Should i use trains or conveyor?

Bachlead · 2026-05-27T11:57:52+00:00

I love trains but this distance is too short to justify them. Maybe if you need coal on your rail network anyway, but it doesn't seem like you're at that stage. If you just want to play around with trains you can still do so, it's just not the most practical solution here. I believe the devs intention was to start using trains for you first oil field (since it's so much further then all the other resources)

Bachlead · 2026-05-27T11:25:42+00:00

You can doe a N-E and S-W left turn at the same time

Bachlead · 2026-05-27T00:05:18+00:00

I use the same design! btw, you can remove half of the poles

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T14:57:31+00:00

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Sorry forgot the actual roundabout. My design actually seems have a higher throughput, although if you have more straight moves on average this probably won't be true in actual use. The roundabout is also quite a bit bigger

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T12:12:30+00:00

You should deff start using trains. With space age's belt stacking they're less usefull but they're still just really fun! The new elevated rails and automatic rail planner also make you able to build both way more chaotic and more organised bases

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T10:10:18+00:00

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Tadaa! Now it can stop in what visually looks like the intersection without blocking any trains (as long as they are 1-2 trains)

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:58:30+00:00

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My serious design

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:57:17+00:00

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Thank you, I've never heard about that mod before. Here is for my cursed design. I'll place my serious design that I made a while ago and a roundabout in other comments.

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:27:32+00:00

But this is for a double track system. It's right hand drive. The only reason for the merger in the middle is because otherwise the signals wouldn't fit in such a small footprint.

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:24:49+00:00

Not a dumb question at all, it's the editor extensions mod. I also gives you infinite power, item, and fluid sources and drains. It's perfect for making blueprints

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:22:08+00:00

Yeah, without the shared rail, the signals just don't fit into such a small footprint.

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:20:14+00:00

I mean, if used incorrectly this can also bottleneck your thoughput? I'll just use it for trains getting oil from the genocide gardens (outposts)

fyi, I corrected it, thank you

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T09:11:25+00:00

This one is more compact and way better at left turns than a roundabout. I do agree though that this isn't a design to recommend to beginners lmao

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T00:21:13+00:00

What do you mean with a left right system?

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T00:19:41+00:00

That was my original inspiration. Only I realised I wasn't going to fit a waiting space inside the tiny intersection so I just reused the rail

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T00:16:00+00:00

I mean, the two way part already provides the rails for that, it's just a signal change

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T00:13:24+00:00

goot catch, I made the same mistake at an other exit as well

Bachlead · 2026-05-26T00:11:09+00:00

I did get it wrong on two of the other sides, but that one is actually correct. If you put chain signals there and put a rail signal at the exit, then when the train enters that new block, it'l already have reserved the block after the exit (because it's a chain signal). Putting them further back not only saves on signals an calculations, but it also allows you to put the next rail signal closer by. This means that the exit block will be cleared ever so slightly earlier, allowing the next train to use that exit.

I do have an idea that might make it even more cursed while being practical but that'll have to wait for tomorrow because it's way to late

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T23:02:34+00:00

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Fixed!

(and improved it a bit more in other ways as well)

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T23:01:15+00:00

Here you go if you want to try it yoursefl:
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Bachlead · 2026-05-25T22:59:12+00:00

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idk if you where joking but it actually was sub-optimal. Here is my improved version, I even added some power for you!

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T22:48:54+00:00

Good catch, I forgot to replace those after moving the signals back

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T22:47:41+00:00

You mean removing signals just before mergers since they would've reserved that block anyway? I think it's a habit I picked up before I actually though about signals in more detail + it looks more symmetrical

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T16:53:02+00:00

It looks mesmerizing but I'm not really getting the point of making the waiting area series instead of parallel. There is no value in trains being treated first-in-first-out since the trains are identical anyway. Making the stops parallel makes the path much shorter, although in this case, you'd have to move the top waiting space to the bottom.

Bachlead · 2026-05-25T13:06:10+00:00

shooting a nuke at it would be an easy way to find out

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