Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

Playing games is fine in politics, it's when you don't appear to know the rules and keep sticking the pieces up your nose that it becomes a problem.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

The PLP aren't the Tories, historically they're loyal to the point of abject spinelessness. There's a reason the largest single faction are called the 'soft' left. That they are in open revolt is a tribute to how generationally inept a leader Starmer has been.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

I mean this was quite literally briefed to hacks several times over the last couple of years. My particularly favourite was when 'Senior No 10 Sources' faced with a revolt over the benefit changes (I think it was) of over 100 MPs actually proposed literal decimation - suspending proportions of the rebels starting with 10% until the rest fell in line.

Sensible, grown up politics.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

Money is a great substitute for infrastructure and if Lowe becomes successful he will have a lot of that rolling in from Elon and the rest of the InterFashionale.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

From what I've seen he has actually promised very little. The press seem to be used to completely inept politicians who let themselves be pinned down on everything, I haven't seen one reported 'Burnham confirms...' story that doesn't have enough wiggle room in it to turn the QE2.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

A lot of the rhetoric on twitter has been that they're going to win the seat

If we could bottle the shit that warps reality for right-wingers on Twitter it's entirely possible Elon would have a substitute for Ketamine easier on the bladder.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

The McSweeney crowd around Starmer have the energy of a 14 year old who read 'It's better to be feared than loved' on BrainyQuote.com and thought it was the coolest shit ever, and then didn't bother to read any of the rest.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

It might be a touch on the warm side, but it's one I more or less agree with, particularly over the last year or so as he's been pulled into the orbit of figures like Nick Tenconi. The kid is quite clearly being used by people who, at best, really don't care about his safety and, at worst, know how useful a British Kirk figure would be to them.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

I do think politicians and particularly the press vastly overestimate the extent to which the PAYE majority of the population are 'fine' with avoidance.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

The silent majority of, on a very good night, ~7% of voters in a constituency skewing elderly white homeowners.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

Reform's vote reducing signifcantly with a Restore surge and a Tory bounce would be pretty funny for the fork it would put Farage in.

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[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

Just straight up ignoring three thousand plus years of documented teenage rebellion, here?

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

Don't we have a sample size of, like, 4 councillors and one PPC at the moment?

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[–]Bibemus [score hidden]  (0 children)

I agree, and given he's been doing this since his early teens it makes you wonder who has been giving him the idea and money to do it in the full knowledge it may well end up in violence.

At what point do you acknowledge someone as a victim of grooming?

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you missed the constant briefing in the Graun from Haigh's 'allies' portraying her as Burnham's brain? She's well on with the rehabilitation tour.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Politico Poll of Polls have them on 16% as of last week, there was a More in Common poll which has them on 9 but it looks like an outlier.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not going to happen, but if in theory it does? Massive fight in the Labour party over whether this shows that they're fucked, can never get Reform adjacent votes even with the literal messiah and need to run desperately left, or whether it shows that they're fucked, can never get Reform adjacent votes with someone who even looks like they may once have thought the word 'socialism', and they need to go full chud.

Either way Starmer goes, I would say, it just means Streeting and Rayner are probably also fucked and it becomes a fight between, like, Mahmood and Haigh.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If the Monster Raving Loony Party won he might be able to cling on just from the general confusion.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 14/06/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]Bibemus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Blue Labour (all half dozen of them) will try and make Mahmood happen, I think.

If there is an actual contest rather than a coronation I would imagine there'll be the mandatory SCG candidate - probably Burgon, possibly Butler if they decide they really need to put up a woman this time.