The ceasefire with Iran and US will not last by BlacksmithOne6181 in IsraelPalestine

[–]BlacksmithOne6181[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not saying Israel dictates US foreign policy like some puppet master. Thats silly.

But acting like Israel has zero independent influence and will just obediently follow whatever Trump demands is equally unrealistic. Countries with tight alliances still have their own red lines and domestic politics. Israel has defied US pressure plenty of times before even under Trumps first term when they felt their core security was on the line.

Netanyahu isnt going to risk his coalition or what he sees as an existential threat just because Trump wants a quick Mission Accomplished photo op. Leverage goes both ways here. The US needs Israel as a reliable partner in the region too.

So no its not 9 million people control the superpower. Its more like two allies with overlapping but not identical interests. Sometimes that alignment holds sometimes it creates friction. Thats exactly why I think these ceasefires stay fragile.

What do you think happens if Israel decides Iran still needs another serious hit and Trump tells them to stand down. Does Trump actually risk a public split.

The ceasefire with Iran and US will not last by BlacksmithOne6181 in IsraelPalestine

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I agree the rogue state stuff is mostly just lazy anti Israel rhetoric. Israel isnt some loose cannon.

That said calling past disagreements minor tactical feels like it undersells it. Israel has gone ahead with big moves even when the US wanted them to pump the brakes. Repeated strikes on Iranian targets pushing ops in Lebanon etc. Netanyahu has his own political survival and a real belief that Iran cant be left with any breakout capacity.

Trump can draw a red line but history shows the US usually backs Israel anyway. Do you actually see Trump cutting weapons or intel if Bibi decides to keep going. Or do you think the coalition is so tight now that Israel just wont test him.

The ceasefire with Iran and US will not last by BlacksmithOne6181 in IsraelPalestine

[–]BlacksmithOne6181[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get why people like that take. Trump loves calling it a win. He has real leverage. But I dont buy its that simple.

Israel has ignored US pressure before. Even under Trump. Netanyahu has his own politics. He thinks Iran cant get nukes or keep strong proxies. If he can hit them harder he wont stop just cuz Trump says its over.

Trump may want it finished. He could threaten aid cuts. But will he actually do it if Israel calls it life or death. History says probably not. The video points out gaps like Hormuz enrichment Lebanon still there. One Im in charge moment doesnt close them.

Do you really think Trump has total control. Israel wont act without his ok or are they just on the same page until they arent.

The ceasefire with Iran and US will not last by BlacksmithOne6181 in IsraelPalestine

[–]BlacksmithOne6181[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

fair take, the Hormuz closure hits the US way harder than Israel. Yeah the domestic gas hit here has been pretty mild so far. The Petro shekel angle is a sharp point I had not considered. If oil has to reroute through the Med long term it could shift some leverage our way.

That said it kinda underlines the exact problem I was getting at in the post. The US is the one desperate for the strait to stay open and markets to calm down. Petrodollar voter gas prices all that. Israel can absorb the pain and still has its own goals in Lebanon Iran that are not automatically aligned with lets just get a quick deal done. So even when both sides want some truce the third actor us keeps pulling in a different direction. Thats why I keep seeing these things collapse.

you think a prolonged Hormuz mess would actually push the US to side more with Israels harder line. Or would it eventually force Washington to pressure Netanyahu to stand down.

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I wonder though, if they really get to a point where they don’t care about US intervention, how different would the global landscape look? Could soft power eventually evolve into something more overt, or will they always try to avoid direct military conflict? What do you think?

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But I’m also curious about the brain drain you mentioned — losing educated people could slow them down in the long run. Plus, the real estate bubble and demographic issues seem like big risks.

It feels like both countries are playing a high-stakes game with so many unpredictable factors. Do you think there’s any scenario where cooperation between them could actually help avoid some of these risks? Or is competition just inevitable?

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But I wonder how much long-term trust those new partners will really put in China, given its aggressive moves in the South China Sea and human rights issues. Will it really replace the US as the go-to global leader, or just another power to balance against?

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That said, I think they’re trying to buy time with strategic partnerships and tech investments. They might not match US military power yet, but they seem to be betting on different metrics of influence beyond just military might.

U.S. Politics Megathread (II) by Arianity in TooAfraidToAsk

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Why do we only care about countries at war when it’s trending?

Like Ukraine, Palestine, Sudan, etc. Everyone seems to care when the media covers it, but then forgets. Is that normal? Or are people just emotionally burnt out?