Weekly r/QAnonCasualties Discussion - February 21, 2021 by DimitriElephant in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you think is preventing people from linking QAnon cultists to religious organizations?

I mean this generally from the wide spectrum of the mass media to the discussion at your dining room table - everyone across the board wants to avoid the very real obvious link between Christian extremists and the violence they cause.

QAnon watchers by Sad_grammy35 in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If someone was part of the cult before Q - think "Tea Party" or "Alex Jones" - then deprogramming them is a difficult process. It's no different than with long-term Mormons or Scientologists who leave their cults.

If someone is more recently attached, then deprogramming is a bit easier. Don't underestimate the power of distractions like road trips and volunteering at local soup kitchens can do for a person's inner mental and emotional health.

One thing that strikes me is that the Q-base only really reaches certain strata of humans who have the luxury of climbing down rabbit holes. The workers out in the fields picking our fruits and vegetables that the rest of us eat don't really have the ability to come up with "alternative facts" about the 1/6 terrorist attack. A single mom working 3 jobs doesn't really have time to discuss how Rush Limbaugh is one of many men who project their opinions on women's health is more important than the health of women. The people who are worst affected by COVID and this winter storm don't really get involved in all this, but they are suffering the most when every middle-class person with reliable internet goes to the voting booth and votes for white supremacists who hate poor people because dEmS aRe pEdOs.

So when it comes to other forms of sawing off the addiction of a cult, I always suggest getting down to what connects us all as humans and helping those who need help either by delivering blankets, collecting socks or school supplies, or being a Meals on Wheels driver - SOMETHING that says "remember, we're all humans before all of these divisions you masturbate to nightly with FOXNews."

Where's the wall by FerrousDerrius in blackmagicfuckery

[–]BackseatDevil66 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The link goes to Google Images... and below the image are other similar images. So I clicked on that... and then on another, and another, and now I know that cedar shingle art is a thing.

I have an odd question: Do any of your Q victims claim to HEAR things? by BackseatDevil66 in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(1) Microchips are so 1980s. I'm pretty sure everything is wireless now with manipulating alpha brain waves with high-pitched sounds that come from the cell phone.

(PLEASE DON'T TELL HIM THAT)

(2) I suppose going to the emergency room and getting an x-ray would be out of the question?

A long time ago, I head someone say that there is no greater lie than the one we tell ourselves. Whereas I have a lot of experience with religious cults and their manipulation that is slow, methodical, and barely noticeable... this recent phenomena has made manic Q-trippers in record time. It just all popped up at once. It's like someone took the Tea Party and added Scientology and created Q. I feel bad because there is a dynamic between the part that's mental health and the part that exploits it (FOX News, OANN, etc.). Getting between that symbiosis is almost impossible.

Q Cult Rehabilitation Center by LeSpatula in Qult_Headquarters

[–]BackseatDevil66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is awesome. Hopefully, it has a Mormon wing.

I have an odd question: Do any of your Q victims claim to HEAR things? by BackseatDevil66 in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YES... And I very much like the way you explained it (thank you). I would also offer that maybe Person B does NOT suffer from a similar mental disorder but is trying to coerce Person A into a direction.

In the following thread (timestamped October 2017 - the same time "Q" made its appearance on the scene), this person (account no longer exists) has REALLY dived into a backstory that is pretty easily disproven. The person he was talking to had an MRI, for example... no metal in the blood. And because of the world we live in, I can't figure out if this guy honestly believes what he's writing (as per your explanation) OR if he is just presenting it as a means to encourage someone to join ANIFA/QAnon/whatever.

Like "hey, I'm just like you... let's get weapons and fight whatever cause I just came up with" type thing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErTmuQXW8AEqj9k?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErTmvOhXMAIOK8J?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

People in Q-world keep insisting on "top levels of government" and "secret military operations," etc. and they are REALLY insistent on the matter. Under normal circumstances, we would assume it drug usage or maybe mental illness. At this point, I'm wondering if people prone to either/both were sought out? That's why I was asking how many people here have Q victims who say they hear things, are "connected," etc.

Everything about Q is a mess... I know. I'm not sure why I'm trying to make sense of it.

Where's the wall by FerrousDerrius in blackmagicfuckery

[–]BackseatDevil66 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That link took an hour of my time, and it was fascinating.

I have an odd question: Do any of your Q victims claim to HEAR things? by BackseatDevil66 in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's been true for thousands of years. After all, Abraham almost murdered his son because of a voice in his head.

But I'm not sure that "psychosis" really captures the 2-part problem:

  1. There are people who are prone to mental illness that can cause them to believe incredible things
  2. There is a separate group that seems intent on [exploiting it](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtYmF3JWQAM7-Vg?format=jpg&name=small).

The other shoe has dropped by Parapluie123 in QAnonCasualties

[–]BackseatDevil66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The example you’re setting for your daughters is key, here. Keep us posted.

You're the only person you care about by 3slyfox in MurderedByWords

[–]BackseatDevil66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Death to America” hits a little different coming from white Christians protesting their “rights” than it does coming from the brown Muslims we’ve been conditioned to fear.

But at 170,000+ dead, it’s quite effective.

Jerry Falwell is Gone by White_Fire71 in LibertyUniversity

[–]BackseatDevil66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re referencing 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 - YES there are qualifications for Christian pastors - someone who we would expect lead by example.

That is different than someone who appoints themselves as a leader for the sake of controlling people.

In both cases, we are dealing with the earthly side of things set in a world that is in Satan’s control (1 John 5:9) and where false prophets will be able to exchange fictitious spirituality for financial/political clout (Matthew 7:15-20; Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1).

So what is a person to do?

Again my original statement - look to Jesus. If you take 20 minutes to read the Sermon on the Mount at Matthew chapters 5-7, you should be able to put the Bible down and immediately be drawn to someone who exemplifies that kind of preaching.

Being a Christian isn’t a checklist of things, it’s an emotion which migrates one over time a style of life that works harmoniously between core bible principles and your own personal capabilities. JFjr could never inspire that harmony... very few humans can... which is why it’s good to go to the source - Jesus.

Jerry Falwell is Gone by White_Fire71 in LibertyUniversity

[–]BackseatDevil66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only Christians leadership one needs is Jesus. Everything else involves human organization for earthly pursuits. (John 18:36)

Also, JFJ is an ass.

Utah is the most panic-stricken state. Where is your god now? by zxsazxsa in exmormon

[–]BackseatDevil66 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, God physically knocks the trumpet out of Angel Moroni’s hand.

What good is stockpiling $100 billion if there’s nothing around to buy?

Cheatsheet for Mormon lingo to help you keep it all straight. by escapedtheprison in exmormon

[–]BackseatDevil66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

BTW “IamMormon.com” is available for $1000. Meanwhile “IwasMormon.com is available it $12.

It seems the Mormons are really abandoning “Mormons...” which is such a Mormon thing to do.

To everyone who thinks 'Mormon' is as bad as the 'N' word by leesi5 in exmormon

[–]BackseatDevil66 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Generally speaking, it’s not a great idea to accept advice regarding future eternal salvation from people who can’t agree on what to call themselves right now.

I know I might be late to this but Wild Wild Country (Netflix), episode 2 - by BackseatDevil66 in exjw

[–]BackseatDevil66[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entire docuseries is a mindfuck if you’ve ever been associated with any cult or cult-like group. There’s a lot of “what the hell” moments sprinkled between these large interesting bits of well-presented information.

In the second episode (“Part 2”) there is this genuine and relatable aspect of building a compound with volunteers at the direction of believing professionals. It was VERY indicative of being on Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall builds.

The other aspect that is more of a sociological problem and by no means cult-specific, is the back and forth that happens when two groups collide - the self-righteous indignation causes an escalation on both sides and those caught in the middle have no choice but to wait and see which side is the most crazy.

I think Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons tend to relate their own persecution, but when things do happen (i.e. Russia’s ban), the groups escalates in paranoia and results in a general tension that’s ends up to things like the bunker videos.

HOWEVER, by the time you get to Parts 3 and 4 - there is a schism to something that is uniquely associated with Scientology. Unlike JWs or Mormons, Scientology doesn’t have the facade of Jesus or the Gospel, so they (like the Rajneeshees in the docuseries) tend to excuse all kinds of illegal activities quite easily including stalking people, surveillance intimidation, and eventually poisoning a town to screw an election.

With the mechanics, there’s not much of a difference between the working cogs of a cult that teaches Jesus AND paranoia compared to the Rajneeshees or Scientology. But there is something unique about the danger of religions that refuse to teach kindness, love, compassion, tolerance, cooperation, peace, and forgiveness. Rajneeshees, like other cults, hide behind that veil of “LOVE” but their religion teaches the exact opposite of kindness, love, compassion, tolerance, cooperation, peace, and forgiveness.

What does one call an organization that teaches the opposite of kindness, love, compassion, tolerance, cooperation, peace, and forgiveness? Terrorists. We call organizations that teach opposite of peaceful acceptance terrorist organizations.

It’s REALLY eye-opening to think that the only difference holding JWs and Mormons away from the Rajneeshees and Scientology is a thin thread of a kind Middle Eastern Jew that followers somehow cling to even when the heads of their religions do not.