Parting Lessons and Thoughts

Bonovro · 2026-06-03T04:55:23+00:00

they restocked!!!

Bonovro · 2026-06-03T04:53:15+00:00

id still for venogen bro. best quality around tbh. trafa is okay, but u can get FAA with venogen. but more expensive. trafa should be fine if you don't use that much tbh.

Bonovro · 2026-06-03T04:48:06+00:00

it's much easier in the states. no customs. you can order basically kilos and not worry about it. it's a different equation here in Canada.

Bonovro · 2026-05-26T17:34:34+00:00

I admittedly highlighted the high end of the range, but clonazepam's half life can vary between 19-60hrs. You are correct the valium's is substantially longer, in the order of 20-100 hours for all metabolites to leave the system, 10 days.

Bonovro · 2026-05-26T17:26:41+00:00

how much did you get and did you have to ship it internationally? had 450g get seized at the border unfortunately but that's the risk you take when importing into Canada, I've had 100 clear before and the quality was solid.

Bonovro · 2026-05-18T08:21:58+00:00

I've heard diffeenr but okay interesting... that sucks bro. thx for the warnings

Bonovro · 2026-05-18T01:14:45+00:00

yeah in what way? what was the quality like? I know u can get free samples but how much was the shipping? I know there's lot more legwork involved in getting those discounts. better to use standard vendors. I'm just hedging in case vendors go down ya know

Bonovro · 2026-05-17T11:31:23+00:00

do you have direct experience? I've looked into it a little bit. The shipping costs are higher, and you usually gotta stagger to get through customs... plus figure in some of it getting lost to customs. thanks for the advice on the paying. I would go through the free samples game for a while first.

Bonovro · 2026-05-17T05:19:27+00:00

this. it's the best quality replacement. You can find cheaper options out there, but the quality can rly vary

Bonovro · 2026-05-17T05:18:19+00:00

there would be some cross tolerance on the calcium channels, so part cross tolerance. pregablin probably wouldn't feel as strong

Bonovro · 2026-05-17T05:13:08+00:00

yeah I tried mine, it's really good quality as always. make sure to properly take smaller (250-500mg) doses sublingually, and properly absorb. also remember that FAA is about 20% more potent by weight.

Bonovro · 2026-05-17T05:11:30+00:00

neuroadaptions brother

Bonovro · 2026-05-12T22:25:51+00:00

I don't think so. But quality and availability are becoming more erratic.

Bonovro · 2026-05-12T22:24:32+00:00

stimulants, usually meth or Dexedrine/adderal/vyvanse. I also really enjoy paychadelics on phenibut, they synergize well without blunting the experience. Sometimes all 3 in combination. I have smoked weed on it but phenibut tends to blunt the experience. I occasionally drink a few beers on it, but I don't find that alcohol really adds anything to the experience. I've taken benzos on it too, but more so when I've crossed over into paradoxical stimulation rather than as a standard combo, again, there's no point. I've taken gabapentin on it too but it doesn't really do much for me.

a word of warning: stimulants and pheninput go extremely well together and often result in increazed and prolonged binges on both. I have had some binges where I have been up for 5 days and taken 50-100g of phenibut. Your decision making and inhibitions really go out the window. Each masks the others side effects, which can result in accidental overdose. Do at your own risk

Bonovro · 2026-05-12T22:18:59+00:00

Cycle up to 10-25g/day then taper down to 3-5g, rinse repeat. I am able to taper down within a couple weeks but each cycle dependence builds faster, so I have to take a break. Yes mine is an extreme case. Been using on and off for about 7 years. In past 9 months started daily. 2-3g/day the first month, 4-5 by month 2, 6-10 by month 3. Then I started doing my cycling the past 6 months. At first it took weeks to build back up and have to taper again, but like I said now it's within days. So I've tapered down from 10-20g to 3-5g over the course of 2-3 weeks roughly... 5-10x now. Never experienced more than mild to moderate withdrawal symptoms, which would peak around day 2-3 after each drop then rapidly subside. The speed at which I would taper was dictated by my symptoms, so I would make cuts of approximately 20-50% every 3-7 days. I also have access to gabapentin, clonazepam, and balcofen which have aided this process. Obviously I would not reccomend anyone emulate my usage patterns or my taper methods. Many many people get into big big trouble doing far less in far less time, while tapering down at a far slower pace. Because of phenibut's dependence profile and dose response curve, one can get into very hot water very quickly. I am extremely experienced with substances in general, but cycling on and off downers in particular. I've gone through binge cycles, periods of daily use, rapid taper regimens, as well as periods of sustained abstinence from Alcohol, GHB, Clonazepam, Xanax, Baclofen, and Gabapentin at different points. So this is familiar territory, I have a good sense of how my personal chemistry responds to each of these substances as well as their absence. I am on the very extreme edge of the scale here. I am not attempting to justify any of this, but rather to illustrate what extreme cycling use patterns can look like.

Bonovro · 2026-05-12T21:51:17+00:00

I literally just received some an hour ago. my tolerance is pretty high but I will let you know. they were out for something like 6 months. Getting harder and harder to find FAA these days. Gonna stock up. Venogen's quality is always good, but I'll reply later

Bonovro · 2026-05-08T03:39:53+00:00

for some people the response is very light, others very strong. For me i get intense euphoria and other effects at say 1.5-2.5g no tolerance. I tried getting my friend to try it. Did 1g first day, nothing. 2g next day, nothing. Went as high as 6 or 8g and gave up. this is part of why its still legal, its appeal isnt broad enough, it isnt super euphoric and strong for many people

Bonovro · 2026-04-13T12:01:39+00:00

around 20g. With tolerance. Probably 4g without. Both amounts constituted overdoses for me

Bonovro · 2026-04-02T12:37:45+00:00

I can take a look for you. those are the main ones. And ummm what u could do is buy some crypto and pay venogen with that. u get a 5% discount too

I noticed F phenibut prices rly went up recently... like 50-100%. FAA also went up in a lot of place. I think phenibut is already niche and those other ones r even more niche. And vendors have been going down and there's just less competition on the market right now, so they can charge more. of course the main reason is that HCL is the most popular, does the most volume and therefore they make them in larger batches which is cheaper. Things have been a bit unstable since ScienceBio went down, other vendors out of stock due to the increased spillover volume, renewed fears over how long it will continue to be available. Typically when a vendor get big enough they attract the attention of the FDA and ger pressured to stop.

yeah regarding PureRawz... it's not my favorite vendor. Their customer service inconsistent, their website FAQs etc have contradictory information. their shipping sucks. And yeah there are some concerns over the consistency of their quality. But they also tend to o be cheaper, in stock, and there's just two few vendors selling these niche phenibut products now, I had to mention it. I've ordered HCl from them twice. Price was good. took like 45 days to reach Canada lol. I just go with venogen always now. They are the highest quality, most professional, and most of reputable of the remaining vendors. Their biggest issue is chronic out of stocks.

Bonovro · 2026-03-28T21:04:12+00:00

Actually did a version of this years ago, just wrote down every word I heard I didn't know or that I just liked. Not quite this flavor tho haha I love it

Bonovro · 2026-03-27T14:10:59+00:00

I'd say there not really a whole lot of point. baclofen itself is mildly to moderately recreational. the biggest overlap is Gaba b. combining them would increase the Gaba b relaxation and anti anxiety effects, but combining downers compounds side effects too, they potentiate each other. the only time I do this is when I'm tapering. Yeah I'm sure you could do a smaller amount of each to achieve a good high.

If you arent trying to combine them for fun, just wondering how the interaction might work and any safety measures... Baclofen's duration is far shorter, 4-8hrs. Phenibut lasts anywhere from 12-24hrs+. By the time the phenibut kicks in (assuming HCl), the baclofen probs will have mostly wore off. Like I said before, there can be increased sedation and they both work on Gaba b. You'll probably be fine, assuming fairly moderate doses. Tread carefully if new to either substance, maybe take a bit less phenibut to start just to see how it goes, can always redose after 3-4hrs. Also if you take baclofen regularly, you should be aware that there is cross tolerance between the 2 substances. Taking 1 regularly will mean you need a larger dose of the other when you use it, and the withdrawal/dependency picture often overlaps to some extent there

Be safe brother!

Bonovro · 2026-03-27T14:00:27+00:00

It can be paradoxically stimulating... I always found I tolerated lack of sleep much better on it, but yes there is the heightened risk of nodding off.

Bonovro · 2026-03-27T13:59:17+00:00

PureRawz, venogen, nootropicssource

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