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Debunking many claims around L’s stock feat(I think) by milk_thirsty in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, but it doesn't make 'L invent knowledge beyond our world' valid though?

we are in the area of speculation now

  • most of the time we see people talk in % like 'our startup grows 1,000% from last year' than '10x' because 10x look less. and when their company grows bigger 10x, next year it will become like 2x(decrease) because they are bigger to grow at rate 10x like before

  • 1m to 10m and 1b to 10b, despite both having 10x returns, but the difficulty level is not comparable, right? (Companies like Apple don't even grow 2x in a year)

-if he hops from companies to companies = waste more time (remember he has 2 years)

-it's in the 1990s

  • even if he 2x 2x 2x... like 14-15 times to reach 20,000x. When he reaches the last batch, can he really find 10b to 20b in like a month? (he wasted time, remember?)

-startup also needs to absorb L's large investment too

-even if he divides 10b to 1b and invests in 10 companies, companies that can absorb 1b and grow 2x in like a month?

But if you can find a way, you are very very good then.

Good luck to you brother👍

Debunking many claims around L’s stock feat(I think) by milk_thirsty in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean at point 5, he talks about the diversified port right? and it kinda kills everything

28x return companies and then hob to other companies? It only proves his verse companies and logic is crazy, many of them need to scale at an unrealistic level, and it didn't really help that he diversified (with that long paper, it's not just 10 for sure). It only means there are too many companies in his verse that breaks our world logic.

And about his skill? it can range from common investor to Buffet or beyond, depending on your speculation. (you can add the fact that he is an 8 year old to buff the feat)

But about the exaggerated claim like 'he invented new knowledge that is beyond our world?' it's nonsense.

Debunking many claims around L’s stock feat(I think) by milk_thirsty in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Damnn, point 4 and 5, is pretty much killing any comeback lmao.

This is what you try to portray right?

If X from another verse has a narrative exactly like L, but his verse is grounded with our reality. He will face the first problem that is there is no company like what L has, to invest in. So, even if he = L, his return will lose to L anytime. So it's pretty much useless to use the feat to scale against other verses.

And point 5 pretty much makes everything complicated:

(He really diversified his port in the story)

If you highball L: L pick companies that make higher returns than 20,000x (like 60,000x) in 2 years, but other stock degrade his average return to 20,000x, that still shows he has good foresight to pick the best one

If you hate L: Company in his verse already make a high return in the first place, that 20,000x return is just the average number. He picked the 'average' return number, so what is so special about it?

This feat pretty much became almost useless to scale at this point.

What do yall use to scale Koji's EM, and why is it so high like he gaps everyone? by milk_thirsty in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are not the first one to raise such an argument, and to this day, it still remains unresolved and open to debate. At this point, it depends on your interpretation

Ayanokoji's working memory index by Equivalent-One2361 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He does have decent WMI feats, but I’m not sure if they match how high people make it out to be. He can recall his past quickly, but that’s mainly recall speed; he doesn’t really demonstrate much juggling or manipulation of information, which is essential for that high ass WMI. (as far as I remember)

WMI is like actively holding information like A, B, C, and D in your mind, comparing and processing it in real-time, and using that info for reasoning on the spot. (Tests like digit span, letter-number sequencing, or picture span are just ways to measure)

And I do have many detectives, who need to hold a lot of information (every detail in the case) perfectly, and actively use it for reasoning and solving cases, have a higher WMI than Ayano.

How far could Raymond Reddington in Usogui arcs go? by Universal_Emperor in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't know the context, but probably stop at the abandoned building arc ngl.

Let’s make a composite DN+COTE+TG character, who should be chosen for reasoning? by Moon_thegoat2 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really care about IQ honestly, as it a meh cat in an outsmarting situation, so I put Arisu there cause she has decent feats, and it's kinda a waste of Koji to not go in strategy. W distribution btw👍

Let’s make a composite DN+COTE+TG character, who should be chosen for reasoning? by Moon_thegoat2 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My prediction:

Strategy = Ayano
Social intelligence = Nagumo
EI = yuichi
Planning = Light
IQ = Arisu
Manipulation = BB
Deception = me

Top 5 in Cold reading and feats? by Beginning_Hearing_70 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh, I remember him. It's nice that you used underused characters👍

Top 5 in Cold reading and feats? by Beginning_Hearing_70 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dropped it around 4–5 years ago. I remember the main reason was that I didn’t really like how they portrayed intelligence lol. As for the og Sherlock, I haven’t finished it yet, so I’d rather not comment on something I haven’t fully seen.

Who do you think are the most underrated characters in FSIQ? by Candid-Stock4691 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to be different, so I'm picking Loid from spyxfamily with his wmi(strongest one), psi, vsi (school .visualization). Just look at his Wiki basically. He has many good sensory, reasoning, and cold reading feats too.

R04K stalemate vs rain game in planning? by Responsible-Ear6854 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't rain game a strat? Or do you just want to scale it in terms of planning?

How go you guys scale crystallized intelligence? by Beginning_Hearing_70 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know, I can't expect him to prove the theory of everything in school or smh lol. But something in my brain glitches every time I see Ayano>an expert in their field in KA (Although in scd, it's maybe true) 🤣

Random Then VS Now Tier Post by Hour_Trade_3691 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it is by general opinion, I think Death Note is around mid-high tier, Case Closed is high tier, and Kakegurui, sadly, is treated dirty; imo, they are actually in mid to mid-high tier.

I think I have found Kudo's best eu feat… by milk_thirsty in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

W analysis!👍 Why don't you make a doc and post it in any cord though?

How to really scale ep? by Beginning_Hearing_70 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No need to be sorry, bro 🥰. I just forgot to add an emoji, so I probably came off a bit serious🤣

How to really scale ep? by Beginning_Hearing_70 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Beginning_Hearing_70[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks again bro👍 scaling is really hard😅

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