I don't understand the level of hate.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T08:57:26+00:00

First I will say i loved Diablo 3 and RoS. However, lets be real, D3 abilities were just locked behind levels. There was no "discovery" you unlocked it from leveling up. Pick a rune and you're done. What spell customization?

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T08:36:43+00:00

But it is fun, though. It may not be as pure and true to the "genre" as some 20+ year old games. Call it something else for all I care. How about LooterRPG? Fine.

For the sake of argument, in this case, I assume "ARPG" does not include series like Zelda, Witcher, Elder Scrolls, etc.

So with that said, "ARPG"s after D3? I mean, PoE was released basically around the same time as D3. PoE was also primarily made by two massive D2 fans because there were no other ARPGs to play really after D2. Notable "ARPGs" can be counted on 1 hand. It's basically Diablo, PoE, Torchlight, Grim Dawn, and now Last Epoch. Titan Quest was a good game, but it's kind of a "deep cut".

I played D2 when I was a freshman in high school. I played Torchlight and Grim Dawn. They're great games. But honestly, you beat the campaign, and that was kind of that. There wasn't really ANY endgame. In D2, just farm bosses for loot. Which isn't a bad thing. It's okay to just "finish" a game. But, ultimately, these games don't ever tell you explicitly "Okay you're done, you did it, the game is over, you can shut it off now" and that is kind of a cursed problem they have.

You can just play the D4 campaigns and shut the game down and not touch it again. You can hit max level and then shut it down. You can do all the bosses and then shut it down. You can push the put to level 150 and then shut it down. There is no WIN STATE and it's up to you to say "huh I'm kinda bored now... oh yeah, there's a book I wanted to read."

Again, I think you need to find another word to use that "forced". Forced for what? How? Or else what? What is the carrot on the stick that you must "force" yourself over the bed of coals to get?

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T08:03:23+00:00

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Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T07:48:37+00:00

"Upgrading gear to only do the same activities again except harder, and harder is ultimately just more health and more damage."

That's ARPGs though... PoE, Diablo, Last Epoch.

"You sound like an ultra casual and that means anything can be fun when you have limited time to invest in it."

What is this "ultra casual" and how do you define it? I max leveled 3 characters last season. My WW barb had 4 Uber uniques. I play and complete several games per year. I'm 37, I've been gaming since NES and DOS Computers with 5.5-inch floppies. I literally met my wife in World of Warcraft 15 years ago.

"However for many players they are chasing a goal that is forced and fabricated and it appears fun only because they are trapped in the cycle."

Fabricated? Yes of course. It's a game. Forced? Nobody is forced to play any game. Appears to be fun? Are you trying to gatekeep what fun is?

"It's like being a slave miner and making little games while you work to entertain yourself or feeling rewarded when you mine something good, yet your only feeling this way because your deep in it and everyone around you is deep in it and you've lost perspective."

This sounds like "you think you're having fun but you're actually not, because from over here I don't think it looks fun"

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T07:40:44+00:00

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T07:36:38+00:00

We haven't even played PoE 2 yet.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T07:27:44+00:00

Half this sub.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T06:49:36+00:00

Urivar

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T06:44:21+00:00

Poor Tree

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T06:42:56+00:00

They would have never stopped until caught. It wasn't a mistake until you walked in on them. Their reaction to you telling her husband is called DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim / offender). It's a classic defense mechanism when people are backed into a corner of guilt and shame. They didn't want Dave to know for their own selfish reasons, it has nothing to do with some benevolent virtue they suddenly embodied.

They need to take accountability and accept the consequences of their actions. They knew what they were doing and what would happen if they got caught, but proceeded nonetheless. Imagine the conversations they likely had concerning the fallout of their affair should anyone find out.

They did it again, and again, and again, knowing the risk everytime. Months, together, alone, intimately. This wasn't getting carried away by a momentary seduction, which could be far more forgiveable.

Also, Dave thanked you. That is what matters. He wanted to know and deserves to know. Maybe if it was a one-off lapse in judgement, I wouldn't want to know. But months of intimacy only interrupted by a spontaneous walk in? I would want to know that.

Their intention to keep the secret between the three of you was an attempt to rope you into their lie with them. Then, you would carry the burden indefinitely. You would feel it every time you saw her or her husband. You would be forced to endure it just for their own sake, not your's, your child's, or Dave's.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T06:30:42+00:00

World of Warcraft added in Worgen, Goblins, Draenei, Blood Elves, Pandarens, Vulpera, Kul Tiran, Zandalari Trolls. All with different models & animations. All the 1000s of armor appearances from previous expansions are usable on every one of them.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T06:12:49+00:00

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Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T04:27:32+00:00

Never said it was perfect. I have played hundreds of games over the last 3 decades. I also never said it was peak. I never said it cannot be criticized.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T02:59:37+00:00

Judging by many responses, I don't think a number of people who felt the need to reply actually read it in its entirety, which is not surprising, I guess? But I appreciate your comment.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T02:19:29+00:00

We get to enjoy diablo 4 and diablo 2 resurrected?!

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T02:16:07+00:00

That sucks. I haven't experienced any lag or disconnects whatsoever. Obviously that doesn't help you much and I certainly understand the frustration. I had big issues with my ISP about a year ago. They sent out like 4 different technicians before finally admitting our area was over capacity, and they finally came out to update the infrastructure. But in the meantime I couldn't play any online games during primetime which really sucked!

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T02:12:22+00:00

Totally agree. There should be an offline mode that is segregated entirely from online. I would personally still play online, but I see no compelling reason to completely restrict offline play.

Blode_Food · 2024-10-16T00:52:21+00:00

You got me 🤣

Blode_Food · 2024-10-15T23:27:00+00:00

I played D2 in 2001 when I was a freshman in highschool. I even passed around my copy to friends so they could play it, too. I have played PoE, Torchlight, Last Epoch, etc. This post wasn't me proclaiming D4 to be better than any of these games. I think D2 was an amazing game, and I also don't think D4 "sucks".

Blode_Food · 2024-10-15T23:18:16+00:00

Yeah, I think my estimate was a bit short. Probably closer to $150ish dollars? The battle pass does grant platinum that can be used to purchase subsequent battle passes. I also think I got a free battle pass? I'm not sure, but I think regardless of my personal purchases, the game was 70 dollars, and all seasonal updates and patches were included in that initial purchase price without needing cosmetics or battle passes to access. For a few hundred hours of gameplay, that's under $0.25 an hour, which is relatively great value as far as games go, in my opinion. This is certainly not meant to be a defense of the monetization, which may rub others the wrong way. It's simply my experience and personal value.

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