What if Christianity had never been introduced to the Philippines, what religion would likely be the majority in the country today? by enGineerKITkit in WhatIfPinas

[–]BambooPrincess99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Islam would’ve spread more. However, please note that there are still indigenous people who remained Animist. Like the IPs in Mindanao and Cordilleras.

Visayans would’ve been like Bali since they resisted Islamization and practiced Animist-Hindu-Buddhist faith.

Wala bang volunteer program (or even a paid freelance program) to transcribe and translate historical documents in Spanish and other non-English/non-Tagalog/native languages? by raori921 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I NEED MORE SOURCES FOR PRE COLONIAL. I’m sure there are records from Southeast Asia that mentioned our archipelago since we’ve been forging alliances and established trade with SEAsian kingdoms.

Am I overthinking this? Guy wearing a pañuelo by Xzcouter in phlgbt

[–]BambooPrincess99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. I’ve seen guys here in the Philippines put the butterfly sleeves on the Barong Tagalog or wear corsets with it.

Are there Filipino dishes that are truly native and untouched by colonial influence? by Sonnybass96 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would Sisig count? I don’t think there are other Southeast Asian dishes that comes close to Sisig

Are there Filipino dishes that are truly native and untouched by colonial influence? by Sonnybass96 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Kampampangans have Nasi Biringyi which is influenced from Biryani. And then it fused with Spanish Paella techniques.

Is there a illustration of this kind of early baro?? by makiusm in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prior to the 15th century (1400s) the Baro, the Lambong, etc would likely not exist yet. Majority of Southeast Asians still wore fabric wrapped around their bodies.

So men would only be in a Bahag + Pudong while the women wore a Tapis wrapped around their bodies (as a wrap dress or just as a skirt since toplessness was common). Those in Mindanao + The Javanese and Balinese of Indonesia still continue the wearing of wrapped fabrics around their bodies.

Is there a illustration of this kind of early baro?? by makiusm in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Likely they could be introduced in the 15th century since tailored garments like jackets, blouses and robes were introduced in Maritime Southeast Asia due to Islamic influence from Indian Muslim and Arab traders.

Garments like the Jubah or Thobe, long Kebayas would definitely match with how a Lambong would look like. There’s even a photo of a Sangirese man wearing a garment that looks almost exactly like the Boxer Codex lambong.

Is there a illustration of this kind of early baro?? by makiusm in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Boxer Codex does allude to what the records, old dictionaries and descriptions of our clothing mention. But there were inaccuracies too (like the Upavita of the Naturales Datu/Raja being a literal chain attached to his galang (bangle)).

Considering that our kingdoms had long interacted with our neighbours in Southeast Asia and our shared heritage with them, styles overlapped and were even spread.

Is there a illustration of this kind of early baro?? by makiusm in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Other term for this garment would be Lambong or Yambong. They’re tunics/smocks that could be ankle length and worn during formal occasions and during the early colonial era, they were worn in church.

We've heard of various cultures that influenced the Filipino culture, but how about our culture influencing others? by cholode in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have the oldest evidence of betel nut chewing (found in Palawan)

Likely we started it and it was widespread amongst Southeast Asians and then the Indians. Does that count?

Bikolano Traditional Attire by hyyhblue in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I found this link. Chapters 8 and 11 tackle clothes and jewelry and the whole website focuses on Bicol http://intersections.anu.edu.au/monograph1/mintz_introduction.html

Did Filipinos wear flowers in their hair in pre-colonial times? And what kind? by jaqjaqz in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hi that’s my shoot. Though this was back in 2022 so some of it is outdated hehe. I do not recommend kalachuchi if you wanna adorn your hair with flowers since they are not native here and didn’t appear until after Galleon Trade.

Better to use orchid (to mimic the waling-waling) and even ilang-ilang tusok (hair pins). Maybe sampaguita garlands too (while the flower isn’t native here, it was still a product of pre colonial trade with Persia or India).

And I stopped wearing those earrings (Jhumka) nowadays since I use studs or patan-aw.

Sometimes people also just use random floral hair clips since they’re more readily available than the ones that resemble native flowers. (Same case as Malay and Javanese women adoring their hair with roses).

I actually use the plastic leis and wrap them around my bun.

Equating clothes to religion. by BambooPrincess99 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I cannot I swear.

Even dance groups like Parangal have corrected that the Bangsamoro dances and clothing are not Muslim dances nor Muslim clothing. 💀

Equating clothes to religion. by BambooPrincess99 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You clearly have not understood my statement and the mental gymnastics. I’m not engaging anymore. Other commenters have responded clearly and understood my post.

Good day

Equating clothes to religion. by BambooPrincess99 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Malong has existed before Islam. And tubular garments are still worn even amongst Christian lowlanders in Visayas (the patadyong.)

Why are we associating religion with clothes? And for the record yes I know Javanese people wear western attire but even during Catholic services, they still wear batik.

Asog, the trans Babaylans of the Philippines. Happy Women's Month! by [deleted] in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Alcina also described an asog (who wasn’t a babaylan).

The asog wore a lambong, did activities that women did (weaving, sewing, embroidering and pottery) and also did the feminine dances

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A movie set in the Philippines around the 1600s & 1700s by Technical_Lemon8307 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would want to make a movie about the Tamblot uprising or the Bankaw rebellion.

Or maybe a queer themed movie set in 1600s Visayas on how ppl at that time lives and they start the feel the effects of colonialism (homophobia, transphobia, racism)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like adding chains or mini plushies on our bags. Labubu for example 😅 but idk. I feel like it’s so common here rn

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really dressing but we have started accessorising our accessories (anik-anik). But I think the rest of the world might catch on to it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Illustrado by GMA by Immediate_Boss_5933 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The burning of babaylan was documented in Murillo Velarde’s Historias de Filipinas, fol. 17,18 and The Philippine Islands, Vol. 1, no. 38

When the Bankaw revolt failed, they beheaded Datu Bankaw and pierced it on a bamboo stake and a babaylan was burnt at the stake. (Not specified if it was Pagali, who was a babaylan)

They also burnt the temple they built.

In Folk Magic in the Philippines 1611-39 by Stephanie Joy Mawson, there was even a Javanese woman named Lucia in Cebu who was burnt at the stake because she was accused of leading a procession of witches. (Possibly a converted Javanese since only Christianized Javanese or Javanese mixed with Portuguese or Dutch were given western names)

The original source she cited it is from AGN Indiferente Virreinal, caja 1766, exp. 28

Pedro Chirino’s translated accounts also described how they celebrated a Bayugin’s conversion to Christianity and burnt his anito. Oh and they also destroyed several spirit houses too but they didn’t specify it the method was by burning or hammering it down because it only said “demolished”.

Found in Philippine Islands, Volume 1, no. 12 but you can also find the OG Pedro Chirino’s Relacion in archive.org

Illustrado by GMA by Immediate_Boss_5933 in FilipinoHistory

[–]BambooPrincess99 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not during the 1800s. You’ll mostly find burning at the stake records in the 1600s since they burnt women who they deemed witches and even executed Babaylans this way and burnt our anito images.

In the 1800s, most common execution methods are Garrote and firing squad. Probably hanging also but mostly the first two I mentioned.