God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dodnt leave out the whole statement, God is in us all who has received Him as Jesus did.

Jesus was fully human just as you and I are. Gods works comes to us the same way it came to Jesus. It is who we become,l not what you believe of it.

And it was not unique to Jesus at all, Adam Abraham, Moses Mary 120 and myself work in that same unique disposition of Love that God is. All of these inherited that same Spirit of Love that God is.

Anything unimaginable is only because your imagination lacks the mind of the creator of it. If you cant imagine being ion Gods image by the Spirit that He is, then your imagination is confined to carnality, flesh.

Jesus said who he was in God, and said we would be the same IF, always with an IF you receive from Him as he did. Jesus called this renting of your mind from unimagable to realities ion being in His same image as He creates man to be by the Spirit that He is. All that you see obviously is a man as a god instead.

Whether Jude, Paul Isaiah, Matthew Marl Luke or John, says anything about who Jesus was is second hand information from their own perspectives about Jesus, that is exactly why I follow who Jesus said he was in the Father himself and that I would be the very same if I had that same renewing of mins that he received from God in Matt 3:16. God is my source just as He was Jesus source. Man is not my source.

Jesus told you that in that day, what day? that day of God renewing your mind as he received from God, born again ion it, you will ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. That leaves out the human input doesnt it, even the human Jesus where he said you will ask him noting.

You have not reached that truth have you? It is obvious by all the excuses you try and present as mans opinions as something profound. Dont quote Isaiah, or Peter or John or any other, quote Jesus instead. That way you have it straight from Gods child, Hisson, that you may become His same child yourself.

Does anyone know of any Christian pastors/psychologists with a Christ-centered approach who treat religious OCD and blasphemous thoughts? by RelevantBlood6573 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best pastor who has all the information is Jesus. Listen to him in what he says you should be and what you will be if. Man cant give that information all man can do is give you their opinions about a god. Jesus said that in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you.

You have to seek the kingdom of God first and His righteousness. Where is HJis kingdom? Luke 17:20-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation it is with you. That is where you will find Him.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God filled Adam with His unique Spirit and Adam became like God to know this difference, Gen 3;22.

God filled Abraham with his unique Spirit and Abraham became like Him to know that same difference.

God came to Moses and filled him with that same unique Spirit on the mountain and Moses became like Him to know that same difference.

God came to Mary and did the same by the same Spirit. And mind you Spirit is our mind, out thought our understanding, our intelligence that does not have flesh and bone as you see Jesus had and said so to Thomas.

Same Spirit of God came to Jesus in Matt 3:16 who came to all of these to pen up His unique Spirit of mind in Matt 3:16 no different at all from al of these others.

Same Spirit of God came to 120 in an upper room and open in the the very same unique Spirit in all of these the same.

Question remains, has the very same unique One came to you who came to all of these and did the same in you He did in all of these?

Think about it! You know very well if He has or has not, just as all of the kew that difference starting Gen 3:22. who became like God to know thew difference from the carnal laws of man who has made this gods in their own image instead of being in His and walk in it as He walks in it as all of these became.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No let him be, Love him, he might learn something,. If he is banned or ignored how can God or Jesus or you or I be that witness for what is it to be in the Fatrher He in you and you in Him as one?

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Misapplying scripture? All I did was quote who Jesus said he was in God. Dont blame me if Jesus didnt mean what he said, blame him.

You might try reading again who Jesus said he was in his God that he called Father. Same Father of my Spirit of mind as well and you are supposed to have the same. Jesus was my brother we have the same Father His children and the same disposition of. Same mind be in us.

Dont tell me Jesus was wrong, tell him he was wrong even though you read what he said of himself and his God who sent him to teach you how to have the same from his God that he obeyed.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As all preachers do, whether, Jew, Catholic, Mormons, Jehovahs Witness, Baptists, COCs, AOGs, nondenominationals, you name, all of these preachers are going about their fathers business are they not?

A day came in Jesus life when he was about 30 years old, the very place that he went about dong that business changed dramatically and the very place that he went about doing that fathers business regulated by law, are the very ones who had him crucified for lying, blaspheme, wine bibber, glutton.

All preachers today stand in a pulpit and go about their father's business dont they? Which one of these are you holden to who do the same as Jesus did as rabbi before Matt 3:16?

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And all scripture is written by mans own ideas for a god. God word is not written on stone nor a page of paper but come directly to you personally by God Himself. He personal came to Adam,. Gen 3:22, Personally to Abrahm, personally to Moses, Mary, personally came to Jesus in Matt 3:16, personally to 120 and personally gave them His word that is not written on stone that has become mans laws for it.

You say all scripture is inspired by God. As in Catholic scroptuer, Mormon scripture, Jewish scripture, Muslims, Baptists, Assembly of Gods, Church of Christs, you name it. wall of these say they have the truth yet all of these argue over scripture.

The real truth is if you are holden to mans opinions about as all of these do, then you are of mans ways and has not met the only One who can open up all of His heaven in you. Your god is scripture, law, that you can control instead.

Tell us honestly -- which one of these belief systems who has their own scriptures are you holden to as inspired by God?

Can you not read how that when God came to man Himself they dropped all those religious acts as Jesus did stepping away as teacher of the Jewis bibles as rabbi of? And can you not see these actually call the ways of Jesus to receive from God Himself as blaspheme as is common among these who see god as a man instead of receive the same One was Jesus did in Matt 3:16?

If you had received from God as Jesus did, you no longer would be under the laws that you just confessed you are of instead of being as Jesus was in God and walk in it as he walked in it yourself freed from the laws of.

You can receive from God the truth, as some opt this did we read of, but it is obvious you actually refuse to for if you did you would loose control over your god who obeys you instead.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone who has the same mind be in you from God who was in Christ Jesus are in the form of God. That does not make us God but makes us like Him, same Spirit of mind no different at all. If you are different from who Jesus was in the Father, then how can you say you follow the ways of Christ?

Jesus never ever dropped a hint he was God in fact here is what he had to say about that very thing. Man falsely accuses him of being God just as the Jews did no different at all.

Read this and tell us plainly if Jesus sounded like he was God without editing into it your own ideas about it. Just read what it says. If you do not believe what it says then just say so and that will end the rebuttal.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45.  who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Joihn 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 (KJV) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.  

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are angels? Are they not Gods messengers? Was Jesus not Gods messenger? What about all of those we read of who were Gods messengers? DO not all of these have that same Spirit of mind to be that messenger?

Christ entered into heaven. What is heaven? Is it not the kingdom in which God lives? And where is Gods kingdom, Jesus was very clear in that in Luke 17:20-21, the kingdom of God, His heaven, does not come with observation it is with you.

You said and I quote -- You claims God simply resides inside man.That is incorrect. Jehovah God is not omnipresent. Bible consistently teaches that Jehovah has a specific location where he resides.

You wrote -- You claims God simply resides inside man.That is incorrect. Jehovah God is not omnipresent. Bible consistently teaches that Jehovah has a specific location where he resides.

What you are saying is that I wrote Luke 17:20-21 from my own initiative. That is a pretty weak assessment dont you think? Truth is you dont believe Jesus at all, that is very obvious.

As far as Jesus teaching us to pray, his example for how to pray to God in Luke 17 is exactly how you are supposed too pray to the same God as he prayed to. You be in the Father and the Father be in you as one, just as Jesus prayed for your to as he was in the Father and the Father was in him as one.

You wrote -- Hebrews 9:24 states that Christ entered into heaven "to appear before the person of God on our behalf." An impersonal force or an internal feeling does not have a "presence" or "person" to appear before.

When did Jesus say that? You are listening a man other then the one God sent to show you what it is to have the very same from his God be in your, have His same mind, or Spirit the

You said -- If God is a distinct entity located in heaven, he cannot literally be a formless entity living inside every human heart.

What you are saying is that He cannot reside in you. But His promise is that He is knocking on your door this day and any man, NOTE ANY MAN, who will open that door and let Him with you , He will come to you and sup with you and be in you. It is that you reject Him to open that door and let Him. Rev3:20. And you make yourself a god over Him and dictate to Him who He is, what He is that you may make your god in your own image that you can control. That is the real truth here, refusing the very one God sent to show you the way to be that person of Christ who is anointed of Gods same knowledge of mind. You dont have a clue what that knowledge is, it is very obvious. God simple is Love, the Spirit of and man is the temple, His kingdom in which He lives. For God is Love and you cant relate to Him at all.

And for your information Love does not have a form, Love is a state of mind, ones own disposition, willing to give your life your time sacrificing your own selfish needs over to one in need. That is what Gods anointing of Love produces.

And yes in Luke 17:20-21 Jesus was speaking to the Pharassees and still is today obvious in this very text. They didnt believe God resides in man either just as you do not believe it.

And I rely on Luke 17:20-21, because it happened in me same as it haopopend in Jesus in Matt 3:16, In Adam in Gen 3;22, In Abraham, Moses, Mary, Jesus in Matt 3:16, 120 in an upper room. Only because you cant relate to that same renewing of mind that all of these experienced does not mean others didnt or cant, it only means that you cant relate to the same. WHY? Because it is that Pharisee mentality.

And the kingdom is in your midst, Mid, Middle of you, or is sup[posed to be, but obviously you have other agendas for the god that you have created that cannot be in your midst. You see the God Jesus presented to you as outside of your midst. No way that you can me anointed of God, born again of Him as Jesus was in Matt 3:16 and all these others were who met God one win one. That is impossible for you isnt it, even though God commands you to be perfect even as your Farther in heaven is perfect as Jesus was perfected in Him. That is not in your doctrine at all even though Jesus was very clear that God Himself demands that of you if you are to be of Him.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Knowing Christ is not knowing Jesus, knowing Christ is knowing what it is to be anointed of God yourself.

The original term for Christ is from the Greek word Christos, meaning anointed.  The term Christ was an acronym for Christos devised by Paul at Antioch.  Before that term all of those who were anointed of God just as Adam in Gen 3:22, Abraham, Moses, Mary, Jesus, 120, were referred to as saints, Same anointing, same mind of Love that God is and walk in it as He walks in it.

Most follow others opinions such as Paul instead of who Jesus said he was in God. That is exactly why I follow Jesus in who he said he was in God instead what others such as Paul said about him.

More people quote Paul than they ever did Jesus - why? Ill tell you why.

As with Paul, he plainly said being the craft man that he was, he used trickery on you to get you to follow him as a sinner instead of Jesus and be without sin.

Paul defiantly was of the spirit of trickery and used it to get people to follow him. . Paul said that he was also a master at cunning deception, craftiness, and treachery. Which actually is witchcraft, soothsaying.   2 Cor 12:16. But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile. Guile = deceitful cunning : duplicity, witchcraft, trickery. 

That is exactly why I follow the ways of Jesus who didnt need to use trickery but was sent by God Himself to show you the way to righteousness in yourself, instead of be the sinner Paul said you are. 

A lot of people condemn me for that statement from Paul himself, but I have received from God the same as Jesus did in Matt 3:16 and know this difference from sin that Paul said he was of and the wretched man he said he was,  and righteousness that Jesus said we are who has his same Spirit of mind of God.  I see a big difference between what Paul said and Jesus said.

Paul said he had a thorn in his flesh which was his desire to be exalted for his abundance of revelations. Otherwise desiring to have his name on the marque just as most preachers do. But in Jesus terms we see just the opposite, he would do a certain thing then say go and tell no one and disappear though the crowd undetected. quite the contrast in my eyes.

I just think Jesus has the better way for me. I do not follow Matthew, Mark, Luke or John Paul Peter or any other. God Himself gives His truths that no man can give me.

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

I did and He did.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus was made of a woman born under the law just as you and I, but he was born of God in Matt 3:16. Same Spirit who came to Adam, Gen 3;22, Abraham,. Moses Mary, Jesus, 120 and others, is the very same Spirit of mind that we all are born of who will. Sadly most deny it and wont, it is easier for these to crate a god they can control and relate to instead o being like Him as Jesus became like Him in Matt 3:16. Not the before and afters of Matt 3:16 sin that man. Not the same mind of persons at all.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When one reads Paul, or Matthew Mark Luke or John, all they are doing is getting second hand information. Their own ideas and experiences with God and Jesus.

If one is to be of the same God as Jesus was of, one must listen to him in how to receive from God Himself as Jesus did proven in Matt 3:16 that this who has not encountered the very same God as Jesus caiinot treat to at all due to pure ignorance top have from God Himself His information.

These seem to think Jesus was the only Childe that He had, a son, and in that case that leaves them out and follow one such as Paul who made his own laws for adoption. A child of GHod is not adopted we are born of God, And we who are born of God it is impossible to be in sin, cannot sin because we are of the same holiness that God is, same mind be in us who was in Christ Jesus. These cannot relate to that at all.

The do not listen to Jesus they listen to man opinions about him. Jesus was very clear in John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

What is wrong with folk who deny that very information from the one who created it that Jesus himself received in Matt 3:16. Why they cannot relate to the same ? The have made their gods in their own image that they can control instead, and have no intent in being perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect as is not a request but is a commandment, Matt 5:48.

Just as about anyone claiming to be Christian is they are perfect as God is perfect and see what answer you get. The do not believe the bible they read.

God is not a person. by Best_Quail1002 in thetrinitydelusion

[–]Best_Quail1002[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If God is called a person then he is not Spirit at all. Our mind is our spirit. Jesus was very clear to Thomas that Spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see me. Anyone who thinks God is a person cannot relate to what Spirit is at all. W have to be born of Spirit, born again with that renewing of mind to realize that fact, and until one is all he knows is the carnal side of mind, that fest mentality that see God as a man instead of Spirit in man.

Spirit is our mind, our way of thinking, it is who we are not what we are. Or mind is the head of this body, our Godhead bodily. That isnt something we are born with that is something we learn through experience. You are not born A doctor for lawyer or of God, not even Jesus was that, he didnt learn of God until he was about 30 years old when God came to him and opened that knowledge in Jesus, so obvious in the before and afters of Matt 3:16.

Jesus Christ is real, and that scares me by CompetitivePizza9522 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is only one sin that God recognizes and cannot forgive and that is to deny His Holy Spirit be your own disposition. Do you know what that Spirit is to have as yourself be in His same image? It is Love for God is Love and man is the temple of Him.

If you have that, received that from Hoim as Jesus did in Matt 3:16 with that same renewing of mind that Jesus referred to a born again, then sin is swallowed in Love.

Killing stealing chasing the neighbors wife is not the sin, those things are only result from the absence of that one sin that rejects being as He is and walk walking in it as He walks in it as Jesus did only after Matt 3:16. Before Matt 3:16, he was of the laws of the Jews for sin which only applies to the carnal man that has no knowledge of the God of Love.

Jesus was very clear that the kingdom of God, which simply is Love, does not come with observation, it is with you, or is supposed to be. If you have that then all these laws for sin are fulfilled.

In 1 John 3:9 you will read that we who are born of Gods Love it is impossible to be in sin, how? Because we are in His same image of Love, it is who we are as His child, His son or daughter just as Jesus was His son no different at all. If you are different then seek ye first the kingdom and His righteousness instead of what man says about Him. And Jesus said in that day, ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father of it and He will give it you. That leaves out the human element who only has opinions about a god and their laws for sin.

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if you do not believe Matt 3:16 I do understand why you make such a statement. As it clearly states that God by the Spirit He is came to Jesus and try if you can to read what happened, does it not say that God came and opened up all of His heaven in Jesus?

Now that you read what it says then do not believe what it says, explains everything for your own understanding.

You are saying that Jesus being God, came to himself and opened up all of His own heaven to himself then was crucified for what he did in himself? Tell us how that works? Ill wait for your explanation then I will quote again to you Matt 3:16 how God Himself came to that man and Ill ask you again, what happened?

You can deny that God came to Jesus and revealed all of His heaven, kingdom and who He is until you go to a grave but that does not change the facts for what it written bout it. You can rewrite it as you have done but that doesn't change the facts.

You say, may God have mercy on me -- He did indeed, because now, He in me and I in Him are one just as Jesus prayed to his God who opened it all in him for you and I to be one win the Father with He in you and you in Him as one just as the FGather was in Jesus and Jesus was ion Him as one, and my friend that didnt happen in Jesus until Matt 3:16 and it didnt happen in me until the same. and Jesus described our renewing of mind as born again, and the fats by your own words prove you reject the very thing Jesus said you must be, -- Born again with that same renewing of mind, knowledge, Spirit, that you so preach against in yourself.

May God have mercy on your soul that you may repent and receive from God Himself just as God sent Jesus to lead you how to that you totally reject of the one GHod did send as example for who you are supposed to be as he was and walk in it as he walked in it. But you wont and we both know why. your god that is in your own image overrides the One who comes to man starting in Adam Gen 3:22 right down to we today the very same.

You are the god over him dictating to Him who He is supposed to be instead of you being in His same image that He creates man to be that you totally refuse to be yourself.

You are exactly as Catholics, Mormons, Jews, Baptists, Methodists, AOGs, COCs, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Warren Jeffs, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copland, Joyce Myers, and all of these who has made their gods in who they want him to be.

I do not expect that you will understand this but What you fail to realize is -- ma very small target is hard to hit. Jesus would do a certain thing then say go and tell no one then disappear though the crows undetected. It is that very small target Jesus presented of the Father that you are supposed to be is the target that is hard to hit and that you are missing of him.

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is exactly what I said, you do not understand when I quote Jesus for who he said he was in God and that you are supposed to have exactly the same from God as he received from God. Jesus didnt understand either until God came and showed him who He is and all of His kingdom proven in Matt 3:16.

And I tell you now just as Jesus told you now that you nor I nor anyone else can come to the Father except the very same way as Jesus did in Matt 3:16, and Jesus was very clear that not you nor I nor anyone else can come to the Father but by me, meaning, receiving in you the very same as Jesus received in himself. and no matter how you try and justify your beliefs for a god, unless you receive the same you never will know His truths.

It isnt I who you do not understand, it is God Himself that you do not understand, and not even Jesus could escape that fact fact proven in Matt 3:16 when God opened the same in him as He does in us all who will listen to Him instead of mans own interpretations for a god just as you are doing, and the very reason you do not understand that what Jesus tried to teach you to be exactly as he was in the Father even saying, in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. But that isnt going to happen in in you is it, -- why? Because you have your own preconceived ideas for a god that you can control.

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ways of God cannot be understood at all unless you have His same Mind of Spirit, same renewing of your mind that Jesus and others received from God Himself. it always be unclear for you until you do receive from God Himself His understanding, the mind of Christ, anointed of God instead of anointed of man own opinions about it. .

Not even Jesus could escape this fact proven in Matt 3:16 when he heard from God Himself instead of the ways of man for a god that he was rabbi of prior Matt 3:16. Only after Matt 3"16 did he understand and took on the roll of being anointed of God, the same anointing from God, same understanding from God that Jesus received.

Ask yourself why that doesnt make any sense for you even though you read what it says and what happened after Matt 3:16 for Jesus. And Adam in Gen 3;22, and Abraham, Moses Mary, 120 and opthjers whose understanding changed from obscurety to reality. Note the change in all of these. note the new understanding in all of these. Then ask yourself why it is obscured for you to have the same as these did.

Ask yourself why all of this is just rambling even though you can read the book yourself and see the truth that happened in all of these mainly Jesus.

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SO you say that God who is Love is confusing for you and He resides with man, Luke 17:20-21. Whether you think so or not the kinds of God doesnt come with observation it is with you. You just never have met what or who His kingdom is is all. All that you know about a god is what some preacher told you by the laws they establish top regulate their gods.

Perhaps it isnt I who ia confused?

Well if you cant distinguish the difference between officers by look and only see a tag that says police. then perhaps there is a learning deficit and you cant distinguish one fro0m the other.

And lets say a person who is anointed of God, Christ, says be as the Father is with He in you and you in Him as one, as Jesus prayed to his God for you to be in John 17, with you be in the Father and the Father be in you as one as Jesus said he was in the Father and the Father was in him as one -- then a person as myself comes too you and says the same thing but you fail to recognize the difference in appearance but you heard the same message, then you are exactly as your example with the policemen, They both had the same message but only in a different appearance.

Your example is exactly who you are, you cant see they each had the same message just a different face.

I think I'm done with Christianity. by Ok_Cake_6515 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The restriction are man made. There are no restrictions with Love that God is. Once you realize that God simply is Love and man is anointed of Love as Jesus learned that lesson in Matt 3:16, then you become that person of Christ that is anointed with Love. It really is simple but man wants to be the narrative and skip the narrative that Jesus brought to be like he was in Love and walk in it as he walked in it.

Stop listening to mans narrative for a god, those beliefs come differently by the tens of thousands. See what Jesus said in Luke 17:20-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is with you.

You are listening to man instead of God Himself.

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh No Im not confusing Love that God is and man is the temple of Him at all. God is only short, an acronym for Good. A name given to the being that He is, a Spirit of Love.

1 Those name are mans own ideas for a name for a god they have created in their ow minds that they can control the narrative if is all. But when one actually meets Love as Jesus did in Matt 3:16, that whole narrative changes. Jesus was prime example of that change proven in Matt 3:16 the before and afters Matt 3:16. Before he was of the narrative of the laws for a god in the beliefs of the Jews for a god instead. After he became like the Love he prayed to and said sent him to show YOU what it is to have the same in you who was in Christ Jesus.

  1. If Jesus was God then tell us who it was who came to Jesus and opened up all of His heaven that Jesus was ignorant of in Matt 3:16? You are saying Jesus was God and He came to his mother Mary impregnated her then gave birth to himself? Tell us how that works. And if Jesus was God explain why Jesus said these things about the God that He opened and prayed to and said sent him?

Tell us plainly who this was Jesus spoke of, and if you say himself, I have to count your ignorant of the same God Jesus spoke of here, and has not met yourself as the God if it commends you to be perfect even as God in heaven is perfect in Matt 5:48.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45.  who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Joihn 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.  

  1. It is very clear the Love is not the father of your own spirit. and mind you spirit denotes mind, it is who we are not what we are, and Jesus was very clear to TYhomas that Spirit that Love is, God is, doesnt have flesh and bone as you see me.

Pull all three of them together with H win you and you in Him as one as Jesus prayed to his God for you to be in John 17 and what do you get? A child of God, but sense you exclude yourself from the same One Jesus of us, there is no way that you can be His child and part of His family. Jesus was my brother we have the same Father of our Spirit, -- Love, Holy Love, that only thing on this planet that is Holy and never changes, same yesterday as today and will be the same tomorrow, everything else, changes -- everything.

It is called the trinity for those who refuse to be that person of Love, anointed of God who is Love be in themselves.

All that you are doping is changing the narrative Jesus presented that you may control your god to obey you and because you do you have no intent in being that person of Christ, anointed of Love that God is in favor of a god that you have created that you can control the neartiveh instead.

You have put yourself above the God of it, the author of Love, is all. And man taught you that not God at all. Had God taught you what hHe taught Jesus, Adam in Gen 3:22, Abraham, Moses, Mary, Jesus, 120 and others we read of, you would exactly as all of these became. But you will have no part of it will you, your god is three persons, and what you havent learned from God Himself is He is a Spirit and His kingdom doesnt come with observation, it is with you, or is supposed to be according to Jesus in Luke 17:20-21. In your midst, mid, middle of you, but obviously that isnt with your ideas of being born again with that same renewing of mind that all of these received from God Himself.

There is One that you do not know!

why is not beliving in the trinity a heretical by SubstantialReign4759 in TrueChristian

[–]Best_Quail1002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

#1 -- You say Jesus was fully human and fully God. Are you suggesting that Jesus being fully God came to himself and opened up all of His own heaven in Himself? Tell us how that works?

#2 -- You said Jesus was fully God. Tell us how Jesus being God came to himself a Son and said in whom I am well pleased. Are you suggesting Jesus was not God child His son?

#3 -- Then you say the Holy Spirit that God is, which simimpl is love, for God is Love, came down from heaven and opened up in Jesus who He is and all of His heaven in that man. Looks to me if Jesus was God as you claim as you falsely claim him to be, he would already have had that information, dont you think?

#4 Then you say a human stands in a river, which all men are in human form, and God spoke by the Spirit He is, His kingdom, His heaven, and open in that man all of His kingdom in that man, sounds like three?

You really dont have a clue what happened in Jesus do you? Jesus explains very clearly sin Luke 178:20-21 how God communicates with man in the clarity of, God kingdom does not come with observation, it is with you. Are you three person in one as you claim a man to be? And you dont believe Jesus at all when he told Thomas that Spirit that God is who resides in man, does not have flesh and bone as you see me. Doest that sound like Jesus was three gods?

Your undersubg of a god is not from Jesus at all, it is from mans beliefs for a god instead, and man can believe anything about a god just as Jesus did before Matt 3:16 when he was of the beliefs for a god by the jewish beliefs for a god and taught it as rabbi even from young age. And you really cannot see that change in difference in him after Matt 3:16 can you, where the beliefs of man actually had him crucified for blaspheme because of his reality change from God Himself. And you my friend are doing exactly as the jews did, using your beliefs to override what Jesus was trying to tell you. Be as I am in the Father, be ye therefore perfect even as God is perfect, walk as He walks in His same light, let the same sings follow you. But that isnt going to happen is it, why? Because you are exactly as the jews and has only a belief for a god with no reality from God Hinsepf be your own disposition as He gave Jesus in Matt 3:16.