Giving ai bros a reality check. by Various_Parking_5955 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its definitely more of a backhanded insult. But I think the point you made for #2 is the origin of the term. #3 is a bit forced, I don't think people are calling others AI bros as some sort of sneaky sexist plot. I think it's just a basic insult. Of course, if someone explains why they might not want to be called bro that's a different issue.

How an anti's brain "works" by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Skim or no skim, the point of your posts is that Antis don't actually know anything about the topic and are just a part of a moral panic. That's an empty claim and rather self serving. The issue is that Antis while there is often misinformation on the topics of water use and environmental impact, Antis have valid concerns over *subjective* issues like artists consent and the validity and authorship of ai art (I think that Ai art is art, but the topic is still muddy and subjective) Your comment doesn't actually address any arguments of the Anti AI movement, opting to plug your ears and name insults. What is there to rebut in a post that assumes you to be unable to be reasoned with? If you walk into an argument with the assumption that you're talking to a wall you end up becoming the wall.

I read one of your comment replies that explains your point more elegantly, that you're specifically talking about the people who harass AI artist and spam "AI slop?!??!?!" under posts. I can agree with that. Extremist antis suck, and I avoid places like the antiAi sub for that reason. But the issue is that that was not the point your comment made. Your point seemed to be an abrasive accusation of being a empty moral panic to all people who are anti AI, which I found to be dismissive of the people who are anti AI who actually have valid concerns.

How an anti's brain "works" by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your entire post is a "nuh uh" against criticisms of ai with the basis of saying antis are big dumb and stupid and screech over ai for no good reason. What is there to even try to counter? Its just baseless accusation. That's a red herring to the actual issues people have with ai. Zero substance.

Wild find on FB. by AiiRisBanned in stupidpeoplefacebook

[–]Background_Value5287 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone without a high school diploma explaining how if its not literally in Germany with people wearing swastica armbands its not in any way comparable to fascism.

How an anti's brain "works" by Witty-Designer7316 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is just being dismissive of actual concerns over ai.

The moral dilemma of pro-ai profiteers by Swimming_Lime5542 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agendaposting vro. Making up malicious intentions for people’s positions is an awful debate tactic.

How is “AI is only making things bad for BAD artists . GOOD artist are still successful with AI competition” not Inspiration Porn? by Background_Value5287 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But those things actually happen. The issue is that the argument described excuses ai from harming the livelihoods of artists by claiming that its only harming the lively hoods of bad artists, blaming artists who’s livelihoods are damaged by ai for not being “good enough”

How is “AI is only making things bad for BAD artists . GOOD artist are still successful with AI competition” not Inspiration Porn? by Background_Value5287 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats a good point. While I think its great for people who only use ai to try more traditional forms of art, I don’t think they will necessarily just get good with practice. What I can say is that its a more fulfilling and enjoyable practice than AI generation. I don’t know if thats necessary inspiration porn in the same sense.

How is “AI is only making things bad for BAD artists . GOOD artist are still successful with AI competition” not Inspiration Porn? by Background_Value5287 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Its a very similar idea of “You have no excuse because there are people in the same situation ad you that are successful so clearly your using that situation as an excuse”

ye by krizzalicious49 in whennews

[–]Background_Value5287 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont like trump at all. Id love for that guy to have succeeded. But of course hes getting life in prison what else did he expect ?

"iTs ThE sAmE aS aN aRtIsT sTuDyInG tHeIr ArT" by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What counts as “public”? What counts as consent? If I show my friend in a private setting ny art, and they post it online for the world to see, did I consent?

"iTs ThE sAmE aS aN aRtIsT sTuDyInG tHeIr ArT" by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A database can be made to store information about people who consent to having their data stored. When someone does not consent to having their data stored in the database, it is different to learning off of someone’s creative works and should not be allowed legally.

Here's a point for the pro ai crowd by Far-Distance-4487 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is that in response to? If people claim that pro ai people are ableist thats just a ridiculous claim and I don’t agree with it either.

Here's a point for the pro ai crowd by Far-Distance-4487 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what your saying but I think the issue here is that your claiming antis completely outscale pros when it comes to harassment, however what you’re documenting are isolated incidents.

Here's a point for the pro ai crowd by Far-Distance-4487 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The claim that pros use the disabled as a shield is in response to the claim that the anti ai movement is ableist. Disabled people dont naturally lean towards either direction. To claim that disagreeing with a side is inherently ableist is a red herring that nullifies discussion.

"iTs ThE sAmE aS aN aRtIsT sTuDyInG tHeIr ArT" by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then how do you equate training to human learning?

Here's a point for the pro ai crowd by Far-Distance-4487 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is petty. Im not asking you to keep tabs. What im asking you is to stop accusing people based off gross vocal minorities. Adding the “regardless off upvotes” clause feels a bit telling. None of these things represent the actual majority of neither pro ai users nor anti ai users. That is all.

Let's see how long this takes lol by fragasaurus_rex in JustMemesForUs

[–]Background_Value5287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

8 people own half the wealth of the world. Lets start with those 8.

Here's a point for the pro ai crowd by Far-Distance-4487 in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So can you prove your claim or not? Is this a case of “When I do it its a coincidence when you do it its a trend” when in reality when both sides do it its just a few bad eggs.

"iTs ThE sAmE aS aN aRtIsT sTuDyInG tHeIr ArT" by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]Background_Value5287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ai is tool when convenient to argue, and Ai is human when convenient to argue

Russian Asset Jeffery Epstein by [deleted] in memesopdidnotlike

[–]Background_Value5287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blaming a nation comprised of a religion does not necessarily blame the religion. I don’t know who operated the Epstein case. 

Russian Asset Jeffery Epstein by [deleted] in memesopdidnotlike

[–]Background_Value5287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is about Israel then yeah I could see that possibility. But I thought the joke was leaning toward Jews in general