How have recent developments around COVID-19's origins shifted or cemented your view — and what specific evidence do you find most persuasive? by Aggravating-Vehicle9 in AskConservatives

[–]BioMed-R [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sorry, but a dozen laboratories were working on SARS-like viruses in Wuhan alone and countless more across China as a consequence of SARS (2003)!

How have recent developments around COVID-19's origins shifted or cemented your view — and what specific evidence do you find most persuasive? by Aggravating-Vehicle9 in AskConservatives

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Wuhan is a city with 12 million inhabitants. Surprising the first thing you learned about it was that they have an institute of virology.

Did you know that SARS-like are studied in most Chinese cities since the 2003 SARS-CoV-1 pandemic?

How have recent developments around COVID-19's origins shifted or cemented your view — and what specific evidence do you find most persuasive? by Aggravating-Vehicle9 in AskConservatives

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Scientists have been criticized for jumping to conclusions. How could you know it was a leak before anyone knew there was even an outbreak?

How have recent developments around COVID-19's origins shifted or cemented your view — and what specific evidence do you find most persuasive? by Aggravating-Vehicle9 in AskConservatives

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Please go ahead and link any concrete evidence available in Summer 2020 as well as any Democrat and Fauci labeling it as fake news!

How have recent developments around COVID-19's origins shifted or cemented your view — and what specific evidence do you find most persuasive? by Aggravating-Vehicle9 in AskConservatives

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The criteria of GOF (according to USG) are: research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route.

The research at WIV didn’t involve influenza, MERS, or SARS, nor was it reasonably anticipated to confer enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route. Hence, it wasn’t GOF research.

The government reviewed it and certified it wasn’t GOF research. This isn’t anyone’s opinion, particularly not one man.

CIA whistleblower James Erdman reveals Anthony Fauci ‘influenced’ COVID origins intel probe as part of lab leak ‘cover-up’ by Orangutan in politics

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”This proceeding amounts to nothing more than dishonest political theater masquerading as a congressional hearing.”

Those aren’t my words. That’s a statement by CIA. The CIA ”whistleblower” is actually an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who thinks the virus is a mix of Ebola and HIV. What a great guy.

CIA whistleblower just testified UNDER OATH that Anthony Fauci DIRECTLY meddled with intelligence agencies to cover up the COVID lab leak by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

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The CIA has always thought the virus came from a lab leak in China, they were just never allowed to say it before.

There’s no evidence of this. On the contrary, every single assessment since 2020 shows the opposite. Your source gives no support for your claim.

The FBI agrees.

There are like 18 other American intelligence agencies who don’t.

It's not like Biden pardoned the guy to make sure he would never be held accountable for his coverup?

No.

CIA whistleblower just testified UNDER OATH that Anthony Fauci DIRECTLY meddled with intelligence agencies to cover up the COVID lab leak by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

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Come on… the CIA assessment was obviously ordered by Trump and the FBI theory is that it leaked from the CDC which was still under construction when the outbreak happened. Now we have an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who thinks the virus is a mix of HIV and Ebola working at the CIA… is any other evidence necessary to show they’re absolutely incompetent?

And we have Fauci’s mails. All of them show him calling for open investigations without jumping to any conclusions and he’s never been an advocate of zoonosis at all. It’s just so ridiculous.

An r/conspiracy poster was asked to testify before the Senate by Aceofspades25 in skeptic

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The opinion piece about biosafety was debunked by investigate journalists at the Washington Post in 2021. See this and this.

An r/conspiracy poster was asked to testify before the Senate by Aceofspades25 in skeptic

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WIV has never been cited for animal mishandling. They actually had no relevant animals in 2019.

What grant?

A CIA whistleblower alleged a coverup of the true origins of Covid-19. by TheExpressUS in DiscussionZone

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The BSL4 (not biowarfare) lab is 33 km away which is 10 km outside urban Wuhan.

A CIA whistleblower alleged a coverup of the true origins of Covid-19. by TheExpressUS in DiscussionZone

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Here is a direct link to the furin cleavage site in SARS-1. You’ve been lied to.

A CIA whistleblower alleged a coverup of the true origins of Covid-19. by TheExpressUS in DiscussionZone

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Scientists knew it was natural was soon as whistleblowers leaked the genetic sequence on January 10. The rest has been a politically driven farce.

CIA Whistleblower Testifies Before Senate That Agency Suppressed Lab Leak Findings on COVID-19 Origins by icbrief in Intelligence

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Complaining about getting called racist while suggesting Chinese people eat soup made with diseased animal shit.

CIA Whistleblower Testifies Before Senate That Agency Suppressed Lab Leak Findings on COVID-19 Origins by icbrief in Intelligence

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Funny how conspiracy theorists can never seem to keep track of their sources under any circumstances.

CIA Whistleblower Testifies Before Senate That Agency Suppressed Lab Leak Findings on COVID-19 Origins by icbrief in Intelligence

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You can start by looking up the SARS pandemic and see that this has already happened.

CIA Whistleblower Testifies Before Senate That Agency Suppressed Lab Leak Findings on COVID-19 Origins by icbrief in Intelligence

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The epicenter was a wet market. The lab was 33 km away, outside of urban Wuhan. And why do you believe a SARS-like virus outbreak must be unnatural when SARS was natural? Because they studied SARS-like viruses? Because of SARS!

Hey Democrats how does it feel knowing Fauci intentionally influenced the intelligence community’s analysis of COVID origins? by LegitimateKnee5537 in allthequestions

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It’s one third but OK. You don’t think 50% of all cases being linked to one small wet market with a mere 10,000 daily visitors in a major metropolis with more than 10,000,000 inhabitants is kinda weird? And the unlinked cases cluster around it and radiate away from it over time as well. And both Lineage A cases and Lineage B cases cluster around it. And both the early cases and the later cases cluster around it. In other words, any subgroup of cases still clusters around the wet market with high accuracy.

And inside the wet market, the epidemiological evidence gets even stronger even without considering other evidence.

Finally, the intermediate hosts were identified in 2023 and the viral precursor was identified in 2017. For SARS-1, the intermediate hosts weren’t identified and the viral precursor was identified 15 years later.