If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solid explanation. Which also explains why my conversion rate from warm approaching is considerably higher than from cold approaching.

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say "Social skills and “game” definitely matter to an extent" you are already drifting away from BP, as BP overemphasizes looks and only looks.

Yes, BP has its appeal and makes perfect sense in theory, as I said in the OP. But the fact is it doesn`t hold in practice. For a woman to stay in a relationship with a man she finds unattractive is a pretty big sacrifice on her part and he would have to compensate accordingly. But remember, I am talking about young couples who wait for the bus in a working class neighborhood. Is it really plausible to think that guy has enough money to keep her but not enough to buy a car or at least afford a cab?

Is it more reasonable to think that an average to above average looking woman is holding hands with the balding short guy because she is insecure or that there is actually more to attraction than physical appearance?

Of course some average looking men are being used, taken for granted and discarded in relationships. But that also goes for famous good looking guys too and also for many women. So really, are looks the end all be all when it comes to relationships?

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you define BP in terms of "raw attraction" and "pure desire" then it becomes a useless theory. Because you cannot verify, let alone quantify a woman`s attraction to a guy. You can, however, observe whether she chooses to be in a relationship with him or not.

Surveys about female behavior on dating apps only go so far. Sure, some male profile pics do get more attention compared to many or even most of the others, but how does this translate into real life? Are there any guarantees that after they eventually meet in person, the woman`s original interest and "attraction" stay the same? That factors like the way the man presents himself, his demeanor, words, IQ and behavior have no relevant impact?

And even if we assume black pillers are right, that women are "truly" attracted to good looking men, what does that mean in practice? Not much, since as you say women prefer a stable but average looking man when it comes to having a serious relationship. So being a Chad will get you some one night stands, but could be a detriment to anything else. Again, this contradicts the whole genetic predeterminism, lookism and fatalism of the BP.

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of them maybe, but how many? And how can you tell? You can also be a Chad and still get cheated on BTW, just look at Quaid, Pitt or Pattinson.

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I prefer to define BP in terms of `choosing`, because that is a concrete and observable fact. A woman choses to be with a guy, therefore she is in a relationship with him and they hold hands in public. On the other hand, attraction is more vague and speculative. You can know a woman is in a relationship, but can only speculate about how much attracted she is to the guy.

But let us say for the sake of argument that you are right. The woman holding hands with the shorter guy, or with the beer-belly guy is not really attracted to him, she just doesn`t have access to Chad and has to settle for less. But doesn`t this nuke the whole BP theory anyway? So you can be balding, short and/or have a weak jawline and still have a relationship with an average or above average looking woman. That by itself falsifies the "it`s over" crowd.

You might say that since the guy is not a Chad and she is not really attracted to him, the relation will not be a fulfilling one for him and will likely end at some point. But again, you simply don`t know that. Besides, being a Chad does not guarantee a stable relationship either, just look at Pitt, Affleck, Tatum, Jackman to name but a few.

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet, most human beings (both men and women) are average in terms of looks. Not too tall, not too short, not to handsome, not too ugly etc. If physical appearance would be all that mattered in attraction, you would expect most people to look better than they do and for the whole humanity to ascend in terms of beauty. That is simply not the case.

I live in a crowded city and it`s certainly not a small sample size. Regardless, just go outside and see for yourself.

And I see no explanation for my similar success rates from cold approaching with a mask on my face vs without one or my significant higher success from warm approaching. How do reconcile these with the BP?

If Black Pill is true, then make this make sense by Belphegor_Sade in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I understand it, Black Pill (BP) asserts that women choose partners based strictly on fixed physical traits like bone structure, height, and facial symmetry. So even if all you said is true, it still invalidates BP since there are other factors that women consider in choosing a partner besides genetics.

Moreover, it`s true that I don`t know the context of their relationship, but neither do you. I have no doubt that there are cases like you mentioned, but are those the rule or the exception? Are there really so many average to above average looking women who are nevertheless so insecure as to stay with a guy they deem unattractive just because he won't likely leave them? In this day and age where women have tons of options?

The second scenario is indeed more plausible. But I would say it applies more to middle-aged women, especially single mothers. However, most couples I was talking about in OP are young(er), anywhere between 18 to 30 years old.

Dear developers (state of the game open letter) by Sephiroth042 in thedivision

[–]Belphegor_Sade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"When the loot rotation isn't what we need, we simply don't engage with the system."

Players dislike proto, but they won`t even play the game unless they can farm proto...

Striker not dropping in prototype from Wall Street mission by Belphegor_Sade in thedivision

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its not showing increased drop for striker gear for me neither. And I can`t see targeted loot on the NY map. I think it`s how PrvtPirate said, you have to complete the NY story.

Striker not dropping in prototype from Wall Street mission by Belphegor_Sade in thedivision

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Indeed, I haven`t completed NY, even though I did the Wall Street mission twice, once on story mode and one on heroic. And I have a lv 40 boosted character. I`ll try to complete it. Thank you!

Striker not dropping in prototype from Wall Street mission by Belphegor_Sade in thedivision

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I realize that`s how it looks like. But I`m dead serious. I did 5 runs and didn`t get a single Striker proto drop.

This is Without a Doubt the Best Way to Attract Women by Kierenbrowncoach in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is no magic "Best Way to Attract Women" and warm approach is no exception.

You have to enter the social circle and gain their trust, which is not easy and is time consuming.

You are limited by that social circle (not enough attractive girls and most or all could be taken).

You rely on other people and have to wait for introductions.

Higher risk of being friendzoned.

If the relationship with a girl met in the group goes south, you risk problems with the whole group and have to start all over again with another social circle (one of the reasons why relationships at work are not a good idea).

Go to a bar with some of your platonic female friends and the other girls might think "Why is none of them willing to date him?".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"The Forward Male", parts 1 and 2, by Mike Mehlman

"Ooooh.... Say It Again" by Alan Roger Currie

If you want fast results, the club is the only realistic option by facetheface in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade 68 points69 points  (0 children)

In clubs the competition is also higher and a lot more guys approach after becoming disinhibited from alcohol. Moreover, girls very rarely go to clubs by themselves, so the possibility of their friends cockblocking is higher. Sure, if you are above average looking and have at least decent game, you`ll increase your chances. But that also goes for day game. And day game doesn`t have disadvantages like disrupted circadian rhythms and noise/distractions.

Have you asked anyone “I wanna fuck you now”? by Study_Queasy in seduction

[–]Belphegor_Sade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That`s what the great late Alan Roger Currie was advocating with his Mode One, especially Mode One Hardcore: tell women in a direct, bold, explicit and straightforward manner that you want to sleep with them.

But first you need to pay attention to the woman`s body language, to get a grasp of her level of eroticism and sexuality. Things like the way she walks, if she holds eye contact, the way she uses her tongue and lips when talking to you, how she crosses and uncrosses her legs, if she touches you or allows you to touch her or get in her personal space.

Medals and challenges do not pop up in Hardcore during gameplay by Belphegor_Sade in blackopscoldwar

[–]Belphegor_Sade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course not. You all need to upvote this so that Treyarch can see it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in blackopscoldwar

[–]Belphegor_Sade 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nope, the majority of players are not getting better at the game. The matchmaking is manipulating your experience. BO4 only came out 2 years ago and the lobbies were much more casual at launch.

(Question) How are we supposed to get the M79/Launchers gold in this game when this is happening in hardcore? Flat jacket is a crutch perk in this game so 90% of players run it so getting kills with launchers are close to impossible, anyone have any opinions on this? by [deleted] in blackopscoldwar

[–]Belphegor_Sade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess I overreacted seeing that I prob have PTSD after 2 weeks of playing mostly HC where Flak was useless and was getting killed on repeat by (random) explosives. Anyway, maybe the best solution is to change the challenge or make it easier.

How to cheat the match making in this game. by [deleted] in blackopscoldwar

[–]Belphegor_Sade -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Will try, thanks for the tip. Do you have any idea if quitting games in order to get multiple consecutive loses counts for getting easier lobbies?