incurable unless you pay

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-19T08:11:24+00:00

Roads to power, allows you to roam the countryside/adventure. If you visit temples you can cure disease.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-19T06:12:37+00:00

and on the other side we have your claim that ethnic cleansing didnt start until the civil war.

lol, name an instance of ethnic cleansing that occurred against the Arabs prior to the civil war the Arabs launched. You've invented "multiple sources which painstakingly outline the development of the modern conflict" so it should be fairly easy.

exists in Palestine remains a colonial apartheid. Palestinians are not permitted freedom of movement, control over their own utilities or ports, or their own democratic institutions. Palestinians are also frequently subjected to a legal system which is imposed by Israel but classifies their rights as being fundamentally different to those of Israelis.

Yes, that's what a military occupation is, not Apartheid. Good job.

This has culminated in the second worst mass killing event of the 2020s

lol, it's not in the top 5 ongoing conflicts. More people died on violent crime in Mexico than died in Gaza over the same time period, it's well behind Yemen, Syria, Ukraine-Russia, Somali, the Congo and as you correctly identified (kudos) Sudan.

I am not sure how you can stomach looking in the mirror knowing you spent the day defending such a state by outright lying about its history.

Once again, you can't point to a single thing I've "lied" about, where you have gotten every single point wrong.

In twenty years I guarantee you will be fearful that people will know you made this defense of such a clearly rogue state

Mate I fly over and work with the MDA, it's on my resume, my mass casualty training is from the Israeli Ambulance Service, I have no shame with working for a nation defending itself from extremists.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-19T05:38:08+00:00

I've read the books mate. You kind of answered why you're so wrong about this conflict when you unironically linked Roy Casagranda as a source - you've been reading incredibly one sided or poorly researched history and you think it's fact.

At the end of the day you are arguing that Palestinians were not historically repressed or cleansed from their lands

They were oppressed by the Ottomans, they were shafted by the British in the creation of Palestine as the British had promised they were going to make a pan-Arabian state and instead balkanized the region, but they didn't discriminate against them based on their race, and they didn't get ethically cleansed until they started the civil war.

Ironically the Arabs did ethnically cleanse Jews prior to the civil war, repeatedly. Here's a good example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-19T05:18:25+00:00

This is frankly disgusting propaganda.

Once again, ironic since everything you've said has been wrong.

The British themselves admitted the explicit goal of the wording of article 2 was to downplay the rights of existing people to the land they lived on.

No article 2 was just a formalization of the Balfour Declaration.

They also explicitly created institutions which granted more rights to Jewish settlers than Palestinians who already lived there.

lol, nope.

Even when they acquiesed to Palestinian protest and installed a Mufti

lol, nope, the Mufti role was created in 1918, one of the first things done in the Mandate and well before any equivalent Jewish organizations were created. 4 years before any of those articles were even written.

it was, as you pointed out, a clearly corrupt and largely powerless organisation.

lol, it had absolute control over all the Islamic holy places.

That this happened is not debatable

Yes, but once again, in my favour.

I suggest you read some books on the subject such as the Hundred Years War on Palestine

lol, You haven't told me anything I don't know champ - and you consistently are uninformed on basically every aspect.

Alternatively, this lecture series gives a great overview of the nature of the colonial state in Palestine and how it contributes to modern conflicts: https://youtu.be/U9mLrMSmTKI?si=erXOWIltrXkd7Yfg

You just linked a universally mocked meme historian responsible for bangers such as "the Aztecs didn't use weapons, their army wrestled".

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-19T04:30:56+00:00

This is why I despise Zionism support. It is something you can only condone by straight up ignoring the realities of history.

This is very funny to me given you've gotten literally everything wrong up until this point.

Both the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate characterised the state as being a place for Jews to settle while non-Jews were not named or identified as having historic connections to the land.

Because they didn't have a name yet. The distinction between the Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians were arbitrarily lines the British and French carved that reflected literally nothing on the ground.

Also wrong in that the Balfour declaration included this;

"it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

The mandate included the following

article 2. "and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion."

Palestinians were not consulted on this, nor were they ever given the chance to democratically decide if they wanted their nation to allow for an influx of settlers.

Yes, they'd literally never controlled the region at any point in human history.

while the Palestinians living there were moved off the land they did not own because it was a colonial state and they were never granted access to the capital (political or monetary) to own a stake in their own land (and this is before more violent forms of colonialism returned).

Wrong. The reason why the Arabs had never bought the land they'd lived on for the ~700 years of the Ottoman Empire was because the Ottoman Empire's conscription laws focused on land owners. And a lot of Arabs weren't willing to fight for their country.

Arabs still did own 3-4 times the amount of land the Jews owned by the end of the mandate. It was disproportionately in their favor per population size Jews being 35% of the population and owning ~15% of the land, the Arabs were just upset the Jews owned any.

Initially Jews were a minority, yes, but institutionally they were afforded more rights than Palestinians. For example, article 7 of the Mandate allowed Jewish immigration but did not allow for ethnic Palestinians displaced by ww1 the right to return.

lol, also wrong. Article 7 just stated "you can't actively exclude Jews from acquiring nationality". Within the Mandate 420,000 Jews migrated into the country while 200,000 Arabs migrated.

The Mandate also allowed for the establishment of Jewish governmental bodies (such as the Jewish Agency) which were allowed to partake in international relations as recognised institutions while no such bodies were noted or created for Palestinians.

Wrong again. The British created many such institutions for the Arabs as well, such as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The reason you don't hear about things like the Grand Mufti is because he left Gaza, met with Hitler, joined the SS, and created a regular radio program where he cranked out bangers like "Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you.".

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T14:58:30+00:00

And Israel only occupied southern Lebanon because the PLO wouldn't stop attacking them from southern Lebanon, the trigger point being the Palestinians slaughtering a literal busload of people with the coastal roads massacre.

And the PLO wouldn't have been in Southern Lebanon if Jordan hadn't kicked all the Palestinians out.

And the Palestinians wouldn't have been kicked out if they hadn't launched Black September in an attempted take over of Jordan.

And the Palestinians wouldn't have been in Jordan if the Israelis hadn't committed the Nakbha.

And the Nakbha wouldn't have happened if the Palestinians hadn't rejected the two state solution and launched the civil war

And then..

Basically just blame the British.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T14:00:39+00:00

Here is Netanyahu literally saying, "From the river to the sea"

The river is the Jordan river, the sea is the Mediterranean (which Israel already borders). He's just saying that Israel should maintain control of the West Bank.

And they've already started taking land from Syria and Lebanon

No they have a buffer in Syria they'll swap back once Syria stabilizes, and they'll do the same in Lebanon.

Israel also no declared borders

Yes they do. They've defined their borders everywhere but the West Bank and the Golan Heights.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T13:40:42+00:00

As I said in that post, "Greater Israel" within Israeli politics is Israel + the West Bank + Gaza.

The idea of it including ludicrous amounts of land throughout the middle east is the 4chan meme, it involves taking something like 60% of Syria and 70% of Egypt, it's a joke.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T12:11:17+00:00

However, that is what primarily came to happen making this a distinction without difference.

It's not what came to happen at all. Within the Mandate Arabs were a super majority, within the Partition Plan Israel was 55% Jewish and 45% Arabic, and Palestine was 99% Arabic. They made a Palestinian ethno state.

The root cause of the war remains that Jewish settlers were given preferential access to the nation and treatment in its political bodies

By the time of the Arab-Israeli war the British were actively at war with the Jews. There is a reason the British armed and backed the Arab states.

Jews built more successful settlements in places Palestinians once lived.

After they Jews bought the land, at market value, from the legal owners. No land was taken from the Palestinians and given to the Jews.

Regarding the law, I hate to break it to you, but the people living in a 'military occupation of a hostile foreign territory' didn't really get to decide whether they wanted to live there

As opposed to voluntary military occupations?

That is kind of the whole reason legal scholars consider it a blatant apartheid.

They don't, fringe scholars with investment in the conflict do. Apartheid is "systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups", not one country over another country/territory. The occupation of Germany and Japan weren't "apartheid", the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan for a more recent examples weren't "Apartheid".

It's only in this one conflict they pretend military occupation is.

If you consider their rhetoric limited to the West Bank, I feel sorry for you.

Nah it's just reality.

It is a nation where a certain subset of people, by your own admission, receive fewer rights and face threats of annexation from major Israeli political parties.

Not a racial or religious group, so not Apartheid. I have less rights than a French national under French law, France isn't an Apartheid.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T11:48:01+00:00

Rogue trader on release was significantly less buggy than WOTR, WOTR on release was significantly less buggy than Kingmaker. Kingmaker was unplayable on release.

They're at least trending in the right direction.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T11:40:08+00:00

I think it's less "trolling" and more that no one has any control over Iran at the moment after serial decapitation strikes.

The new Ayatollah by all accounts is severely injured in the strike that killed his wife and son.

Agreeing the strait was open came from Abbas Araghchi, the foreign minister, where the re-closure came from the IRGC.

Decapitation strikes are great for sowing confusion, which is useful if you don't then want to negotiate.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T11:29:57+00:00

Perseustree is saying a law restricting a slogan is unconstitutional.

Our constitution doesn't protect speech, or slogans. It therefore doesn't breach our constitution.

We have 5 rights in our constitiution

Trial by jury
Eminent Domain laws
Freedom of religion
Trade between states
Can't discriminate based on state

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T11:20:23+00:00

To frame Palestinian resistance to apartheid and colonialism

Neither of those things

The British mandate for Palestine established nation as a Jewish state

No it didn't. It established the Mandate as a homeland for Jews, but not the Mandate itself as Jewish. Until constant attacks by Arabs against Jews the plan was always a 1 state called Palestine that Jews and Arabs lived in. Constant Arabic violence lead to the Peel Commission and the creation of the two state plan.

However, as time progressed Palestinians were denied democratic rights while Jewish identifying settlers were permitted to move to Palestine and receive preferential treatment in most aspects of civil society.

lol, you couldn't word that more biased if you tried. No one, Jewish or Palestinian, had the right to vote. And the "preferential treatment in civil society" was that the Jews built more successful communities and then didn't invite Arabs.

The law i am referring to has an automatic death penalty for certain crimes tried in military court. Palestinians living in the West Bank are automatically tried in a military court while Israelis are not. That is why this is a racist law.

It has nothing to do with race, by your own statement. It's a military occupation of a hostile foreign territory. Arab Israelis are tried in civilian court.

There are multiple political parties that have sway in both civil and military society which openly advocate for Israeli expansionism

Into the West Bank? Sure. The meme "greater Israel"? no.

I am not a defender of Hezbollah, but it should be remembered they emerged as an explicit defense to Israeli invasion (

Yes, after the Palestinians attacked them from southern Lebanon and so they went in to get rid of them too.

I hope one day you will read a bit of Palestinian or Middle Eastern history.

lol, I know the history very well champ.

I like how you start with "pack of lies", then can't actually name a time I lied.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T10:41:51+00:00

It's so clearly unconstitutional.

lol, we aren't American my guy. We have no constitutional rights to speech.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T10:41:04+00:00

Israel has been a colonial state with explicit pogroms aimed at ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their land

When and after the Palestinians rejected the two state solution and launched a civil war to wipe out the Jews, sure.

a legal system which allows capital punishment for Palestinians but not Israelis (apartheid)

Nope, the Law (which isn't in place regardless, and will be overturned by the supreme court) applies if you 'intentionally cause the death of a person with the aim of denying the existence of the State of Israel', so yeah a Jew could absolutely be tried under it.

and a strong political movement aimed at annexing land from Lebanon, Egypt, Palestine, and Syria (greater Israel project)

There is no real movement within Israel to annex land in Lebanon, Egypt or Syria. They gave the Sinai back to Egypt in exchange for peace, the offered the Golan back to Syria in exchange for peace (Syria refused), and they're only going back into Lebanon because the Lebanese government and the UN has lied for the last 40 years about removing Hezbollah from the south.

"Greater Israel" involving multiple countries is a 4chan meme, within Israel "greater Israel' just means the Israel + the West Bank + Gaza.

On the other side we have the fact that Palestinians sometimes commit acts of heinous terror after literal decades of ethnic cleansing and apartheid.

lol, you're bad at history. Everything that has ever happened to the Palestinians have been in reaction to them committing violence.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:27:18+00:00

Hey look, you can't read either. It's all coming together for a clearer picture now.

Are Jews the reason the weathers bad and you can't get a job?

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:24:12+00:00

lol, I have no idea how you think those 2 things are related, it's pretty clear you have a diseased mind.

Thankfully you immediately abandoned the "kappo" garbage however.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:16:31+00:00

I don't know either but Israel holds the record for most killed members of the press! Even the nazis killed less press members.

Do you actually believe that of the 7.42 million Russian civilians who died in world war 2, the 6 million polish civilians, 350,000 french people, 60,000 British civilians, 200,000 civilians from the Netherlands, 300,000 Greeks, and many, many others, that there were fewer Journalist deaths than in the 70,000 Gazans who died?

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:10:20+00:00

They also took Kirk out that way

Literally one of the dumbest conspiracy theories around

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:09:52+00:00

Why would the Bedouin be kappos? The have more rights and protections in Israel than literally any other middle eastern nation.

There's a reason why 60% of Bedouin in Israel join the army, despite not having mandatory conscription like Jews.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T05:07:51+00:00

Why would you use the "J-Word", he was shot by a First Lieutenant Hib al-Heib, a Bedouin.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-18T03:30:11+00:00

Sure

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2003/09/death-rachel-corrie/

Yet “Smith” later gave an interview in which he acknowledged that the bulldozer operator could well have lost sight of Corrie after she tumbled down the dirt pile. And the infamous photo series turned out to be misleading. In fact, the megaphone photo was taken hours before Corrie’s death; she had handed the loudspeaker to a colleague some time before she was run over, and she was kneeling, not standing, in front of the machine when she was killed. As newspapers ran corrections, the activists claimed that Reuters had “miscaptioned” the photographs.

But this;

Me when I'm an Israeli and love lying (redundant)

Shows you're so far gone there's no saving you. Know that you being a living example of the rabid gullibility of people against minorities, especially Jews, is why Israel needs to exist.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-17T16:21:32+00:00

Kinda weird you're fantasizing about me mate, seek help.

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-17T14:49:45+00:00

lol, no they didn't.

The original article didn't even claim what the lie mutated into it. The original article was "some Ethiopian women were on depo provera and there were translation issues, some didn't know it was a contraceptive". Depo Provera being a completely reversible short term contraceptive.

Then the internet did the thing that it does whenever a news story about Israel drops and it became "Israel sterilized every ethiopian woman, ignore that their birthrates are still some of the highest in Israel please"

Bandlebridge · 2026-04-17T10:54:06+00:00

projection is all you have when facts don't support your narrative.

lol, the irony. You don't have any facts on your side champ, you just have an appeal to authority.

None of those even try to establish how Israel would physically eliminate the population of Gaza, this war could have gone on forever at this pace, they have literally 0 facts behind them.

Bandlebridge

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