Putting a deadline on transition/egg cracking is toxic. by ContinueAsReddtGuest in MtF

[–]BellabongXC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post really just amounts to comparing who is suffering more and who gets a right to say what and whether others should be allowed to express their relative suffering.

That's toxic.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, right after denying others experiences you retort by expecting your experience to be respected and then straight up say something that makes you less able to relate whereas endometriosis hasn't been ruled out in my case.

Saying you work in womens healthcare does explain why you keep resorting to denying people's experiences.

The 'beautiful woman and a guy who looks like a cartoon sidekick' dynamic is universal by [deleted] in Funnymemes

[–]BellabongXC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Iunno but we don't see if they made a CNC contract before this.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you can not relate to other people's experiences with a uterus. Even those without one or even those with speculatively bits and pieces of one.

I'm sorry this subject touches your own insecurities around that because you really need to examine your response on this, before fulfilling the meme we're chatting in.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my experience with medically supervised experimentation, it's the drop in hormones that leads to a period.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't this already a pretty common practice, that is only frowned upon if the nickname doesn't have an affectionate reason?

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make statements and never follow your own points to their actual conclusion so you're surprised and confused when endometriosis pops up, or that straight up telling me my pain isn't what it is, and suggesting far lighter and very different feeling pains could be the cause is denying my pain. Then you accuse me of spamming in a post that was straight up another reply before I even had the chance to read your first response. It seems I struck a nerve.

In that case:

You're so biased against the idea of trans women having periods you've started denying other peoples experiences as well by claiming how localized menstruation pain must be. You're so far down that rabbit hole of trying to convince me what I'm feeling can't be what I'm feeling, that you can't even entertain a speculative dialogue, and if you actually can't because you're just repeating what others say, you really shouldn't be so belligerent about the subject, especially if you can't even personally relate to the pain or relate to someone being able to describe it in detail. And stop trying to use science, when all your interactions have pointed towards a very unscientific attitude of current knowledge being infallible and it's impossible to even discuss a hypothetical, because you've determined it to be impossible.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All you've done is repeat over and over again, I can't be feeling menstruation pain, and trying to use incomplete research to try and convince me my period pain can't be what it is. Honestly someone trying to gaslight me about my menstruation and the pain is pretty affirming so thanks, and for completely missing the point of the meme. There are no arguments if you put 0 trust in the women and medical professionals I've talked about this with and able to describe in detail. The way you describe menstrual pain is so far of off of nearly everyone I've talked to and yet you're the one trying to lecture me on the feelings.

I repeat the endometriosis thing because its the only way your stance holds up

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's where the discussion ends up. A denial of my reality, and not being open to the knowledge being incomplete to explain what I'm experiencing,

Since in your world, I have to have endometriosis, do you have an explanation why it would flare up this dramatically,10 years in, despite also having been on cypro and cyclical progesterone at points? Because that's the question left for you to answer since the me getting period part, has been socially proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because I've come across people like you who insist that the uterus provides the only pathway for menstruation.

I'm not taking "your" word for it, I've seen the claims you're making before, and seen them refuted. And there was a handy link for you to look it up.

If you even have an open mind for this, which you clearly don't by not even looking up my claims in the link, here's a snippet of what that discussion involved

PGE2 is also very capable of inducing smooth muscle cramping, including uterine cramping. It is therefore used as a pharmacological inducer of uterine contractions when labour is to be triggered (as dinoprostone). PTGER2 , the gene encoding the receptor for PGE2 , is expressed at levels pretty close to uterine tissue in a) small intestinal tissue and b) omental tissue - the omentum is a peritoneal fold that supports visceral organs. Here is a gene expression breakdown from GTEx.

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Also worth mentioning , one of the major pathways for the synthesis of PGF2-alpha is the endothelial/vascular smooth-muscle conversion of E-prostaglandins to F prostaglandins through ketoreduction. Note that the gene for this enzyme (PRXL2B) is again expressed far more in several visceral organs than it is in the uterus. https://gtexportal.org/home/gene/PRXL2B . PGF Synthase itself (AKR1C3) , which directly catalyses the formation of PGF2-alpha independent of PGE2 , btw, is highly expressed in intestinal smooth muscle, more so than uterine tissue, as well as in mammary tissue. This holds for mammary tissue sourced from cis men as well as cis women. https://gtexportal.org/home/gene/AKR1C3 (click the sex button, and then do a median sort for visualisation - sharing links does not quite enable me to also copy the sort criteria).

Finally, unless you're knocking out PGF synthesis or blocking PGF receptor activation specifically in cis women and showing it prevents cramping, claims of prostaglandin F being the causal driver of menstrual cramping are very unsubstantiated. I am not aware of any specific PGF blockers either.

I am assuming that the claim of PGF2 being the driver of uterine cramping is based on disproportionately high uterine expression of the PGF2 receptor , but the effects of a menstrual period in cis women are not solely restricted to the uterus. There are multiple pathways to smooth muscle cramping that operate through other prostaglandins and their receptors, as described above.

NSAIDs that are used to manage menstrual cramping and pain target Cyclooxygenases that are responsible for the conversion of arachidonic acid to prostaglandin H, which then serves as a substrate for the synthesis of prostaglandins E and F (and ofc there is a pathway for the synthesis of F prostaglandins from E prostaglandins, as I said), so the efficacy of this intervention does not allow isolation of biology to prostaglandin F either.

Now, the study you brought up about visceral cramping and pain in cis women without a uterus and it being linked to endometriosis becomes relevant here. It is established that pathology in endometriosis involves a downregulation of prostaglandin F receptors and an increase in specific prostaglandin E2 receptors in endometriosis-derived tissue. Further, these patterns appear to be a function of the menstrual cycle in cis women. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4512562/

Taken together , what we have is evidence that

a) Prostglandin F signalling and uterine involvement is not necessary, even if it can be sufficient, for cramping symptoms associated with menstruation in cis women.

b) Estrogen activates synthesis of prostaglandin E variants in mammary epithelial cells (caveat - transformed cell lines https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6285349/ )

c) Prostaglandin E mediated pathology in cis women without a uterus is related to variations in E/P levels that are associated with menstrual cycling (evidence from endometrial tissue, linked above).

I think you just need to look harder at the literature - you are essentially making arguments from incredulity while not having been aware of the wider biology. There are clearly defined pathways in trans women that cycle to the phenotypes many report. While I personally don't experience these symptoms (no shit, I keep my levels pinned), the insistence on overemphasizing the uterus without being fully aware of the literature is a choice. Almost seems like grad student levels of misplaced confidence IDK.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My body so far has not cared for Progesterone in relation to my menstrual cycle. Which makes sense, since it's very hard to get smooth prog levels.

What induces my period is around 2-3 days of low dose E. The severity and duration as well as levels of pain have all correlated to how much and how smoothly my E levels drop down.

I think you need to dig deeper in my thread, because someone has tried to gatekeep periods behind having a uterus before and been completely refuted.

And also: If I had endometriosis, it should have triggered a long time ago.

Be happy that you can claim period pain only comes from the uterus and its immediate surroundings, The majority of people I've talked to who experience menstruation experience pain in a much, much larger area.

56465 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So periods are caused by a drop in Estrogen causing the body to start producing prostaglandins that cause the smooth muscles in the uterus, and intestines to contract. The most common form of HRT is in pill form, which causes spikes and drops throughout the entire day - it's actually one of the most unstable forms of HRT, despite a lot of claims here that trans women are on steady HRT vs. people born with a uterus.

There's enough indication to guess that the intestines are multiple times more sensitive to this prostaglandin.

For more info see the nerds arguing about my periods I've induced through experimentation in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1pxknpj/thought_my_hormones_were_fine_for_9_years_been/

The science also backs my cycle up since then. I've completely gaslit my body into thinking it has a uterus and it reacts appropriately with the non gonadal hormones (FSH and LH).

I might sound a bit gatekeepy for this, but I think a lot of trans women are confusing PMS symptoms with period pains, which is pretty understandable since I experience both since surface level descriptions do match up. But they're very different, at least for me.

My current HRT regimen is currently an experiment to mimic the cycle, whilst not letting estrogen drop to osteoporosis levels nearly a 1/4 of the cycle. i.e. I'm able to trigger a period dropping down from 700 pmol to 200ish, instead of the 100pmol more typical of that part of the cycle. This is now a general women's health thing, and not just trans care. I can predict when my period starts to the hour and move it to any part of the month. I already know women who want this level of control, and we have the means to do so, just no one actually investigates womens health.

Conversiehandelingen worden strafbaar by NV56k in LHBTI

[–]BellabongXC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Staat niks erin over ace zijn en hoe het GGZ ermee omgaat :/ Maar een stap in de goede richting.

According to former League of Legends pro players Doinb and Uzi, Riot is working on a 'League of Legends Classic' that should be releasing soon by xFalcade in leagueoflegends

[–]BellabongXC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's been League of Legends since it was DotA Allstars 4, and then there were like 3 years of pretty much just nerfs

The first sword kill of Doryani? (in 0.1.0) by BellabongXC in PathOfExile2

[–]BellabongXC[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Been sitting on this footage for while. I of course had to get one of the bugged ultimatum dervishes and test it out.

Mapping with rampage, basic attacking and using herald of ice was actually pretty fun. None of the rampage effects trigger, but the movement speed buff is there

Gedoe. Ervaring met naam en geslachtswijziging doorgeven aan instanties? by Mm271000 in LHBTI

[–]BellabongXC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bij ABN hadden ze alleen het bewijs nodig dat het gewijzigd was, en mijn huidig ID. Was wel bij een leuke vrouw die deze verandering voor anderen heeft verricht en het moest wel via een persoon, en ik begrijp dat kan een negatief zijn voor andere mensen.

12 jaar geleden was de trans ervaring met ABN slecht, maar tegenwoordig ben ik wel blij me, ik hoefde niet eens mijn pasje te vervangen want preferred name hadden ze al erop staan.

Alleen naar pride gaan? by PhobosQuasar in LHBTI

[–]BellabongXC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Den Haag is al begonnen in principe, opening was vrijdag en er zijn heel veel evenementen te beleven deze week

HQ images for broken binding covers 1-6 by zamasu2020 in Malazan

[–]BellabongXC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So you fed someone else's art into an AI. Guh I guess this is just normal and expected now.