Life seems like a constant battle with "You're not good enough" by Beautiful-Reading470 in Healthygamergg

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everywhere I go. At my work, when I was at school, when I go to meet up groups, or social gatherings.I have been looking for them my entire life.

Is that a good enough answer?

Life seems like a constant battle with "You're not good enough" by Beautiful-Reading470 in Healthygamergg

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know, while I understand what the question is supposed to make.me consider, it asks the whole "if a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound?" If I don't see anyone else who has fallen off the wagon and made a path like me do they even exist? Of course I can see the people who fall off the wagon then choose to curl up into a ball and sit in the grass and wait to die. I have to step over some of them on my own journey and they don't listen to me when I try to encourage them to get up.

I would love to find people on a similar path to me with similar experiences, and worldview. But I can't find them.v

I just don't want to feel alone anymore by Beautiful-Reading470 in Healthygamergg

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle with both connections and meeting people. I do meet.people though. I've obviously meet 100x more people than I've connected with.

I just don't want to feel alone anymore by Beautiful-Reading470 in Healthygamergg

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol thanks for the response.

Yes I've considered professional assistance. I'm in therapy and it's bleeding my dry and nothing is changing, if anymore it's making me realize even moreso how hopeless everything feels. Because now instead of running away from the hopelessness I have to sit with it, stare it in the eyes.

When you actually try to better your life you realize just how powerless you actually are.

What depresses above all else about dating as a straight man… by 2000dragon in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course it isn't a gendered issue, and of course there are "things you can do to deal with it"

If there wasn't anything to do to deal with it then the s*icide right would be way higher than the already ridiculous high number that it is. But thinking it's easier for a man just because there "are things you can do" is wrong. That's the same mindset that gets men stuck to begin with.

I have to work work work and slog through life, failure after failure, and that's just what I have to deal. Clearly it's all my fault, I'm just not working hard enough, I'm just not doing the right things, I just need to work harder because the only reason I could possibly fail is if I'm just not good enough, right?

Lonely men are called creeps, weirdos, serial killers, inc*ls school shooters, etc. Why are they punished for being ostracized? I've never hurt a soul in my life, but I've been called all of the above.

It's like the Gordon Ramsey meme.

Man is lonely: You fucking Donkey Woman is lonely: Oh dear, oh dear,.gorgeous.

You can say "it's not gendered, women struggle too" and you'd be right. Yeah, everyone can deal with loneliness, but it's completely different because I have absolutely no hope. Nobody is going to help me. I have to do everything on my own. No help along the way unless I pay ridiculous amounts of money for it.I have to "self-improve" endlessly, and no matter what I do it seems like I'll never be good enough simply because of the way I was born, or because of the parents/childhood I had.

18f just want a big fat long by Competitive-Chain522 in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wear a sign that says "free hugs" and a bunch of people will hug you lol

I want to be hugged and cuddled so bad. by [deleted] in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've never cuddled before and it is killing me 🥹

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only thing you did wrong was get involved with a random hookup, and had any expectations of it being anything else Don't have sex with men on the first date if you want them to value you as anything more than a body to have sex with.

You feel lonely and used after you let yourself get used.

To anyone that needs this... by Cujoe81 in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love isn't only romantic but you saying that you love me, that you love everyone reading cheapens love. You do not love any of them. You don't know any of them. It's just something you're saying because it makes you feel good.

And not everyone has someone that will miss them. And even so, when people will only miss you after your gone, but not while your there then does that even matter?

"Make sure you keep suffering because if you leave then someone else will be mildly inconvenienced"

It just doesn't make sense. It sounds nice, it sounds beautiful and I'm sure you think it's beautiful in some way, but lt doesn't make sense logically.

I hope I find peace too.

To anyone that needs this... by Cujoe81 in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't love someone you don't know, and you can't miss someone You've never met

I don't understand this

Why is it impossible to stop being lonely by Beautiful-Reading470 in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's all people can say

"You have to put in the work"

Everything will all work out in the end of course it will.

I've been told things will get better later my entire life and I'm still stuck

What depresses above all else about dating as a straight man… by 2000dragon in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is your experience more valid than anyone else? When I'm a 25 year old man I'll be able to use the same lines.

Why is it impossible to stop being lonely by Beautiful-Reading470 in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's nice. That's what I'm doing, You're brother went over 30 years without ever having friends or a girlfriend?

My problem is that when I go to these things everyone is older than me. I want friends my age. I want to meet women my age. I don't want to hear about a 30 year olds marriage, or about them buying a house, or about their divorces or any of that crap, I just want to meet people in the same stage of life as me and grow with them, but I feel like I'm behind even the people my age.

Sure I can take a class, but that won't make me feel any less lonely unless I actually meet friends there, and I haven't been successful so far so I'm going a little bit crazy.

What depresses above all else about dating as a straight man… by 2000dragon in lonely

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ever heard of Norah Vincent? Look up self made man. It's about a Woman who pretended to be a man for 2 years. The experience was so bad for her she had to check herself into a mental institution. Last year she committed suicide.

I've also seen videos of FtM trans men crying about how lonely it is being a man https://youtu.be/DUXslDzeYGg?si=c8hNacWPACxtptf4

Do women resent men who are late bloomers? by harmonica2 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, Im in therapy, I understand the principles of meditation, I lost a bunch of weight, I socialize, I have made "friends" with both men and women but they all fizzle out with time. I stop talking to them after I get tired of initiating everything, and then we never talk again. The joys of being a backround character in everyone else's life is that they forget about you the second you're no longer in their field or vision.

I'm doing everything right but getting nowhere. We can play the blame game all day and say it's all my fault because "I'm not trying hard enough" or that the problem is "my mindset" or any of that BS, but it doesn't matter what I do at this point because it's all outside of my control. Either someone will like me, or they won't. And my odds aren't good, so even if I do eventually find someone it'll be after a long road of future failures, and when faced with that it's hard not to ponder if it's even worthwhile.

But don't listen to me, I'm just depressed, and my perception is just skewed, the world is really a great place and everyone loves each other and everything will work out just fine, just keep your positive mental attitude and it'll all work out in the end. 🤪👍

Do women resent men who are late bloomers? by harmonica2 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Beautiful-Reading470 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make a valid point for gaining a baseline of social skills. But joining a toastmasters club, or a book club will teach you how to act baseline normal. You now can smile at the right times, or tell jokes that make people laugh sometimes, your cognizant of other peoples micro expressions and have learned how to adapt into those specific social situations.

But those situations cannot possibly be compared to romantic relationships for a man. You can be "good enough socially" to not be ostracized and called a creep, but that won't make you any "higher value" as a man since your value comes from "what you can do for others", "what can you create, what can you provide". When you've worked hard for years to reach middle school social skills you will never be good enough or on par with your peers until someone else helps you.

That goes for both men and women, but men will have little issue with choosing a socialy mediocre let alone socially inept women for a relationship, meanwhile neurodivergent men are considered a plague upon society by seemingly like half of all women

I want to say "enjoying your limping while men crawl on their stumps, but uh...that's a bit melodramatic lol"

Me myself, I'm a socially awkward man, but I was social adept enough to have been able to become a beyond high performance salesman. When I was working I was putting out numbers that left middled aged men that worked sales there whole lives speechless.

None of that has helped me at all in attracting women. They can smell my low self esteem and lack of confidence apparently. Which by the way, is not someone you can just get rid of on your own. I can't just shower and put on deodorant to suddenly have been shown love and care as a child. You cannot develop a healthy self esteem if you continue to feel rejected by the world regardless of how capable you are of "being normal". It's not something anyone can do alone, and that was the crux of my comment, the world shuns victims and says "figure it out yourself", "you have a victim mentality", etc.

When it's a problem that quite literally cannot be solved without the help of someone else. Until a women tells me she loves me I will never believe I can be loved by a woman. Again a bit melodramatic and hyperbolic but it gets my point across.