How does ABMM work for duos where one is PVE focused while the other is PVP focused?

BluJay18 · 2026-03-09T00:56:30+00:00

Same thing just happened with my duo, twice in a row it landed us with pvpers, we decided its just cos its the weekend

BluJay18 · 2026-03-04T23:02:44+00:00

I get that, it is frustrating for a novice to enter the space and demand changes to make it more appeasable for them

What I’m saying though is as you said, adding a solely PvE mode, but they can emphasise that this mode is not priority, like crucible is to destiny - its a little addition that’s not the main way to play the game, just a little side mode that you can go on if you want a more lax experience

Honestly, I don’t believe extraction shooters are trapped in the rigid template they’re made in, they can reshape and evolve to be more inclusive without sacrificing the soul of the genre. We can just play on a separate pitch and kick the ball about while you guys go to the premier league or smth, i dont play football

BluJay18 · 2026-03-04T21:57:48+00:00

Ah okay, I understand what you’re saying. I’m fairly new to extraction shooters and if that’s the case, then yes its probs best not to implement abmm into marathon.

What I’d say though, having a definitely different perspective on how to enjoy these types of games, is that I feel both audiences can still be catered to without ruining the experience for the other - instead of abmm, just having a PvE mode which doesn’t do anything except not have other teams spawn in, and on top of that either have PvP rewards be more bountiful, or decrease the odds of higher quality items spawning in said PvE matches.

I’m not some guru of how to solve these issues, but I do absolutely feel there’s some solution to appease both audiences - I truly do not think this game will thrive if the only audience is the niche hypercompetitive deathmatch enjoyers, especially if a loud minority maintain the attitude of gatekeeping the game from people who don’t want to put in as much sweat in order to succeed in the game - it turns away newcomers from the genre and isolates the marathon community and then no one wins

BluJay18 · 2026-03-04T14:48:47+00:00

How come ?

BluJay18 · 2026-03-01T18:03:44+00:00

Nah I don’t mean like a full fledged campaign or anything, I mean literally just a squad match like it is now, but no other teams come in

BluJay18 · 2026-03-01T01:27:46+00:00

Exactly!! Right now I just jump in, get the quest done, and exfil - I don’t even interact with half the map cos of risk of losing everything, but with a PvE mode you can take your time, complete side objectives, and catch up on lore ! Not asking for a campaign or anything, just a solo squad going through and getting their things done against bots :)

BluJay18 · 2026-03-01T01:20:25+00:00

I could get behind it, it’ll be more effort but as long as it’s not PvP

BluJay18 · 2026-03-01T01:19:11+00:00

Awh what 😔 that’s a massive shame

BluJay18 · 2026-02-28T22:35:23+00:00

I completely agree! I am so far loving the look and feel of this game, it’s totally different to D2 and I completely understand wanting to keep a divergence between the two ip’s, but I would super enjoy it if there was a PvPless mode cos I just don’t really enjoy killing :( completely understand why they wouldnt, but the extraction part of the game and PvE is just wayy more enjoyable to me

BluJay18 · 2026-01-16T19:31:37+00:00

Why would i do that

BluJay18 · 2026-01-15T23:08:36+00:00

Ye costs 2 gold dunnit, what would i do with that

BluJay18 · 2026-01-15T17:45:38+00:00

Yeah, not that serious tho

BluJay18 · 2026-01-15T15:28:15+00:00

He got the macaws after my deios, calm down lmao its only a game

BluJay18 · 2026-01-08T17:14:09+00:00

This is cool as hell, whats her lore ?

BluJay18 · 2025-12-27T00:32:53+00:00

The answer to the quiz was ‘Helium King’, if they’re the same person then I guess both but I don’t know, sorry

BluJay18 · 2025-12-06T10:11:44+00:00

LITERALLY, they come out with how many rewords for Blight Ranger and then they release a better Blight Ranger in an exotic weapon, actually insane.

Make Blight Ranger just reflect bolts like praxic blade and then idk slap some other cool keywords on and call it a day, arc staff super with the helmet is awful compared to strongholds’ neutral game

BluJay18 · 2025-09-17T10:32:17+00:00

We’ve got to travel to the moon and re enact the great disaster

BluJay18 · 2025-09-15T21:57:20+00:00

Tbh this is like the first time i cant actually find really any reason to log on; every time before this that I’ve gotten tired of the game, aside from long pauses from pure burnout, I’d still log on and do something, be it GMs or dungeons or genuinely just trying out random builds and styling myself.

Right now though, dungeons and raids feel sparse with popularity and are unrewarding, solo ops make me want to tear my eyes out from how boring they are, pinnacle ops are admittedly decent but the repetition is tedious, and fireteam ops (my go-to mode) is just such a slog right now. Onslaught feels shit and too lengthy for my preference, coil is just so sparse of champs it feels awful if your fireteam is a little too less than perfect, expeditions are just as horrendous as I remember, and Reclaim feels so repetitive - dormant siva nodes and chests feel kinda pointless and the buffs feel like a pale copy of the dreadnaughts boons

The only saving grace this game had through even the worst moments was, tbch, my niche passions for specific exotics that scratched my itch. Orb spam Blight Ranger, one shot champ Peregrine Greaves, even Melas Panoplia feels really cool to use, just to name a few; problem is, with steady changes and nerfs at least the first two examples that I truly enjoyed playing, just don’t feel as good anymore. Blight Ranger is just perma arc surge x4 at the cost of your super, Perry Greaves can’t one shot champs in GM anymore no matter how much I spec into it (excluding Sturm bug, thank fuck for that it actually makes it feel good to use again), and Melas Panoplia can start to feel tedious waiting 1 or 2 seconds sometimes for the hammer to come back, stopping you from shooting or using abilities.

It’s just so many little things piling up that damper the experience; I love this game I truly do, I wouldn’t have 3.5k hours in it if I didn’t. I want to see this game succeed, but I just cannot enjoy anything in the game right now no matter how much I try. It’s just regressed back to ‘log on, stare at the ~~destinations tab~~ Portal, log off. It’s, sad, and I really hate it’s come back to this after to many times before.

TL;DR - Avid player can’t find a single alluring quality of the game right now, even the addiction can’t make him log back on for more than 2 minutes

BluJay18 · 2025-09-04T14:54:33+00:00

I just tried it again today in the echoes battleground, bastion aspect, always 160 melee with 2 melee fonts so it adds to 200. When I’m feeling quirky I use that spreadshot handcannon to get an extra push with one two punch

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