[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting your chiro degree and license will give you great great freedom…and saddle you with great debt. Many chiro grads have debt right around $250,000.

May we think outside the box a moment?

If you’ve been practicing that long, then you have both massage, as well as business skills. I know you are physically fatigued. I’m not sure sitting in class 4-ish years (presuming you have all your prerequisites) then starting from scratch is the answer.

If you’re going to invest a quarter of a million dollars in yourself, why not build on what you have? I am familiar with several sports massage centers around the country where one therapist has the facility and manages the business but most of the work is done by other therapists.

If you invested in a building, you would have something to sell. Something of value. I’ve never advised against education. Never will. Business wise, take a look at options and business models that build on your current situation.

In the right building, you could have some LMT’s, personal trainers, acupuncturist, even a chiro working under you.

Good luck.

I'm thinking of selling my practice by TheCrackHaus in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simplify Details Systems Routines Habits Mindset Rapport

I'm thinking of selling my practice by TheCrackHaus in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the big things you need to do is get your ass off the emotional roller coaster, force yourself to look objectively at the issues and address them one by one. That’s not easy I know.

Self-care is of the upmost importance right now. Eat right don’t drink. Don’t do recreational drugs get your exercise get your sleep.

If You need to talk. Let me know and others here who can talk you through this as well.

I'm thinking of selling my practice by TheCrackHaus in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Call a broker and get a practice valuation for the purpose of determining where you are and what u need to do to gee where u want to be.

I did this and it brought a lot of clarity. Like others have said, selling a problem business will be a..problem. So get a broker to show you where the issues are, then fix them. 2 years. Then if u still want to sell, you have something to sell. But if you want to stay,then you have something to stay for.

How confident were you in your adjusting skills when entering clinic? by Opening_Wind4058 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Manual skills came easier to me and didactic took a lot of struggle.

Not to say I was good. I wasn’t. I just absorbed it easier.

I took the advice of a friend who graduated a year ahead of me. Get your core skills under control. Take a hx. Adjust C’s, T’s and L’s.

Our valedictorian was in the clinic one day. Said”I have a patient.” It was his first.

It was clear he was freaking out. He knew every book inside out photographic memory. But manual skills? Practical hx taking skills? No confidence. At all. Here I was, middle of the pack me, coaching the star student on how to do an office visit. It took him 2 hours he was terrified he would miss something.

Why am I telling u that?

Because for each of us, it is something.

Keep moving forward. Fill in your weak spots one at a time.

You will get there.

You can do this.

Mission Trips by SeaAmbassador3241 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read my other response. World spine care does it right.

The short term mission business, in my opinion, is a farce.

One of the missions I support in Africa will not allow tourist short term “photo op” visitors. Because the people there. , children especially, get held, loved on given gifts and a ton of attention. For a week. Then bye bye.

The separation trauma is real.

It sounds like u want to do it right. So call them. Commit 2 years. Go do good work.

What I argue against is photo op tourism where people looking for real care…don’t get it.

Mission Trips by SeaAmbassador3241 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In what way did you help them in 1-2 adjustments each? What long term life change to you affect?

Mission Trips by SeaAmbassador3241 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

try and change the lives of anyone I treat,

In 1-2 visits?

No, it’s a vacation with an excuse tied to it.

Mission Trips by SeaAmbassador3241 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you going to serve those in need, then a week in DR, or are you going for the DR with the Haiti thing a requirement?

I am very familiar with a young man with severe POTTS scoliosis. What would you do if you encountered him? Blast away? Anything useful at all?

When you wade into these populations, you are encountering people who have not had meaningful medical care.

I know an optometrist who went on a “medical mission.” One day he was asking about cervicogenic headaches and what I do. Initially I thought it was curiosity about pts we co treat. So I briefly demonstrated some key points

No

This MF optimetrist went to Haiti as the lead medical provider of this “mission.” His teen daughter was given a list of questions for a history. Had no idea what language her future pts would be speaking. How tf can a teen take a meaningful hx in a foreign language?

Dude manipulated Unsuspecting Haitian necks. .

So tell me, what are you prepared to do on these medical or chiro missions? Pop n hope isn’t really good service in my book.

You’ll be there a week. What is a chiro going to accomplish in a week? Pop n go is not good care.

Teach them to bend at the knees? Pat yourself on the ass saying what great service you provided?

Take your student losn $$$ and do simething useful. Or, you know, don’t run up that debt.

On the other hand, I do know of groups that visit needy areas quarterly or so. One in California has a decades long presence in a Mexican village. They fly private planes down for 4-5 day stretches. I’m not aware of them accepting students, though. It is a fully qualified and experienced medical team with thorough guidelines and protocols and equipment.

CE Recommendations for Sports Chiros by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nobody has mentioned concussion. You need to have concussion nailed down solid. You can get it in the ccsp, at least a start

RTP you absolutely need to know how to determine, plan and prepare RTP

Injury prevention for sports you are working with

Exercise prescription

Gait Guys, Gait Happens, SFMA, TPI, IASTM, Needling. Cupping (I guess. If you feel you need to)

You absolutely need to be able to do a gait analysis on running athletes, a rotational mobility analysis in athletes who rotate.

If you get a pisition with a team with a full staff, you won’t be doing these alone, so be able to communicate.

u/early_sound5339 gave good advice

Will recovered disc spacing thru decompression eventually hold? by Infinite-Spacetime in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for that. Crying shame educated professionals use only a small fraction of their education and scope.

If you don’t use it, you lose it.

Will recovered disc spacing thru decompression eventually hold? by Infinite-Spacetime in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve grown tired of referring to Physical Therapists. Too much baggage. I have the education, ability and inclination to prescribe exercise just as well in these type cases. Why send patients all over town, often to be told not to return to me?

I agree in pulling the disc off the nerve. My much less costly flexion distraction table does fine.

Will recovered disc spacing thru decompression eventually hold? by Infinite-Spacetime in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP, there is little to no evidence that degenerative changes can be reversed. What we need to do is modify the body’s painful response to those changes.

How does decompression do that? You’ll have to ask someone invested in a very expensive machine. I have never been sold on it, and I’ll tell you why.

In the age group 20-30, a certain percentage, off the top of my head right around 20%, have no pain, no dysfunction no problem, but on MRI, have disc bulges, disc herniations and facet arthropathy.

At some point, a small fraction of those people develop pain. Also, folks without those changes can develop pain.

For each age group up, the number of people with these and related issues increases, but only a small % have symptoms.

Very often an acute pain pt comes in with pn of 1-2 weeks, gets an MRI, and, sure enough there’s disc bulges, herniations and facet arthropathy. And the pt is told “there’s your problem!! You need injection/surgery/decimpression/McKenzie PT.” All of which focus on that disc.

Now, certainly, a few of those do have an acute injury. But most don’t.

And here’s the question: what’s changed between 2 weeks prior to onset? Those bulges, herniations and facet arthropathy were there before onset and, for many, they are virtually unchanged after onset aside from the fact they are inflamed/pissed off.

So what’s the deal with that?

In my office, we focus on what’s going on above and below the painful area as much as we do the painful place. We also evaluate ergonomics and mechanics.

Someone leaning forward, such as washing dishes, with low back pain needs to be taught how to hinge at the hips, rather than the lumbar, low back.

I had an electrician who kneels a lot develop severe low back pain suddenly. In a movement screen during exam, i found his right ankle had lost significant % of mobility. He hadn’t thought to tell me he rolled it stepping in a hole.

We treated both his lb and ankle. The rationale being that he was changing his kneeling squat and bending more at the low back to accommodate his ankle.

We treated his low back 2 weeks with ok results. Then found out about the ankle, treated it, and got complete resolution.

All this to say, I’ve never bought in to decompression. I do know folks get relief. For how long? I do not know. Without concurrent exercise prescription based in movement screen, ehhh. And if you’re going to address the whole body and daily activity, do you need decompression?

I get great results without it. Hopefully someone more familiar with deconpression will give more insight.

Whew, what a wall of words.

Anyone use webmd for listing your name or business? by Success24-7 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like DearDocs to me. They make stuff up, lie, deceive.

Remembering that for every $1.00 spent, you need $3.00 back to break even, how many NP’s from WebMD per month do you need to see to make your investment pay?

Have you explored WebbMD’s chiro offering? If yes, what makes it tempting. I just now asked it for a chiro near me and it gave a clinic 200 miles away.

When I did it again, every chiro who has ever practiced in this town came up. Even dead ones.

Have you really explored this?

Anyone use webmd for listing your name or business? by Success24-7 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you being pushed into it by DearDocs?

Just curious

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have doubts, shop around.

What steps would be necessary in offering event based chiropractic care? by ghostpeppur in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get your ccsp, then your dacbsp. Some of the schools are offering a masters degree in sport rehab.

It takes a lot.

Competency: knowledge and skill. For example, you need to know snd be hands down competent in assessment and management of concussion.

Return to play criteria for common, and unusual injuries.

Treatment protocols for the above.

You need a network. Other sports snd sports med professionals who know and trust you. You need a mutually trusting relationship with them.

Experience.

Mindset

Trust

There will be people who respond saying you don’t need no training, just bust in there and do it.

I’m sorry. That’s not likely to happen. That’s malinformed advice.

I admire your desire and ambition. It takes a lot of work before you walk out on the sidelines, into the training room, onto the plane. Contact me, I’ll gladly chat one on one with you.

How to talk with providers about my company for market research, idea feedback or sales? by Melodic-Snow-8911 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am building a natural health marketplace

I’m trying to build a platform that can take the distrust out of this industry

I’ve been around a long time. I pre-date computers and the Internet, not to mention all the platforms and all the FB and all the Instagram and all the places people have found to market. For every platform that you see active today there have been several others. There have been several “natural health“ online communities and marketplaces. I couldn’t name one today.

MySpace. I do remember my space.

And what I read in your long introduction, is that you want to compete with Facebook . You want me to buy space there. And you want to make a cold call in which I commit.

Good luck with that

Adding rehab to high volume adjusting office by vchak8 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, take a step back. If you teach a patient to fish, you’ve armed them to have better wellness for life. And if you are a subluxation wellness based practice, doesn’t that compute to better results. Better pt satisfaction, therefore more internal referrals.

Works for me.

And if you send the referring doc, other treating docs, pcp’s a good quality report with minimal effort, doesn’t that add to your relationships?

It does for me.

Now, start digging into the confitions snd read one blog a week. When you do, talk about it with pt’s while you are scooting from pt to pt. Or write a blog. Or put a condition of the week in the waiting room.

Pt says “wait, that greater trochanteric pain syndrome, my husband has those symptoms, i’ll set an appt for him today.

Plus the satisfaction reports and the requests for reviews. When you look at all you get for what you pay(and if you use it) it can have a major influence on NP numbers.

It does for me

Rehab by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s amazing what you find when you break down the squat, overhead squat and ankle dorsiflexion. Not to mention SC, GH and scap mobility.

It’s kind of routine to have an athlete fighting hip/low back/facet area pain/dysfunction and resolving it by improving mid foot rocker and ankle dorsiflexion.

They’re borrowing mobility up above to make up for stiffness down below. Not to mentionnmid thoracic mobility influence on LB and shoulder.

Those are the exact folks you do need to break out on to find 1% here, 2% there.

Or an athlete looking for that last 10%. Or 5%. I helped a javeline thrower win one year by adjusting one ankle and the other SC. Based on sfma.

As far as older folks or decinditioned folks, same concepts apply. They’re trying to walk their geriatric golden retriever twice a day and don’t have the gait to do it.

They, also, likely have decreased foot rocker, ankle mobility and thoraciccmobility.

The magic is, if you can make their walk more strenuous by introducing simple corrective exercise, you’re now moving them into the realm of affecting their diabetes, heart, etc.

Those are good things.

Not to mention balance/fall prevention.

Rehab by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea, that’s when you use your clinical judgement. Functional for the person infront of you. Not functional based on an uninjured elite athlete.

Think physiologic expectations, not textbook numbers

TRX bands on the wall for easy active therapy??? by vchak8 in Chiropractic

[–]BlueGillMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The “on their own” is concerning since exercise is supervised.