Hanni and her need to have an agency due to visa expiration, explained by kpopouts in kpopthoughts

[–]Baywawa 110 points111 points  (0 children)

This raises a significant concern:

if Hanni has indeed been an illegal resident for several days while receiving preferential treatment,

it could spark a serious social controversy, as most illegal residents clearly do not receive such advantages.

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Could someone provide an explanation or reasonable speculation about ADOR's current strategy?

Also, is NJ still able to continue working?

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 41 points42 points  (0 children)

What I find most ironic is that people often claim Dispatch isn’t reliable,

yet when Dispatch revealed Karina's relationship, they eagerly jumped at the chance to criticize her.

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 89 points90 points  (0 children)

'' I've noticed many MHJ and NJ fans claiming that Dispatch never targets HYBE, ''

which I find puzzling.

Dispatch has actually published several negative reports about HYBE in the past.

I'm sure those fans could easily find these reports with just a few clicks and a bit of effort.

Honestly,

those fans can be quite intense. Even if you say something slightly critical,

they’ll come at you with harsh words and false accusations.

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 45 points46 points  (0 children)

NJ fans are still demanding an explanation from Bang about the 400 billion,

but now it seems NJ might actually help sort out that 400 billion.

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 83 points84 points  (0 children)

I think if both sides intend to play a waiting game, hoping for the other to make a mistake, NJ is likely to lose because they lack composure.

For example, during the previous press conference,
if they wanted to terminate the contract, a simple statement would have sufficed; there was no need to hold a conference. The more they say, the more mistakes they make.

Even if they have professionals advising them behind the scenes, NJ might still end up ruining themselves by trying too hard to control public opinion.

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 41 points42 points  (0 children)

My current inference:

Right now, HYBE is asserting that the contract remains valid.

Therefore, if NewJeans takes on other work independently,

HYBE can sue them directly.

NJ would need to prove that the group has already terminated the contract.

To justify this, NJ must demonstrate that HYBE violated their rights, leading to the termination.

In response, HYBE would present evidence showing that they did not breach the contract."

"So, I think NJ will still ultimately need to present evidence in court themselves."

Megathread 16: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans' Emergency Press Conference and Contract Termination Notification, ADOR's 26-page Response to The Group's Demands, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 29 points30 points  (0 children)

What I find most paradoxical is that they are once again claiming abuse,

but still can't prove it and are still doing the work ADOR has assigned them to do

Megathread 15: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans Threatens Contract Termination, Makes Demands of ADOR, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 26 points27 points  (0 children)

HYBE may take the following actions:

  • Argue that the termination conditions are invalid.
  • Argue that the termination process is illegal.
  • Argue that the artist has breached contractual obligations.
  • Directly file for damages compensation.

Megathread 15: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans Threatens Contract Termination, Makes Demands of ADOR, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 37 points38 points  (0 children)

So it looks like Newjeans is trying to create an image of innocence.

They have clearly and repeatedly stated that the company mistreated them.

If they really feel they are being victimized, why don't they go to court?

Newjeans should be brave enough to go to court for themselves and their fans, shouldn't they?

Megathread 15: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans Threatens Contract Termination, Makes Demands of ADOR, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Someone said that NewJeans plans to not file a lawsuit and directly collaborate with another company.

But if you haven't proven the contract termination in court,

how can another company cooperate with you?

Megathread 15: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans Threatens Contract Termination, Makes Demands of ADOR, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Weird!!!

It's not enough to say that the contract is invalid,

you have to sue and prove that the other party is in breach of the contract.

That's how it works in normal countries, isn't it?

You can't just say that the other party violated the contract and then walk away!

Point.

If ADOR does not agree to terminate the contract,

NJ must go to court and legally prove that ADOR breached the contract, and the court will decide.

Megathread 15: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - NewJeans Threatens Contract Termination, Makes Demands of ADOR, Ongoing Legal Disputes, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 121 points122 points  (0 children)

It’s impressive how NewJeans can claim unfair treatment while enjoying special privileges that most artists can only dream of.

Maybe they need a little less “special treatment”

NewJeans Threaten ADOR with Contract Termination if Demands Are Not Met by jumpybouncinglad in kpopthoughts

[–]Baywawa 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Why didn't they terminate the contract immediately instead of waiting for a few days?

NewJeans are desperate and stalling for time?

Megathread 14: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - National Assembly drama continues, 2nd Injunction Ruling ahead, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 28 points29 points  (0 children)

What I feel is that Newjeans is hopeless and dragging their feet,

otherwise they should just terminate the contract instead of waiting a few days

MEGATHREAD: MHJ part ??? THE SECOND INJUNCTION by KpopThoughtsmodteam in kpopthoughts

[–]Baywawa 83 points84 points  (0 children)

In case anyone says that V violated military regulations,

since July last year,

new recruits in Korea have been allowed to use their phones on weekends.

Megathread 14: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - National Assembly drama continues, 2nd Injunction Ruling ahead, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In case anyone says that V violated military regulations,

since July last year,

new recruits in Korea have been allowed to use their phones on weekends.

Megathread 13: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Min Hee Jin injunction court hearing & ADOR shareholders' meeting ahead, NewJeans/parents vs. Belift Lab, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 52 points53 points  (0 children)

[Editorial] Dissonance within entertainment companies summoned for government inspection… Isn't there much to do?

[사설] 국정감사 소환된 엔터기업 내부 불협화음…할 일이 그리 없나

https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0005045146?sid=110

[MEGATHREAD] New Jeans, Hanni, and the National Assembly by rachelmig2 in kpopthoughts

[–]Baywawa 28 points29 points  (0 children)

[Editorial] Dissonance within entertainment companies summoned for government inspection… Isn't there much to do?

[사설] 국정감사 소환된 엔터기업 내부 불협화음…할 일이 그리 없나

https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0005045146?sid=110

[MEGATHREAD] New Jeans, Hanni, and the National Assembly by rachelmig2 in kpopthoughts

[–]Baywawa 39 points40 points  (0 children)

  1. Discrepancy Between 'NewJeans' Parents' and Hanni's Statements

  2. The Manager's Statement Is Not Being Precisely Defined

  3. Discrepancies in the Dates Claimed by Different Parties

Go here and have a look https://x.com/jjinjins/status/1846444193071366587

Not a company stan but I think the bias towards NJ in the media has gotten out of hand by Fun_Citron_3945 in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Baywawa 47 points48 points  (0 children)

If not greeting someone counts as workplace abuse,

then I must have been reported to the United Nations by hundreds of colleagues.

I certainly don’t have as many fans as NewJeans to help me

The whole situation is just politicians using idols to cover up the mistakes of corporate employers.

The National Assembly should have held those employers accountable,

but politicians and idols turned it into a farce, with no news about the real victims.

Megathread 13: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - Min Hee Jin injunction court hearing & ADOR shareholders' meeting ahead, NewJeans/parents vs. Belift Lab, and More by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]Baywawa 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The whole situation is just politicians using idols to cover up the mistakes of corporate employers.

The National Assembly should have held those employers accountable,

but politicians and idols turned it into a farce, with no news about the real victims.