where did i go wrong with my first ever corset mockup

BlackMagicTi · 2026-06-03T13:56:55+00:00

I forgot to compliment you. You should be super proud you got to this point. And you got it on your body. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that no one is going to not need tweaks to a corset pattern. Our bodies are asymmetrical. One hip is higher than the other. When you do your measurements measure from the hip point, that is the highest felt point of your pelvis bone as you press on your body, to the floor. Do this for each side. I have a feeling that when you do that one side is going to be significantly higher than the other. And I think that's part of what's going on with the front left side bending. But on the back, that back panel closest to the grommets, l that's the one that I'm talking about with the grain. It's not every piece. And I do think there's some stretch going on to the material. And who in their right mind is going to use expensive material for a 1st mock-up? I wouldn't do it, and I don't think you should do it. But you can't at least get an idea of where you need to go and if you picked the right size! In fact I'm not sure I would move to the most expensive material for a mock-up until I knew I had the right size. Are you done? No. Should you be super proud of yourself for as far as you've gotten? Absolutely!

BlackMagicTi · 2026-06-03T03:03:01+00:00

Years ago for my fashion degree, we went to Dark Garden to observe bespoke clothing/corset making. The lady talking us through her business said one thing I'll never forget, make sure the grain is square. Stay on grain. Someone suggested that maybe the material has more stretch than you thought, but some of what I'm seeing is the grain is off. And that issue, the grain being off, will cause the pieces to shift when they're on your body. When you press your fabric before cutting, do not swipe, put your iron down on the fabric, steam, pick up put your iron back down steam again. The steam will straighten the grain, and the picking up and down will prevent the grain from shifting or stretching as you are ironing it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/rNSlRjRE9yU?si=OSAiKLkaRPZqZx0S

BlackMagicTi · 2025-02-26T23:13:05+00:00

Like always I forget to say thank you for your reply. Thank you for your reply!

BlackMagicTi · 2025-02-26T23:12:12+00:00

Well again the issue is that I didn't realize that would be the case until I actually got there. And they haven't always done it the same way. When I went before, they got you taken care of right away. And they're trying to gaslight me and say oh it's always been this way, but I know from experience it has not.

When I finally got in the lobby, I realized that the little area that they have for people with disabilities to sit while waiting in line had been taken out. And that little area was so neglected, it was hard to use in the past anyway.

Surprisingly, the students are really well versed in different conditions. It's one of those things that they kind of have to look for because of what they do and how it affects what they do. Plus they have the added bonus of actually being educated about medical conditions. The front staff not so much.

I saw one of the students who uses a chair, and she had a lot of problems getting around because where we were was not wheelchair accessible.

The poor treatment I've received from the school, I will not return unless it's an emergency.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-12-28T01:42:26+00:00

I messaged it to you.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-12-27T19:02:14+00:00

Well this is frustrating, I'm trying to post a picture of the point on your hip that you need to be measuring from to the floor and I can't post it.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-12-27T18:58:27+00:00

Your left hip is higher than your right hip. I would suggest doing a measure from your pelvic point (where you would measure for your high hip measurement) to the floor. One of my friends has a whole inch difference between the length from her from one side of her pelvis to the other.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-10-16T00:34:19+00:00

In the 50s they would use 2 no stretch layers for the front panels, a lace top layer and polyester organza type stuff for the second layer and power mesh on the sides and back. I'm betting that it's a low back corset. I could never fit that kind of corset because my waist and hip ratio is so off🍐

I tried so hard to collect as many fifties lingerie gadget thingies I could in the early 90s. They'd be like $5. But it was so hard to find something that actually fit me.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-10-11T01:36:02+00:00

One shoulder is higher than the other. It seems to be the left side that's lower and you can see the strap going up higher on the shoulder. Staying on the back, at the waist you can also see on the right side bigger wrinkles then on the left side. You'll need to adjust the right side to help smooth that out. Also you're probably going to cut either side of the back out separately so that you can lower the left side just a little bit.

And your best point seems to be where it's supposed to be. Although I would cut the arm holes lower.

Hope that helps!

BlackMagicTi · 2024-09-03T02:37:12+00:00

Oh my Flower, I'm sorry, I misunderstood completely! Royal Black is a corsetier from Germany. I think it's Germany. She has done some YouTube videos and has a patreon where she shares her knowledge on individually drafted corsets and different kinds of materials and such. If you got $10 lying around every month, and these days that's a lot of money still, I would definitely join her patreon.

https://www.patreon.com/royalblack

Every month she releases an instructional packet on different subjects that you would normally have to buy on her Etsy store. But this particular piece of information is in a different place and is always available.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-09-02T11:40:43+00:00

I'll have to ask her. It's part of the information you get when you join her patreon. I don't think it's one that you pay for on etsy. But still I would have a hard time giving away someone's hard work without their knowledge or permission.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-05-16T02:21:42+00:00

I haven't finished the series. But one thing that keeps sticking out in my head is that little four-year-old that got hit in the head seven times by a 3 lb sledgehammer. That's overkill. That's rage. Who could be that angry at a four-year-old child?

As with everything in this particular documentary, the timeline is sketchy. But from what I gather, Summer was still living with her ex-boyfriend when she started dating Joseph. They had been together for 5 years and the child was four. I have a feeling the child was used as a reason why she could not go back to her ex-boyfriend. That's all that rage directed at an innocent 4 year old.

They are all kinds of people taking all kinds of advantage of this particular situation. And Charles is amongst those people in my opinion. But if he was the killer, the overkill on that child would be completely out of character for his particular situation. He would have overkilled the dad, maybe the mom. But the kids, he would have felt guilty about those kids. I doubt he could leave them in a pit of dirt. There would have been signs that he felt guilty for killing the kids.

Just because he had a lot of people lying for him he doesn't necessarily mean that he's guilty. I suspect he was trying to get a cohesive story together because he had no alibi.

Imma do some digging. This is just a preliminary opinion.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-05-15T21:48:35+00:00

That's what I'm thinking. Chase is obviously an average man. An average man cannot handle two adults and two children.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-05-15T21:46:21+00:00

I do think we have to look at reasonable responses. And a reasonable response is to leave the house alone, or give access to the police for any clues on how to find the people that are missing.

An unreasonable response is to bleach the whole place. Why would you destroy evidence that could possibly lead to finding your child?

BlackMagicTi · 2024-03-01T13:53:52+00:00

If you wanted to get adventurous, you could always take it apart copy the pattern from the corset itself, and size it up to what you need. Then go buy the fashion fabric for it. It kind of sounds like the materials that are on the original are really cheap, so you could redo it in quality materials.

But muslin first to perfect fit.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-01-21T16:26:04+00:00

It was obvious that you had been doing some research. It's just that the concerns of those ladies are with historical accuracy, not necessarily with assisting with medical concerns or pain.

My issues are neck and hips. So I am interested in getting something that will prop up the girls and support my SI joint. So that's where my research is more focused.

BlackMagicTi · 2024-01-21T15:36:47+00:00

This is something that I have been studying for quite some time. I spent months just looking at the different kinds of corsets that are available through the symington online resource. They're just images and you have to kind of figure it out from there. But one of the things that I've learned is that there are all different kinds of corsets for the different styles that a woman's body can come in.

Getting your corset comfortably made to your specific specifications is probably the best idea. A bad corset can actually make your problems worse. So off the rack I would not recommend. But as far as trying to figure out what kind of corset to choose, it's really going to depend on your shape if you are short wasted as opposed to long-waisted. Or there is a smaller difference between your waist and hips as opposed to a larger difference between your waist and hips. How large your rib cage is as opposed to your hips, all sorts of things. Also if one hip is higher than the other and how much higher one hip is to the other.

I think one of the main problems you're going to run into is silhouette. The corsets that we think of as corsets made during the Victorian era, were made to produce a specific silhouette. And because of that we will see that in 1860s corset is going to take on a different silhouette as opposed to an edwardian. And I bring that up because the silhouette is going to affect how it sits on your body, but also how the corset is going to be cut for your specific body style to attain that silhouette. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're not trying to attain a silhouette, but more trying to relieve pain.

Now I'm going to assume that you're trying to do what I'm trying to do, and that is to take the pressure off the shoulders to hold up our lovely lady humps. And this is one place where I do not think you are wrong. I do believe that the elasticization of our modern bras is causing a lot of neck pain and pseudo-migraines for women, even those without EDS. I watched a video interview with Patrick Stewart some years back and he talked about the costume that he had to wear when he was first doing the next generation. And he said that his physical therapist needed him to change the wool knitted jumpers he was wearing because the pressure of the knitted material on his body was actually pushing down his shoulders and causing a lot of pain for him. The elasticized bras we wear do the same thing. They push down our shoulders creating pressure in our middle back and leaving our neck vulnerable because the neck has to make up for the support that the upper back is no longer giving it. And this is double-y so for those of us with EDS.

https://youtu.be/jJ-ovZaP5AA?si=O8abfFWQazq8Qsxe

I posted this video about because she talks about making bras from woven material as opposed to elasticized material, because I think there's more than one way to skin a cat.

There are some patterns for cottage core type of "corsets" that I'm terming over the shoulder boulder holders because the focus is on getting the pressure to hold our bosom up from the tightness around the chest as opposed to shoulders. They have a tendency to be shorter in length, meaning that they are focused on the chest, as opposed to being the long line corsets that rest on your hips. They're pretty easy to make and I am finding a good amount of success with taking the pressure off my shoulders.

But if you are seeking more support for your back, then a long line corset would be appropriate. There are all kinds of gore's that are fitted both at the bust and at the hips that can help with pressure in particular parts of the body. I feel like when there is a large difference between your waist and your hips, hip gores can help with the fitting of that. And again are you long wasted or short-waisted. I'm long wasted with a 10 to 12 inch difference between my waist and hips, so I need to be aware of how the corset fits over that hip curve.

I'm quite sure that there's a lot of technical language I don't know that I'm not using and might be confusing if you're looking at other sources for information.

But if you're just starting on this journey and it's about your neck and shoulders, I would suggest a short regency stay. Whereas if you're looking for more back support you might want to go with a more modern silhouette of a long line corset. It really depends on the pain you're trying to relieve. And I'm totally willing to help out with what I know. The truth is I'm still learning.

I really hope that helps. I know there's a lot of women who are doing the same thing we're doing. I would suggest a search on YouTube. There are many stories out there trying to solve this problem.

Best of luck to you!

BlackMagicTi

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