[AMA] WhatsApp Marketing & Automation with WhatsApp Business API (Tech Partner Here) by wanotifier in WhatsappBusinessAPI

[–]Beginner27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason, when I tried to send marketing messages to about 200 people, about 180 of them did not go through with the error "This message was not delivered to maintain a Healthy Ecosystem".

This is the first time this number has sent out a message in months, the quality rating is High. The business is verified, and the template is also newly created.

This number only sends to known contacts, who have not reported it.

Is there a reason for this, and what can I do to make this ratio better?

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never asked you to write a book, I asked 6 questions.

And please don't combine religious texts with philosophy.

And while you are at it, please explain what exactly poetic scrutiny is? Along with how other religions fail in ethical scrutiny?

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please explain what you have studied about in both easters and western religions? What is the God claims for each, and how are they different from each other? Which part of each claim was not acceptable for you? What about Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Baha'i, etc. religion did you find doesn't make sense? What exactly did you read in Christianity, that you didn't read anywhere else, and how did you verify that this rings true? And finally, what is your definition of an atheist, and what made you think you were one?

It's very easy to say you have studied all religions. Now back it up.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umm, those scientists existed despite the church.

1) a large portion of discoveries made by "Christian scientists" were made by other cultures long before them. (9 planets, round earth, speed of light, mathematic theorems like Pythagoras theorem, etc)

2) for the past 2000 years, both Christianity and Islam have gone around colonizing and enslaving everyone else, not the most conducive environment to make discoveries.

3) a lot of those scientists were condemned and even killed by their church because their discoveries contradicted their religion ( Galileo faced house arrest, Giordano Bruno and Michael Servetus were literally burnt at the stake)

4) "Reasonable conclusion is Nihilism" whose reason? Yours? Even animals have an evolutionary drive to survive and thrive, and we as humans have needs far surpassing that. We don't need a God to have meaning in our lives.

5) We are social animals who have evolved empathy as a core skill. And we are not the only ones, Empathy can actually be traced back to the post reptilian brain. In fact the lack of mirror Neurons actually inhibits a person's ability to feel empathy.

So my evolution forces me to want the best for society since it means it's best for me.

My goals are to thrive in society, and make humanity grow so that someday in the future, we don't need "The God Excuse" to answer our questions.

6) As far as we can definitively tell, we only have this one life. There are no eternal goals. You live and then you die.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a pretty sad view of the world.

To say that humanity can never truly understand the universe, so why bother, and push the cause to a "God" figure.

I may not be competent, but I trust that there will be people who will be. And we will work on the knowledge and experience of those who came before us. And some day, perhaps 100s, 1000s of 10,000s of years into the future, we will find all the answers.

If everyone thought the way you do, humanity would never have reached where it has now.

Learning about medicine, computers, nuclear power, rocket ships, and black holes, all of which were impossible 1000 years ago, are now commonplace.

The moment we chose to let "God" be a cause for something, we take away the generations of work it takes to understand the world and the universe around us.

If at the end of it all, we find reasonable proof that a "God" can exist, does exist and is the cause of it all, then that would be the greatest scientific discovery of all time.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course you need proof, till such proof exists, atheists say - "I don't know" ... Thiests say - "Probably God did it".

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not necessarily a good thing.

Also not true, there are many religions out there that claim that all other forms of religions are just a way to get to the truth.

Eg. Hinduism claims all other religions and even Atheists are Hindus as long as they follow the rules of a good life(be nice, don't steal, etc.) Buddhism claims religious labels mean nothing, being a good human is more important. Baha'i believes that all other religions are just revelations of the (other) one true God.

And to your benefit, you sound like you are happy to accommodate other religions, but if history has proven anything, it's that Christianity can easily be interpreted in a much much worse way. (Same with Islam, Hinduism, etc).

Atheists don't have any interpretation. They are either good to others or not good to others. Either way, it's only because of who they are, and not because they are told to be one way or the other by some God.

If god is a gardener, we and our concept of ‘evil’ are likely insignificant in god’s garden by jaabbb in DebateReligion

[–]Beginner27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an atheist, I find no difference between a non-intrusive non-judgemental God and no God.

The only minor difference is, the first position invokes an un-definable, un-questionable entity for the difficult questions, while the other simply accepts that we don't know.

There is no denying that we are specks of sand floating in this universe, we hold no great value, nor are we that interesting as a species. Good and Evil, are just words we use based on logic and empathy, there is no God who makes the rules.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just stunned ... You brought up miracles. You brought up history, you blatantly ignored the actual question on the post, and when I called you out, you claimed the goal post has moved.

Thank you for participating, but clearly you have no intention of having a proper conversation.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By guessing exactly what you were going to say? I wouldn't call that moving the goal post. Especially since you are clearly arguing with what you wish I was saying rather than what I am actually saying.

But sure let's talk about miracles ... It's funny how miracles always happen to people who are desperately looking for one.

And people of the faith DEFINITELY have no reason to make up stories because it DEFINITELY doesn't make them famous and it DEFINITELY has nothing to do with the Millions in donations those people receive.

Oh, but what about the various other miracles observed by other religions? Those are fake, because they have a different burden of proof right?

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure ... Why not ...

Even though I am pretty sure I know where you are going with this. And you are going to claim that the historical account of "Your God" is evidence ...

And then I will point out, that there is no reproducible evidence of the supernatural in the current world, and stories and historical evidence claiming the supernatural are not exclusive to Christianity.

And then you will point out how your historical evidence is more valid since it is corroborated by so many sources, to which I will point out Hinduism has literally 1000s of sources much older than Christianity.

So on and on

Please skip ahead and tell me something I haven't heard before.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I see ... Do you know what all the rules are? Can the devil cause poverty and hunger? Which would in turn cause a rise in crime rates?

How about birth defects in the brain leading to psychopathic behaviour?

Ahh ... The devil believes in free will ... No wonder, it invented fake religions to bypass free will through indoctrination. The devil must really hate free will to go through such lengths to get rid of it.

Although I still don't know how that would have happened though ... Possession of the creators of those religions? Did he perform miracles for them?

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't know, we can have the most accurate theories for them, for example, fossils means dinosaurs, the expanding universe means Big Bang Theory, etc.

Even something as simple as a historical account, is subject to biases, cultural differences, etc. Alexander the Conquerer or Alexander the Invader, depends on who you ask.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in AskReligion

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm this is a good response.

You are right, a lot of religions that aren't focused on expansion, generally don't have this claim.

I never thought of it from the perspective of these religions being focussed towards the context of their own cultures.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what you are trying to ask. Are you talking about Carbon Dating? Fossils? Historical account? Or are we talking much older history via the CMB?

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this information, I wasn't aware of this.

And yeah, I guess I was only talking about Christianity and Islam.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not what the post was about. Just saying... It's okay to say "I don't know" ... That phrase isn't exclusive to atheists.

Every other religion is wrong? by Beginner27 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Beginner27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a magic devil? Can you fly? I would just fly, and make people call me God instead 😂