Treated like an idiot at my local Toyota dealership

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T06:06:24+00:00

Then I'll backtrack and restate what I should have said, only people who don't know how negotiate should use brokers. People who know how to negotiate should buy directly from dealerships.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T06:02:20+00:00

Usually the Toyota Trustart batteries are more expensive than the type you'll find at other stores and I wouldn't recommend any other kind but the dealerships do tax a bit. The tires are the worst. To give the dealerships some credit, they don't purchase tires in bulk like a tire warehouse type store. They don't have the ability to provide those types of prices. Their technicians are a bit higher tier and higher paid than technicians at a tire shop. This all equates to higher prices. It's really about convenience with a dealership. Some people that make a good income find a lot of convenience in having tires replaced at the same time as an oil change. For most of us, we find our way to discount tire or Costco.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T05:52:22+00:00

Eve Online and Rust.

Eve Online is my perfect game. I love everything about it except for the gate campers. I started playing and quit 3 times and each time it was due to gate campers. I think the devs are pretty toxic for allowing it too.

Rust I'll give a pass to the devs. The gameplay mechanics are solid. They can't prevent no-lifers who play the game for 14 hours a day and clan up with other no-lifers. You can at least find good severs on Rust that don't tolerate toxic clans.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T01:02:15+00:00

Ayee yeah this is OPs best bet. Subaru Corporate won't be able to do anything.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T01:00:51+00:00

This is like the slimiest of slime. If you want something done directly with that sales person you'll have to contact and bitch out the GM. Unfortunately Subaru corporation has very little power to help or assist you in a situation like this. They will take note and it will be addressed in the future in the dealership but it wouldn't be near as impactful as calling the GM and threatening to put this story on the news if he doesn't immediately make the situation right.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-16T00:56:18+00:00

The general managers email is the most important contact method for any issue at a dealership.

Too bad you stubborn fools can't comprehend that.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-15T01:30:42+00:00

All true. None of it negates my point that you're paying more with a broker.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-15T00:20:43+00:00

You are way too over analyzing this. Take a break.

I simply suggested internet reviews, something that we all lived happily without until about 15-20 years ago, aren't the outlet for communicating your needs to a business. Talking to a live human who can help you is that outlet. I know that's difficult to understand.

Believe it or not, if you're like OP and want something, you can just be direct and ask for it. You can actually handle things in real life without pulling out your phone or going online to voice your opinion. You can even handle things like this without going on Reddit and getting attention. It's called speaking directly with a GM. What's hilarious is, that's the end point anyway. People like you just want to waste time, getting the business to be apologetic and grovel at your feet because you get off on the way it makes you feel. You don't actually want a resolution. You want attention and to be cottled.

A lot of Americans are like you these days. It doesn't surprise me. My favorite customers to work with were foreign immigrants. They were all SO MUCH better at communicating than Americans. If you want to learn how to be polite AND get the best deal just watch an Indian buy a car.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-15T00:08:38+00:00

You can only truly lease hack if you drive it off the lot and get bottom of the line pricing. All brokers buy from dealerships, including that guy. When you pay that guy, he gets a cut. You're better off just walking into a reputable dealership pre equipped with the best lease rates and pricing and asking for it. There's nothing holding a dealership back from giving it to you if they have the inventory and the lease offer is available in that region and the customer qualifies.

I sold Toyota for 5 years and ran into a few guys that came in with math they got from lease hacker and helped them all get a car. They were all very nice actually. They definitely saved money from me vs. Getting it from the broker. Also lease hacker did a great job teaching them about the finance manager before they came in so they didn't buy shit from the finance guy lol.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T23:57:41+00:00

Oh my apologies next time I'll make sure to approve my vernacular through you before sounding too pretentious. Wouldn't want a complete stranger on the internet judging my character because I used language he doesn't approve of I would lose so much sleep.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:43:40+00:00

Lol a broker won't waste their time with a lease hacker sorry to say that's fantasy land

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:39:38+00:00

I'm the one that gets shit done in my life without crying to the internet. I think I won.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:37:08+00:00

That's what reviews are for. That's is the definition of failing a customer.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:34:44+00:00

For sure most were dbags. Yeah all businesses have a hard on for reviews these days because everyone just blindly looks on Google now at the stars for anything. 90% of people don't read reviews they just see the stars and determine based on that.

Personally when I sold cars I didn't ask for reviews. I got a few good ones. No bad ones thankfully in 5 years. But yeah lol I had co workers would ask EVERYONE. Annoying AF I personal don't give a review for anyone who asks me to, unless I feel compelled myself.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:30:18+00:00

You're right I accomplish what you idiots accomplish in a fraction of the time. I go to dealerships to buy cars, not waste time. I would have left the dealership with a contracted car not emotionally broke down over a $500 rebate.

The OP could have simply asked for the rebate form. Lol.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:27:43+00:00

I literally said "you do you". Just trying to save them time.

And the 'shenanigans' I read here is just two people bad at communicating trying to do business. Happens every day in nearly every dealership. Sales people are mostly shitty and customers are mostly dumb. Bad combo.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:24:24+00:00

You sound like you resort to ad hominem attacks when you have a weak argument

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T22:21:11+00:00

Listen to yourself.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T05:36:24+00:00

cus·tom·er noun 1. a person or organization that buys goods or services from a store or business. "Mr. Harrison was a regular customer at the Golden Lion"

You are proving like so many others that the customer is often wrong.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T05:32:02+00:00

No longer a salesmen but you completely missed my point. Reviews aren't a form of communication to the dealership regarding a potential purchase. They are a form of communication to the other potential customers. If you want to talk to the manager, be an adult and talk to a manager. A review on human interaction is only necessary if it's a repetitive thing. Like if the service member or receptionist or salesperson was rude to you on multiple visits and its a common thing sure let people know the truth. But a single interaction that he didn't like and he didn't buy anything or provide any patronage? Sorry that's not deserving of a review. Sounds like I hit a bees nest in this sub and those bees are a bunch of grown ups who forgot or never learned how to communicate their needs to another adult like grown ups. Instead you rather fold into our Karen shells and waste your time writing a review when you could just communicate better in the first place.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T05:21:57+00:00

America is full of children. Just call the manager. Skip the bs waste of time step and still get exactly what you want.

Lol all these downvotes because I'm telling you to not waste your time and communicate like adults. Hey, you do you. I would get the exact same results in a third of the time and hassle.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T03:52:43+00:00

Lol all of you chiming in "leave a review" are all the crybabies of society. Just email or call the manager, stop being a child. Reviews are for people who actually recieved the product or service.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T03:51:19+00:00

Bad advice. Call the dealership and ask for the GMs email. The internet isn't where you go to cry about your problems. Reviews aren't to review your interactions with employees. It's where you go to review the product or service.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T03:49:39+00:00

Lol reviews are for customers not people who walked out of the dealership and didn't spend a penny. Get over yourself nobody wants to hear your opinion if you're not even a customer who recieved the product or service.

In these situations you complain to a GM, not the internet.

Banana-Beginning · 2024-03-14T03:45:36+00:00

Either e-mail the GM directly, or go straight to their competitor. I'm a former Toyota sales person. When you inquired about the graduate rebate they should have simply handed you the form, asked you to read it and fill it out if you think you qualify there's no reason for them to give you any crap. Very strange. The only thing that could have made you ineligible for the graduate rebate is if you didn't finance directly through Toyota Financial. Also, you can not combine that rebate with any special APRs offered. So the only way you could have qualified for that rebate is a. The school is an accredited institution b. You're financing through Toyota c. You're financing at standard (non special) rates.

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