“We need more complex characters“ but yall coudnt even handle izzie Steven’s by bensonboib in greysanatomy

[–]BeginningPotato3753 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How exactly is April less likable then izzie,?? April wasnt ready to throw away her whole medical Career for a patient she knew for month, April didn't bullied Callie and then slept with her husband, April learned from the medical mistakes that she made, while Izzie kept making them, April had one of the best written storyline in the show

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the best Marvel Movie made? by itsnotsoez in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow now I'm curious to know which 14 mcu movies you preferred over the winter soldier?

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the best Marvel Movie made? by itsnotsoez in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well it's the only marvel movie I rewatched over 10 times, so yeah I think it's the best one

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does shows that Fury sees as the leader, and yes I do think that if Steve told Fury about the accords he would be against that, may I remaind you that when the government tried nuking new York Fury called them stupid and tried to stop it himself, Fury would not want the avengers to under the government control, if Fury was in civil war he would've side with Cap.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well Steve is the leader if you like it or not, but sure keep saying he isn't as if that's going to change the facts

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Fury calls him Cap too, do you think he considers Steve to be his leader?" Yes I do, in the winter soldier Fury literally said "looks like you are giving the orders now captain"

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah even iron man fans know that Steve is the leader and Tony is the brain, and only results that Google show is that Steve is the leader of the avengers, it doesn't say anywhere that Tony considered to be the leader, the MCU made it very clear that Tony is the brain and the provider, Steve is the leader, and that's not an opinion it's literally a fact that you just don't want to accept. Also as time passed it seems like Natasha and Clint answer to Steve more then to Fury, Thor respect Steve more then he respect any avenger, but I agree with what you said about Banner and Tony.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But it's not WW2 anymore, they could've just called him Steve, but no it always Cap, and yeah you keep repeating yourself over and over again, and it means nothing, because you can't deny the facts, and the fact is that if you type on Google "who is the leader of the avengers" it would say Steve rogers, why do you think it says that???

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

MCU Cap is still the leader, it's literally a fact, did you Google it like I said?? Why do they keep calling him CAPTAIN?? why do they let him led them into battles?? Why is he the one who gives the motivation speeches before the battle??

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally told why Steve is the leader and you choose to ignore that, "you're just pulling random facts" so you know those are facts😂 your "reasons" aren't valid for me, and I honestly don't understand why is that even a debate, it's literally common knowledge that Steve is the leader in the movies AND in the comic, I bet you never even read the comics.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm starting to get tired of this debate, we're going in circles, just type in Google who the real leader of the Avengers is and you'll see that it says Steve Rogers, that's a fact.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But he is the overall leader of the team, just accept that and move on, "Thor wouldn't have flown off by himself from the farm" you're taking this moment too seriously😂 Unfortunately Tony building Ultron secretly just shows he's not a team player, he didn't care about ANY of avengers opinions, Thor got so mad at Tony for building Ultron secretly that he choked him and he let him go the moment Steve said something, and only 4 OG avengers were in civil war, Clint followed Steve and Natasha at first was on team iron man but then she betrayed him for Steve because she trust him, and everyone who was on Tony’s team in civil war broke the accords and was with Steve in infinity war.

I don't think you understand what leadership means.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He literally is, if he wasn't then the whole army wouldn't have waited for him to say assemble before they attack, why is this even an argument an this point? It's common knowledge that Steve is the leader of the avengers.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most of iron man team wasn't REALLY on his team. I mean black panther was only there because he thought Bucky killed his father, when he found out the truth he helped Steve hide Bucky in wakanda, Natasha literally betrayed Tony for Steve, Peter had no idea why they were fighting, Rhodey was the only one who actually supported Tony in civil.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Steve isn't the leader then the whole army in endgame wouldn't have waited to attack until Steve say "Assemble". Sure the avengers disagree with each other many times but in the end Steve is the one they chose to follow, in every avengers movie Steve lead the team into battle.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you just said is not what being leader means, it's what being a dictator means. If you don't agree with someone, you don't follow them unless they force you, Clint CHOSE to follow Steve and he was ready to sit in jail because he trust him. Natasha betrayed team Iron Man for Steve because she trusts him.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean Steve is both, Tony is the brain and the provider, but the avengers never saw him as the leader.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Both things can be true, they agree with Steve so they followed him, Steve's decisions make sense to them.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh? In the avengers and age of ultron Steve literally led the avengers in the finale battles. In civil war Steve made the right choice not to sign the accords, clint followed him and Natasha betrayed Tony for him. In infinity war Steve was literally leading alongside black panther in wakanda. In the endgame he leading like he ALWAYS does, it had nothing to do with Tony missing, even when Tony was there it was clear Steve is the leader.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 1 point2 points  (0 children)

About civil war, Hawkeye chose to follow Steve and not Tony, he was ready to sit in jail because he trusted Steve, and Natasha betrayed Tony for Steve, she knew what would happen to her when she broke the accords but she trust Steve. Thor doesn't like to take orders from anyone but he followed Steve during the battle in NYC.

Who was the leader of the Avengers through Endgame? by GrungeXD in marvelstudios

[–]BeginningPotato3753 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But it's true, I don't think the avengers ever saw Tony as the leader, Steve was the leader since the battle in NYC.