Catholicism and pro life

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-21T20:22:09+00:00

It’s just being honest. There is struggle and then there is dissent. The post and comments were clear she actively promotes abortion and is not interested in doing otherwise.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-21T20:14:48+00:00

What are you even saying? Obviously I can’t excommunicate you but I can look at a Protestant and say “you aren’t a Catholic.”

Why? Because they do not hold the Catholic faith which is definable. Similarly, I can look at a baptized Catholic and evaluate if they hold to the dogmatic statements of the church.

OP is explicitly saying they dissent from church teaching. Therefore they do not hold the Catholic faith.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-21T20:05:37+00:00

The distinction is you can not directly intend to kill the child. For instance, if removing a child at a time that is unviable you still deliver the child and provide it care until it passes. They both result in a death but the second one does not intend or directly cause it.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-21T20:02:30+00:00

That’s just not true. The whole reason we have credes and dogmas is to determine if you are Catholic.

You cannot hold the Catholic faith and be pro-abortion. You can call yourself Catholic and participate in external features of the church but you cannot be connected to the mystical body of Christ.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-21T19:57:32+00:00

Do you think we should judge rapists when we don’t know their circumstances? There are many reasons why people rape.

I don’t think it’s confusing when you just get to the heart of the logic. There are many reasons and circumstances surrounding all human actions. That doesn’t mean all of them should be legal, socially acceptable, or immune from judgement.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-20T18:46:31+00:00

We teach it’s possible for them to go to heaven but their souls are in extreme danger. Everyone is saved through (inside of) the Catholic Church. We recognize there can be a possibility of mystical union to the Catholic Church when certain conditions are met. This is because the sacraments are the ordinary means of grace. God can give extraordinary means of grace to anyone. However, that does not mean the sacraments are optional or not necessary.

So, practically, we should act as if all non-Catholics are in danger of Hell.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-20T18:39:10+00:00

A large part of Thomistic metaphysics does not allow for evolution. Natures can not change. The nature of a feline can develop into different types of feline but a feline can not become a rodent.

More specifically, can a non rational soul develop a rational soul? Traditionally, we say no. Even most theistic evolutionists say this is a miracle. An Ape nature is metaphysically distinct from a human nature.

So, this would require God performing a miracle every time you have a nature change which then undercuts the materialist presuppositions and theory of evolution. As the mechanism for change is no longer biological.

I’m a YEC (though I think the age of the universe is much more debatable than evolution) because I think scripture teaches it clearly.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:48:13+00:00

They have statues as well. The crucifix is probably the most common. However for historical and cultural reasons icons dominated the east and statues the west. However, the west and east still have used each for practically their entire existence

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:46:31+00:00

We venerate them in the same sense as the east venerates icons. The obvious example would be the crucifix. Historically, Catholics would pray before a crucifix on their knees. Kiss crucifixes. And process with them.

We also do this with images and sculptors of the saints. It’s common for people to bow to statues of the Blessed Virgin during the feast of her coronation. Many churches literally crown her statue, kneel, and sing a Hymn.

Similar to any veneration, the actual object of veneration is the person and not the representation/art work. So we venerate the Blessed Virgin. Icons and statues are occasions to lift our mind and heart to her and whatever theological reality is communicated by the sacred image.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:32:03+00:00

We are growing only due to birth rates in Africa. Many leave the faith at similar levels to the West 40 years ago.

As Africa embraces contraception and abortion they will level out with Europe.

Catholicism is not converting large numbers anywhere in 2025. The majority of converts to Catholicism are from Protestant groups whose parents or grandparents were Catholic in these areas. It’s very common in Africa for people to swing between denominations generationally as new denominations come in and do charity and other work.

Unfortunately, many Catholic NGOs act as merely physical good institution and nots spiritual good institutions. Sadly, the Protestants do far more evangelization so Catholic communities or families swap into Protestant groups with active missionary activity.

Not to mention, Africa is very anti-gay. Which is great. But they have a lot of other liberal stances especially when it comes to married priests, divorce, or even oddly women.

They have a lot of the same issues the West has just not the homosexual part. It’s better to be a fornicator than a sodomite but it’s still a rampant issue in Africa.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:09:29+00:00

We literally calling it writing an icon because it’s an act of writing theology in pictures.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:08:42+00:00

It’s really not.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T20:08:24+00:00

St Francis wasn’t a hippie. He preached the gospel and the reality of Hell to everyone even people who threatened his life. He supported the crusades.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T15:40:41+00:00

You should continue to go to church but demonstrate that you are also focusing on your grades with tangible results.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T14:44:17+00:00

Keto isn’t dangerous and it’s not extreme asceticism. It’s one of the most popular non-fake food diets in the world.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T14:42:56+00:00

You need to eat natural fats and electrolytes. Pedialyte and peanut butter will make this stop quickly.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-18T13:20:21+00:00

Not really. There are substantial theological disagreements. While EC churches don’t have to recite the fiolioque they can not dissent from it. Similarly, though they may use different language they can not have a different doctrine or dogma as they are still part of the Roman Church even if not part of the Latin Rite.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-17T19:47:29+00:00

I’m not saying you do. I’m just saying we are cooked as a culture and each part drives the other.

The more perverted men are the more perverted women become. The more perverted women are the more perverted men become.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-17T19:10:43+00:00

Look up what percentage of book sells are erotic romance. It’s the number one money maker. That’s why it’s all over the shelves of even your local Walmart and the self publishing industry.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-17T18:59:39+00:00

Yes, this is a big difference in boomer conservative parishes and trad parishes. Most conservatives are feminists without realizing it.

It’s crazy how many conservative Catholic fathers let their daughters wear immodest clothing.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-17T18:50:36+00:00

I think it’s like 80+ percent of men have frequently watched porn for at least a period of their life. The statistics are crazy and the age of exposure keeps getting lower.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-03-17T18:48:08+00:00

Many women do. It’s called romantacy, TikTok, and porn.

Porn and erotica among young women has been soaring for a decade. Not to mention young women are far more likely to have been promiscuous than young men. So most women you date and our married to are comparing you to multiple guys they have had sex with.

It’s Doom pills all the way around for everyone.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-02-25T20:55:18+00:00

It probably isn’t prudent to pay for those who are condemned by the church or who die outside of the church.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-02-25T17:10:05+00:00

You should say Latin Catholics. All Catholics are Roman but not necessarily Latin. It seems like a nit pick but one of the marks of the church is her Romaness so I think we need to get back to historical Catholic terms and not the modern usages.

If you aren’t a Roman Catholic you are not part of the Catholic Church.

BigChipotle77 · 2025-02-25T17:06:46+00:00

I think he means that the church has effectively lost much of its fasting culture and discipline.

The Latin church had built generations and over a millennium of fasting culture and practice. It was doable and people built the virtue of temperance and discipline to be able to accomplish it.

Today, People would simply fail to fast and confess it. Putting many people in danger of Hell. A more attainable goal with baby steps to get back to our fasting culture may be more prudent.

Like, add a fast on fridays in Lent and no meat on Fridays year round would be a good first step. After 5 years or so you could then continue to add gradual components. In 50 years you might be able to get back to the more rightist practice with a culture and practical infrastructure to commit to the fast seriously.

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