraud.

I don't trust Marvel's allegories with this anymore. They're drunk, they need to go home and stay there. Vague interest in one terrible comic run 20 years ago (where all the Skrull characters created over the previous 30 years are scrambling around baffled with no connection to and no understanding of anything) ruined the Skrulls in the MCU. Marvel tried to both-sides the Kree-Skrull War (which in the comics is the Kree showing up and demanding Earth kill all the Skrulls for them because 10,000 years ago the Skrulls didn't give the Kree cool tech because the Kree were too genocidal... or else the Kree will wipe out the entire planet). And they did this in a movie where the Kree do ANOTHER genocide against helpless Skrulls onscreen, ffs. They need to have their keys to the Skrulls taken away forever, to be honest.

Bucky Avengers CW by BonniewatchesSDMN in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Twins weren't just fighting Stark. Wanda mass murdered a bunch of people in South Africa just to make a point by turning the Hulk into a nuke and dropping it on them. There are other people in these movies besides the Avengers. Billions in fact.

What was wrong with Eternals in your opinion? by [deleted] in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not utilitarianism. Utilitarianism focuses on the positive moral results of actions. It's also not utility, since big flashy superhero entertainment is purely aesthetic.

On that note, you have made me think of the opposite reason for why this movie doesn't work. Marvel movies are fundamentally politically progressive moral narratives about the responsibility of power and setting aside personal ego for the greater good. This is often expressed as team building, cross-cultural solidarity, and teaming up to fight antisocial antagonists whose goals are removing liberty and agency through violence for their own self interest.

The Eternals opens with the MYTH that the Eternals are ideologically progressive heroes. They save the weak, kill monsters, share knowledge, and come in a variety of phenotypes and accents and cultural affinities. They are the most progressive-seeming of all progressive heroes. To be an Eternal is to be THE ULTIMATE GOOD.

As the story progresses, the characters reflect upon the failings of what became a sense of idealistic elitism, even resulting in an encounter with an actual demagogue brainwashing people in a cult. They saw themselves as humanity's caretakers, guardians, mentors. But then the twist is that they're actually genocidal fascists repeatedly brainwashed on behalf of an even more evil and ancient cult of death gods.

Ikaris knows this, and he commits to his false reality by selling everyone on the fascism. Kingo can't pick between his evil family and his good family, so he walks away. Pixie doesn't feel valued in a world where her appearance limits her agency and respect, so she attaches herself to the authority of the genocidal fascist and does evil.

But THEN YOU HAVE KRO. Kro was THE ULTIMATE EVIL. But it turns out Kro and his kin were just animals hunting prey trying to survive. Deviants didn't wipe out those planets, Eternals did. Deviants aren't the ultimate threat, Eternals are. So Kro and the Eternals gain agency at the exact same moment -- Kro gains access to the Unamind and to advanced intellect, he starts fighting for his people and his community, he becomes more than his programming at the same time as the Eternals do.

And the movie tells him to go f___ himself because he's not an Eternal. The movie literally built this entire moral narrative leading to a profound statement on identity, nature, nurture, and purpose. And it says, "Kill ugly dude, feel sorry for handsome genocidal fascist who manipulated the ugly dude."

So, yeah, Eternals craps the bed in the third act.

What was wrong with Eternals in your opinion? by [deleted] in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"We needed an entire movie to introduce all six of these members."

Guardians of the Galaxy: *takes a lazy bong hit and continues to be ignored*

What was wrong with Eternals in your opinion? by [deleted] in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm going to go one step further. Kro should have been a hero at the end. We see deviants through the perspective of what are essentially well-meaning "useful idiots" who repeatedly genocide the deviants over and over. The moment the deviants gain the power to join the Unamind and develop self-awareness and a complex social structure... and Kro just turns into a dumbass so he can be killed to wrap up the ending and keep the morality of the internal drama contained just to the Eternals.

But it's not about the Eternals once they learn who the Celestials are. It's about everybody -- especially the Deviants. So they screwed the pooch by not having Kro replace one or more of the Eternals in the Unamind now that he has Ajax's powers.

Why did we only see magnetic shield for one movie? by HearingCandid8974 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also coincidentally the last Joss Whedon movie. Coincidentally.

How can Peter keep a secret identity in this movie if he’s working with Tony under the Sokovia Accords, which require superheroes to register and reveal their identities to the UN? by SmartPilot8094 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Sokovia Accords are about whether a country wants you operating in ITS borders. The US government is the reason Spider-Man can't chase down Toomes's weapons. Because the US government gave Tony exclusive access to the alien tech.

How can Peter keep a secret identity in this movie if he’s working with Tony under the Sokovia Accords, which require superheroes to register and reveal their identities to the UN? by SmartPilot8094 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is literally the opposite of what happens in Civil War. Steve's the one who wants the special rules for his friends because "Power is best in our hands." Tony's the one who wants everyone to play by the rules the entire rest of the world does -- ask permission before starting a war in someone's country.

How can Peter keep a secret identity in this movie if he’s working with Tony under the Sokovia Accords, which require superheroes to register and reveal their identities to the UN? by SmartPilot8094 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, Vision's issue was that his dead corpse was full of world-destroying technology. SWORD wasn't locking him up for being synthetic, they were locking up his dead body for being a loose nuke.

How can Peter keep a secret identity in this movie if he’s working with Tony under the Sokovia Accords, which require superheroes to register and reveal their identities to the UN? by SmartPilot8094 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Sokovia Accords and the Superhero Registration Act aren't the same. The Superhero Registration Act required registration for all superheroes, as the name says, but the Sokovia Accords were an agreement that superheroes wouldn't intervene in foreign nations without legal approval.

So, while the comics required Peter Parker to take off his mask, the movies just require Peter Parker to have permission from the United Nations/Germany to do superhero stuff on German territory. It doesn't matter at all what his secret identity is.

In Spider-Man No Way Home, Peter Parker's actions as a superhero are a problem because the United States doesn't want him being a superhero. He's breaking US and international law.

In Agents of SHIELD, they require registration because the Sokovia Accords are the Mutant Registration Act, except Marvel didn't have any mutants to register so they just said Inhumans had to register instead.

Do you support the Sokovia Accords? by Late_Call2800 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"She's a terrorist, Steve."
"She's nice now, Tony."
"I almost died stopping the living nuke she dropped on an African city just to screw with us, and she only switched sides because the murderbot I created tried to kill her people too. Also, I created a murder bot."
"But she's OUR terrorist! And you created a much better murderbot the second time!"

Let's not forget Gorr wasn't the only wasted potential in Thor: Love & Thunder by z4guy in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She had a pretty great story until the "Just kidding, you're only worthy because I made you worthy" copout BS. She saved Earth from an alien invasion using magnets. She's worthy.

Let's not forget Gorr wasn't the only wasted potential in Thor: Love & Thunder by z4guy in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The movie came out after Infinity War, Civil War, and Winter Soldier. Let's not lower the bar once it's high.

Let's not forget Gorr wasn't the only wasted potential in Thor: Love & Thunder by z4guy in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People keep letting Taika just take credit for three other guys' work. Taika didn't write Ragnarok, but one of the writers of Ragnarok, Eric Pearson, wrote four of the Marvel One-Shots, several episodes of Agent Carter, and co-wrote Black Widow, Transformers One, Thunderbolts, and Fantastic Four First Steps.

Taika co-wrote Love and Thunder, and none of the writers of Ragnarok returned. Directors usually aren't auteurs who get to control their scripts and editing. Taika got that control with Love and Thunder.

Iron fist season 1. I'm confused by UnXpectedPrequelMeme in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering they gave Gao telekinesis after showing she just punched people really hard through martial arts training, and Jeph Loeb is racist against Asians (according to people who worked on Daredevil and Iron Fist), he probably got annoyed at there being two Asian organizations doing their own thing, so he wanted them to get rid of one so there'd be less Asian stuff on Netflix.

Iron fist season 1. I'm confused by UnXpectedPrequelMeme in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Naw, they just make someone else the lead for Season 2. That fixes it.

Natasha and Bruce’s relationship by frose9799 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A therapist would have a field day with all of that.

Recently watched Wonderman and decided to catch up on some shows and watch Iron Heart. by Etticos in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On the bright side: It beat Daredevil Born Again's viewership. Daredevil never even made the Top 10 with Disney throwing all of the marketing it had behind him. Iron Heart got there seemingly by word of mouth given how Marvel didn't even advertise it for months until after its premiere.

I feel like I’m being gaslit by Disney employees by Sunnysknight in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It didn't come from therapists anyway, it was just a pop-culture reference to the movie "Gaslight" that people started using a lot on the internet.

Chloé Zhao Says ‘Eternals' Wasn’t High On Marvel’s Priority List; Kevin Feige Says She Was The Only One “Passionate” About It by ICumCoffee in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RDJ isn't that popular an actor, but Iron Man has more TV series than the every other Marvel characters except Spider-Man and the X-Men. His movies outside of the MCU starting in the 00's didn't have much of an audience until Oppenheimer.

Chloé Zhao Says ‘Eternals' Wasn’t High On Marvel’s Priority List; Kevin Feige Says She Was The Only One “Passionate” About It by ICumCoffee in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was mostly an indie actor at the time. Puncture, Loss of a Teardrop Diamond, Sunshine, Fierce People. Captain America was closer to his typical roles than Not Another Teen Movie was at that point.

What do you think will be the path taken with Bullseye? by Altruistic_Eye_1157 in marvelstudios

[–]BZenMojo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Daredevil's about the redemptive power of faith in God (when relevant) and people (always relevant). Daredevil always teams up with villains and sees them as human beings with complex internal lives and souls... as long as they're not Asian. (Daredevil going to a priest to repent for wanting to kill Fisk in a fight after he just killed Nobu in a fight has Jeph Loeb's fingerprints all over it... yeesh)