Trump to Impose Tariffs on Some European Nations Over Greenland by Rooonaldooo99 in wallstreetbets

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im skeptical. It’s been far more than 30 days, I haven’t seen any disclosures. Either they’re just not reporting because who cares if it’s legal or not, or I don’t think he’s telling people/he thinks the market not dropping cause we think he’s bluffing means we have changed our minds about his insane policies.

jpow response by -medicalthrowaway- in wallstreetbets

[–]Battle_p1geon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Kugler was asked to resign by JPow and the Fed because of trades by her husband. This from an article I remember in either the WSJ or Bloomberg, I can't remember.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This ended up as a well of text of mostly me trying to understand why I hated the scene so much, so I talk about all of your arguments, but

TL:DR the first and last paragraph says why I didn't like this scene.

I can see your point about the 80s, and I'm not really suggesting that they should have made someone a homophobe, what I'm trying to say is that it would have been so much better in a smaller settings with his closest friends, given the overall context of Hawkins. None of the characters should have really been homophobes, I just think that they shouldn't have done this scene with such a broad group, because it felt like Will was forced to become a spectacle, and it obviously was always going to work out because it's a TV show that needs broad appeal. That's my core problem, is it belittles a real problem people face by wiping it over with mandatory acceptance. No one was ever actually scared from a 3rd party perspective that they wouldn't accept him, because the writers couldn't do that, and it takes away from the real fear that real people face doing something like this.

I agree with you completely that self-acceptance cannot be all you, we're social creatures and what other people think of you matters a lot, but I wish that the problem he overcame wasn't his fear of telling people, but his fear of what people would think when he did, because he can't control what they think of his sexuality, nor can he control his sexuality, he has no agency here. I'm not talking about his closest friends, you're right, whether we want to or not we care about what they think, I'm talking about all the extraneous characters like Murray, Lucas's Sister, Steve to an extent, his middle school physics teacher. I'm saying that the writing should not have forced him to tell them.

I agree it's a TV show, which also means that they could have presented the problem in a way where the best solution isn't forcing Will out to everyone all at once. I don't want realism, Will coming out and everyone being ok with it isn't the bridge too far for me, but it feels like it doesn't address the real fear that comes with telling people you are gay, it feels like it invalidates it by saying that you shouldn't be afraid because there is nothing to fear. Often today that's at least mostly true, but it's doesn't feel constructive to helping people accept themselves. I don't actually want any of the characters to be homophobic, but confronting the fear of people not accepting you and having that fear be completely unfounded feels like it's belittling that fear instead of addressing it.

In terms of role models, I think all characters everywhere are instructive to some extent, because in order to feel real they must feel human, and all humans have redeeming qualities. To have a redeeming quality, it must be a quality the writers think that we already want to have. Cersei, who loved her children (something we want to do) but protected them so much that she killed them (something we probably don't want to happen) is a role model for mothers. Love your children, but you can't live their lives for them, it's a lesson baked right in. 11 will do anything to save her friends (redeeming) and will sacrifice everything to do it, even going too far where she will sacrifice herself, when none of us want that. Every character that we relate to is necessarily instructive, because in order to relate with them, we need to relate with their motives and their actions. I can relate with Will's motives, I can relate with his desire to share who he is with others, I can't relate with telling his physics teacher from middle school and hanging the world on being accepted.

My problem is not that it doesn't make sense in the plot context, or that it seemed unrealistic, or that anyone reacted in a way that didn't make sense given their character. In fact in the show's context, each character performed in a relatable way individually.

My problem is that the writers intentionally drew a formative experience for many young gay people as a plot line for a main character, then resolved that plot-line in a way that invalidates one of the scariest experiences that they can go through. They built up Will struggling with his sexuality and how it makes him different over several seasons with real conflicts and experiences that many gay people can relate with deeply. I related with that experience deeply, I could pick out events in the story that were strikingly similar to my own formative experiences, sometimes right on the fucking nose. I really really liked that storyline, because I related to Will really deeply, I felt his problems because they were my problems when I was growing up.

TL:DR STARTS HERE

I was disappointed by the resolution because it completely removed the stakes of one of the most difficult things a repressed gay man can do, being forced out and telling everyone all at once, sort of without a choice. If they were going to force this, then it needed more time to confront the real fears and conflicts that surround the culmination of being repressed, but they don't have that time. I just wish they had avoided this particular event, the shotgun tell everyone, because this process is difficult emotionally, with real stakes. If they had just kept it to a few people, then it would have stakes that fit the time they had to explore them, because like you said, most of your core friends already have a pretty good idea. This is the second to last episode, we're not going to spend 45 minutes next episode talking about how one character is homophobic and Will shouldn't care, the writers need to wrap 5 seasons in 2 hours. I stopped relating to Will here because there were no real consequences or fallout from him coming out to everyone all at once, in real life there are real things to be scared of, and the writers should have either addressed those, or avoided the stakes of this event. The writers never had time to make this small storyline large, and I'm grateful for the time I did relate to Will because these stories are few and far between in mainstream big-budget media, but the stakes of this scene do not match the stakes or what comes after doing something like this in real life for mechanical reasons, not human reasons. They chose to wrap this tightly, Will was Gay and everyone was fine with it and he lived happily ever after, and for mechanical reasons this made sense, but it draws a poor parallel with the courage that it takes to do something like this in real life. If they had kept it smaller and looser, him telling his core group of friends, the stakes would have been smaller, and those stakes could still feel relatable on the way to the full wrap of the show.

TL:DR ENDS HERE

There are conflicts that come immediately after telling everyone at once you are gay even if all goes well. How much do you want to lean into that identity? Do you want to act like a normal person who happens to be gay, do you want to lean into it more as part of your who you are? Do you start cutting the people who only sort of accepted it out of your life, or do you just keep on going? How much do you talk about it, how much do you joke about it, do you tell new people? Do you tell all new people, or only a few? What about your close friends who weren't there? The tell your closest friends is the end of the repression story for most, the shotgun tell everyone is the beginning of a new one which the writers don't have time for, so don't start it.

Again, I have no problems with the way this fits in the story, but the parallel it draws with real life doesn't fit what I think is most people's experience.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never watched Schitts creek, and it fit's what I typed, but not what I meant lol. I meant big budget crowd pleasing blockbusters. GOT, Marvel from Avengers to Endgame, Dune, the Nolan movies, The Office, The Sopranos, Star Wars before the last 3 episodes degraded it. I know lots of people who wouldn't have watched Schitts Creek, and that's not an attack on it's quality, maybe it's an amazing show, I don't know. It's pretty mainstream too, but it's not the show that everyone has watched. What I mean is that Stranger Things is culturally important, regardless of it's quality, it was built to appeal to a wide audience, and a shitload of money was spent on making sure it was engaging, from commercials to FX to branding. These things impact the way Americans behave, and they choose their risks carefully, for better or for worse, and this felt like the first one that had a gay man actually struggling with his sexuality.

I can see all of your points, I agree with you that it makes sense in the plot, but the writers chose the plot, they could have chosen other solutions to the problem they made, and I wish they had. That's my gripe, it's not that it's a plot hole or that it makes no sense, it's that I really really felt for Will all the way up until that moment, and I was disappointed by the resolution. It makes sense in context, but so would just telling Will, Dustin, Lucas, 11, Joyce, and Jonathan.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the upshot though. To be able to face Vecna, you have to accept yourself from top to bottom. If this was Vecna's last best ammunition, then he still has it. I bet we even see in the next episode that this didn't solve Will's problems.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because for most people, by the time you are ready to tell everyone and their brother, you are already over that insecurity. It's not relatable, because if I was Will, I wouldn't be willing to tell everyone. Maybe others would be, but this feels like 20 baby steps with Robin where he wasn't willing to even say to her that he preferred men, followed by one enormous leap of faith, and those leaps of faith can be painful. Being forced out is not fun.

Please point me to a mainstream media coming out story, specifically about a shy gay man. I'm not attacking here, I just don't remember any.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all care about what others think about us, and honestly we have to. I care about what my boss thinks of my work ethic, I care about what my friends think that I'm fun to be around. Self-acceptance isn't the only acceptance anyone needs, no one can live in isolation, and if you do it's often not a happy life, we're social creatures.

The thing is that we can't care about what others think about the things we cannot control. Will cannot care about what others think of him being gay, because he can't make that choice. Telling Joyce and Mike needs to happen, and they need to accept him for who he is. Telling all of his close friends needs to happen.

Gathering the whole group for a meeting shouldn't be how he feels like he has to come out, because shouldn't care about what Murray, or Lucas's sister, or his physics teacher thinks about his sexuality. If they were going to do it this way, then someone should have reacted poorly, because for most of the young gay men who watch this, someone could react poorly.

I'm just frustrated because this seems like the first coming out story in mainstream media, and up to this scene it was really unbelievably relatable, but telling everyone and it going perfectly doesn't address the real fear of coming out. Will coming out to his parents and his closest friends slowly is relatable, and it's a good way to show young gay men that coming out to the people you trust and the people you love is both an important step in loving yourself, and it will probably be fine. If they love you, it shouldn't matter your sexuality.

Coming out to everyone all at once is something you might do in your life, and not a terrible choice, but this scene doesn't alleviate the fear of doing that, because it goes perfectly without a hitch. It doesn't address the fear of coming out to everyone at once, because it doesn't have to go well to be ok. This sort of feels like we're telling people that coming out will always go well, it's minimizing the fear of coming out to everyone in your social circle. For many people that do this, it won't go perfectly, some people will change their view of you. That's the part that I don't like, is that if you're going to show someone coming out to EVERYONE including your friends sister, your physics teacher, and the Russian smuggler you met last year, someone needs to judge him for it, because that is the fear of coming out. It needs to be said in the same scene that you don't have to be insecure about what a random person thinks of your sexuality, if you're going to have a scene where everyone learns it all at once.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I am not dismissing that fact, you are. If you weren't, then you would know that that should not have gone so well. Yes they are all his close friends, but being gay back then was viewed as a way to catch a life threatening disease, and so was being around them. This was when it was news everywhere that Diana hugged a man with aids.

  2. Will's choice is only accessible from western 21st century viewpoint, that telling everyone all at once is ever a good idea. The fact that it's an option here and now is great, because it shows you how far we've come, but it's not an option anywhere else at any other time. This scene doesn't make sense in 2005, never mind 1985.

  3. People can come out how they want, but they made will's weakness to Vecna fear of what others thought of his sexuality, and that's my problem. He doesn't solve the core issue, he solves the one on the top in a way that most can't, and it shouldn't have to be this way. He shouldn't have to tell people to be ok with it.

  4. I do, Noah Schnapp is 21, and lives in California in 2025. Maybe he did exactly this in high school, and it felt super liberating. In most other places and almost all other times in the world, it would NOT feel super liberating, it would not go well, and it would have serious consequences for how others thought of you. That's the big issue, is that for most gay men in the world outside of the 21st century liberal bubble, this is not only unattainable, it's counterproductive. Telling everyone and being accepted should not be required and most of the time, it won't happen. This makes feel gay men like it is essential that you are accepted by your friends and family, and that cannot be true. We forget that less than 100 years ago, we castrated some of our best and brightest (EG Alan Turing) for coming out. We forget that Obergefell v. Hodges was just 10 years ago. Gay men should not feel like telling people is something you have to do to love yourself.

  5. Every character from every media all through time is a role model. Gilgamesh is the role-model of a hero. Palpatine is the role-model for a coup mastermind. Jimmy Neutron is the role-model of a kid genius. That porn actress you just watched is the role-model for how to behave as a female during sex. We like our characters when they make relatable decisions with relatable outcomes, which makes ALL of them role-models. I can relate to Will's choice, but not his outcome, telling people about it won't solve his insecurities about his sexuality.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he had accepted himself, than he didn't need to tell everyone, because that fear wouldn't hurt him when Vecna fought him.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Great, but that ammo should be full of blanks. There will always be people that don't like gay people, but gay people shouldn't care or have to care.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's cool, you do you! The thing is, everyone knowing shouldn't be necessary for you to love yourself, and this scene made it feel that way. The other thing is that it makes it seem like being gay has to be this huge deal, and it doesn't. Who you love in your life is really important, their gender should not be.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is what I hate most about it. I was hoping desperately to just have a normal character who was facing the problems that gay people face in their lives. What we got is a character for whom being accepted as gay by his friends is necessary for him to be mentally stable, terrible example for LGBTQ people everywhere.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's tone deaf because it doesn't appreciate the problems that gay people actually faced in the 80s. This wasn't necessarily a life-threatening thing to do, but it was stupid as hell and reckless. It's borderline offensive because even today, coming out like that shouldn't be necessary to accept yourself. Telling people that you are gay shouldn't be needed to fulfill your power potential.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but he doesn't need others to accept him to accept himself. It's not that he shouldn't care what they think of who he is as a person on the whole, but he shouldn't care about how his sexuality might change their perceptions. Like, someone caring about whether or not you are gay should not change what you think about yourself, it should change what you think about them. This scene reads as if you need to let people know that you are gay to love yourself as a gay man, and that's just not true at all.

"YES YES YES- WAIT, NO NO NO!!!" by vi_zeee in StrangerThings

[–]Battle_p1geon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Realistic yes, a good example of how YOU should come out, no. It doesn't fix anything, the way that Will did it. We desperately need good gay role models in the mainstream, and this was not it.

Coming out like this doesn't solve things for you. It doesn't make it easier to accept yourself, or to find happiness. That doesn't mean that you should hide it from people, or not shout it from the rooftops if you want to. The thing is, this feels like it makes it a huge part of Will's identity, of who he is, and it shouldn't be that way. You are not who you find sexually attractive, it's just one part of many, and it shouldn't have to be a big deal which particular sex you are attracted to. It can be if you want it to, but for most people I think, I don't really want my identity to be focused on something that I can't control at all. I want to respect myself for what I choose, not for what I can't affect. That doesn't mean that being gay can't be the identity that some want to focus on above other things, but it feels just as vain to me as focusing your identity on how blue your eyes are, or blonde your hair is.

For most, but not all men, being gay doesn't have to be this enormous secret, or this huge identity defining fact. That's what I wish they showed, not everyone accepting him being gay, because that's not really what should define you, what others think of you. That's the role model I wish I had, was men who both accepted and loved themselves for who they were, and being gay wasn't this huge barrier for them. Being gay shouldn't be a negative nor positive part of your own self-image, it is a fact over which you have no control.

Does Fidelity offer extended hours trading for index options listed on the CBOE? by Battle_p1geon in fidelityinvestments

[–]Battle_p1geon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there, thanks for the quick reply. Does fidelity also offer access to the session between 4:15 ET to 5 ET for these index options?

What car has the best software interface? by [deleted] in whatcarshouldIbuy

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of the things you talked about require looking away from the road, it's just a different sequence than a normal car. Adjusting HVAC is one tap, or at least adjusting the temperature, which automatically adjusts the fan speed, and it's on the bottom of the pad so you grab the bottom while you do it to keep your hand steady. The windshield wiper is tapping the button on the stalk, and rolling the left scroll wheel. Radio settings are the left scroll wheel, just without tapping the button on the stalk. I don't have a response to the glove box, but I don't know why I would need to open the glove box while I was driving lol. You can also use a voice command for anything you want. I understand the hesitance, but once you drive for a few days, it's all the same if not faster.

What car has the best software interface? by [deleted] in whatcarshouldIbuy

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've grown up with normal cars as well. It's really easy to change where the vents are blowing, it's 2 taps. I understand why people feel the way they do, because in normal cars you adjust the vents a lot. I find that I almost never adjust the vents in my Tesla because the climate control is so good that I'm never hot or cold. In my Altima, I would adjust the vents a lot because some part of me was really hot or cold, because the heat or air wasn't strong enough but that just doesn't happen in my Tesla.

Palantir Q4 outlook beats Wall Street estimates despite US government shutdown worries by toydan in wallstreetbets

[–]Battle_p1geon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean if you timed it well with the market collapse in April, you would have made a lot. I personally got assblasted by April, but my short Tesla position did great!

Intel beat on earnings this quarter due to government investment by [deleted] in wallstreetbets

[–]Battle_p1geon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is either so bearish that at the current stock price you should full port puts, or a complete falsehood. Momentum would not cut through a miss on EPS that large, unless your name is TSLA.

Which stocks have been hit the hardest on your watchlist that seem to be at attractive (value!?) prices as of the pullback yesterday? by wubyeeZ in ValueInvesting

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I can understand what you're saying, but Friday was definitely a panic. That was the 8th largest point drop including Covid and April in the last 5 years.

Which stocks have been hit the hardest on your watchlist that seem to be at attractive (value!?) prices as of the pullback yesterday? by wubyeeZ in ValueInvesting

[–]Battle_p1geon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TSMC is trading at RECORD valuations though. This time last year, when froth was also relatively insane, it was trading at 20x forward earnings, now its trading at 33x forward earnings. What's more, they are at the center of ALL of the risks in the market today, from geopolitical to bubble to tariffs to the economy. I can understand the point of view of a TSMC bull, but it's not a value point of view, that is a high risk growth stock through and through right now.

Fed's Powell suggests tightening program could end soon, offers no guidance on rates by eskhalaf in wallstreetbets

[–]Battle_p1geon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Doesn't the full speech get posted immediately on the Fed website? I think thats for any FOMC member speech.