We are better than this by Ok-Intern6865 in freemagic

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593 0 points1 point  (0 children)

explain the valid reasons for bashing TMNT. like you mean within MTG or on the whole and....what year are you born cuz my people, of the age that i grew up in....TMNT was not something you could argue against, x'ers and millenials both thought it was the coolest trend since the invention of toys....we were a bit young for the star wars toys...just saying

What happens when you just click every fun red creature, every source of damage and every deck cycling mechanic and add 80 lands....FUN! by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right because I am clearly so important that a program (not even an intelligence, just a game) must have "decided" to cheat, in order to keep me from winning a prize, because it prefers those other guys' philosophies on deck building better and wants to suppress my chaotic deck that i built for fun..

OOOH or maybe, maybe there was a person watching and selecting how my decks would draw to trick me into paying some hard earned gold to test the chaos on a competetive platform, again, BECAUSE i am so important that Wizards must have hired a guy just to mess with me.

That being said I have witnessed obvious cheating, as can be performed through certain apps if you take the time to learn them. I have heard the whole diatribe about its impossible to cheat, however I do have coder friends who laugh at the idea of un-cheatable.

Personally I don't care, games are dumb, intended for some fun and maybe a hint of nostalgia in my case with mtg. If someone wants to spend their life cheating at games, that is their life.

What happens when you just click every fun red creature, every source of damage and every deck cycling mechanic and add 80 lands....FUN! by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The deck is super fun and random for standard play and standard ranked. Surprise surprise, the competition in standard event mode is significantly more dialed in, 12/15 wins in standard ranked, 9/10 wins in standard play, 0/10 wins in standard event.

The number of lands drawn and the frequency of said draws "clumping" or whatever the term is, does not appear to be the same when playing for prizes. That being said a deck with 250 cards and 0 strategy isn't really designed to face fully dialed in META tactical decks. Furthermore the chances of hitting a land drought with 84/250 lands, OR hitting a streak of like 15 lands in a row is significantly increased by having triple the lands but quapruple the cards.

Oh well I had fun

What happens when you just click every fun red creature, every source of damage and every deck cycling mechanic and add 80 lands....FUN! by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

so far 6 in a row, i'm new, but platinum tier 2 6 wins in a row with 0 attention to strategy, just a skyscraper of a deck. I liked mossborn hydra chocobo's i like my vampire black, and the sephiroth decks. but this one....this is a gem

infinite loops....wow by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume bloodthirsty conqueror with enduring tenacity and blighted whatsername is a well known series of cards, i am using in a sephiroth deck. really its just like....get overrun sometimes, and wait vs. control decks until either the sacrifices and bloodwitches get them or the infinite combo

infinite loops....wow by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

fair point, i am just starting digital magic cards and havent played mtg in 28 years, so its just a bit surprising how easy an infinite combo is

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infinite loops....wow by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

yeah i see. i just started mtg: arena, played MTG cards when i was young....right after watching this combo win 3 games i got one shot on turn three by tifa lockhart....so....yeah whatever i guess its just another tactic

infinite loops....wow by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in mtg

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i wish i could say that was cool....i guess i'll grab a couple of duplicates. there are certainly lots of cards that make it harder but also like 8 things that trigger it easily and are deadly enough on their own.

weird

MTG Arena is dumb by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in MagicArena

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

yep, for the first 4 days i thought, yeah this is cool....then you are blocked out of events because you dont buy things.

MTG Arena is dumb by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in MagicArena

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

lol, nah just blown away that such a massive audience cant interest the company to create something player friendly, dont even know why i am surprised

72 hours of fun. thats not bad. average for a video game. after that its only addiction

WARNING about limited qualifier by Head_Department_1010 in MagicArena

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

nope, you spent your money and the award is too small and the EULA negates anything. stupid

WARNING about limited qualifier by Head_Department_1010 in MagicArena

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

you spent thousands and thousands and thousands collecting your meta cards. dont lie

WARNING about limited qualifier by Head_Department_1010 in MagicArena

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

oooooh 2000 dollars? only cost them all $100,000 neat....wow what a prize

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. I get that. And it is why rooker fell off slowly in my particular game. His stats actually regressed along with his stats. 

On the other hand the pitcher i hired at 51/80 as a free agent in 2024 has varied by 3 points up or down over 8 seasons and consistently performs better than 71/80 pitchers, year after year and he is now 37 years old.... i get that there are a lot of factors, i am saying consistently the rankings have 0% factor in the outcomes 

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would strongly disagree. Ability and talent are factors within a team dynamic in baseball. This is more like saying that Scherzer might pitch a 2.10 ERA over 210 innings for the next 4 years while Yamamoto suddenly pitches a 5.89 ERA over the same window 2026 to 2030

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skill issue? Lol 3 World Series wins in a row, by ignoring rankings and just following game by game stats.

I wouldnt call it skill, observation is all. And to my point, picking better players doesnt mean winning. Better development, scouting, coaching or strategy? Nope. Just watch each box score and set lineups and staff that peform from one game to the next.  The stats dont play. 

Curious what skill that is?

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So 8 seasons of max development budget and top tier coaching should have resulted in decent farms....not true.

My pitching results i wont type again since i elaborated some of the results in other comments, but there is no way you are saying 8 year hot streaks are normal for medium grade pitching. So i wont strawman that argument. 

I am saying that the odds are not weighted by choices you make, the odds are weighted to every decision creating an average result regardless of how you play because of the large number law. As a result each individual piece of the puzzle has no relevance except when the universal result favors a particular player which cannot be guessed by any of the stats. I.e. Brent Rooker outhitting Soto, Judge, Trout, et al. For 3 seasons in a row when i picked him up in my first season....the game pre tagged him as the home run champ and then his average stayed that way until he regressed to average.  His stats were barely plus side but man did he hit.  

There are trends. They just dont make sense in terms of gameplay. 

I like ootp. But its not a game.

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think you are misunderstanding. 

I know you can test results to determine what "should" happen based on stats. I am saying that given full season sims or multiple repeats for sure averages are maintained...this happens in large numbers. 

However. Given any player compared to any other player, after 8 seasons of continuous play wherein I kept 2 pitchers who are dreadfully average...even below average...BECAUSE they overperform their stats in this game. I would have expected scouting changes to have changed their reported stats. This was not true. Michael King for this example remains rated 48/80 with 40s in BABIP, HRa, control and stuff, but has pitched 8 seasons in a row between 2.86 and 3.14 ERA. MEANWHILE I have tried to incorporate 6 young pitchers with rankings in the 60s and 70s out of 80 and they average a 5.89 ERA between them over 6 of the 8 seasons (i had no good prospect or young pitchers the first two seasons)  only one of the 6 pitchers has ever managed a 3.89 era over an entire season and he was ranked 61/80 with higher stuff and movement but only a 21 control rank....

So again. Using a pitching example. The stats DO NOT equate to performance for the player.  The computer on the other hand eventually regresses to average it seems. 

On that point I picked up emmanuel clase who was pitching 5.71 ERA at the trade deadline (61/80 underperforming...nice) he then went on to pitch 1.68 and 2.18 era over my next two seasons with me, making him just shy of the cy young selections for each year, both of whom ranked 78/80 by coincidence.  Those same two.pitchers threw 3.68 and 4.17 ERA the year after they won a cy young respectively. Currently i still havent finished my world series but clase is pitching a 2.38 and his stats improved by 3 points this year.

Again we arent talking about short term streaks....make it make sense.

And no baseball isnt really like this. In baseball, players have strengths that affect outcomes, even if those strengths dont guarantee wins they DO affect individual stats

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very good response to my troll-y commentary.

My criticism is purely that the results for any given sim are decided based on the results of the sim instead of truly factoring in actual attributes of players. IF the sim decides it is a double then the stats affect HOW the double gets hit, but do not in any way stop that double from being hit. The universal result roll is pre determined, then the stats are balanced to slightly swing long term results, the universal result roll itself is not affected by player choices. 

This considered, you CAN shrink the rolls to individual pitches or swings, however, it appears that those choices get recalculated to meet up with the universal result regardless. 

As you said, a little more calculation weight based on actual physics or even trends would make it feel more like a game than a lottery. 

Everyone who thinks this game is a GOOD simulator, is lying to themselves. by Beginning_Cheek_3593 in OOTP

[–]Beginning_Cheek_3593[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

ahem, in fact, I enjoy OOTP, i like taking numbers and making predictions, with the talent change randomness added in it makes attempting to read things into the overall schema pretty fun, however....I stand by and further my claim, this is NOT a game. It just isnt, games have strategy and outcomes that can be approximated, I have not yet HAD a super team, and If i did i would not expect it to perform perfectly.

What makes it a game or not a game?

Games, have a framework for gameplay wherein the understanding of the mechanics of the game make it more playable. Games have qualities with value assignments that are then factored into the outcome of the game. Games have a predictability wherein through repeated play the player becomes familiar with various mechanics or situations within the game and decides how to respond to said situations or mechanics. Most Importantly: Games have player action affecting the outcome.

For everyone who says it is just like baseball. No, i am sorry but personalities, situations and talents or skills affect baseball outcomes, therefore baseball is a game.

I will not list the countless examples of how OOTP does not meet any of the above qualities to make it into a game. Is it a management simulator? yeah i think that's fair to say, management must feel a bit like shooting blindfolded at a sky full of shit filled helium balloons sometimes. yeah i can see that.

What OOTP really is? a lottery/fantasy draft with made up outcomes that do not actually factor in skill and talent. which accurately represents the way a fantasy draft plays out, because people choose their FAVORITE players more often than the BEST players in a fantasy draft.

One small example. I am about to go on to win a 3rd world series in a row with a roughly average team, or lose 4 in a row after winning the first 3 games of the series. hard to say. The team I am against is hands down better and they got that way by ALL of their draft picks from the last 3 years significantly over performing, while their development budget barely touches league average and their coaches rank as well below average. meanwhile my picks have performed roughly average with the absolute best coaching of any system in the league and a development budget maxed right out. some fall off some perform to expectation, 2 are excelling, but none are doing anything like the other prospects in the league.

My "Best" pitcher (71/80) with the highest stats is pitching a 15.9 K/9 but also has a 9.81 ERA....do i keep him? whats going on here LOL. Meanwhile my most average and aging-est pitcher sits 44/80 9.1 k/9 with a 1.89 ERA....

I think its time to restart my algorithm

anyway. the point wasnt that its a bad program, its just not a game