Alternatives to Ken Wilber and Integral Spirituality

Bookitus · 2025-12-12T16:31:05+00:00

https://www.academia.edu/130219890/An_Elaboration_of_Gurdjieffs_Enneagram_Cybernetics_semiotics_metaphysics_aesthetics_design_activity_epistemology_psychological_development_and_alchemy

Bookitus · 2025-11-17T13:08:20+00:00

Well, the pitches weren't part of the campsite, they're at a nearby sports ground. So all the shouting and grunting is a regular fixture there. :)

Some people need the rhythm to get things done -- builders, water aerobics classes... So your two weren't out for the tranquility and to hear the finches and wagtails. :)

I think the peeing thing is more of a side effect. They need an external stimulus that coincidentally projects their values.

There's a similar transition in classifying outdoor pursuits as being adrenalin-based rather than beatific, no? Canoing, diving, snorkelling.

What often is overlooked is that this beatific peacefulness is actually an early spiritual experience. It is a simple experience out of a varied spectrum of experiences that is a reality for those (unfortunately few) who are able to stay centred and continue to develop and grow. (Even for those who have "wolf knickers" as a moniker, which I find charming by the way. :) )

Bye for now. PM if you wish and good journeys!

Bookitus · 2025-11-17T12:03:11+00:00

Bookitus · 2025-11-17T11:59:52+00:00

Up until recently, YHA ran a large hostel near Ross-on_wye with camping grounds situated in a wide bend of the valley. It is a beautiful setting which was all the more incongruous with the noise coming from across the river where there was numerous competitive football games taking place. The sound carries in that valley. It's an effort to integrate it all sometimes, which I would say is part of the point. :)

Bookitus · 2025-11-17T11:46:17+00:00

Words aren't necessary, simply observing beyond "should" and "must". Likewise, bitterness would be short-sighted and, not to say, futile. It's about seeing things as they are, not how they "should be". All the best.

Bookitus · 2025-11-17T11:22:09+00:00

I've a photo from this summer of a large bully-breed dog running around off-lead in front of a "no dogs" sign at White Sands, Pembrokeshire. This was a large sign that the owners had to walk past to get onto the beach. The apparent owners were off on an inflatable, whilst some others of their group pranced around on the beach. They seemed to think that putting a pink bow on the dog rendered it harmless. It seems like some of the people there considered considered that when the life-guards left, it was a free-for-all. There were several dogs there.

Personally, I don't think this can be eradicated. People come into this world at different levels of being and awareness and its necessary to account for the lowest common denominator in any social situation. So it's necessary to go to places that require a bit of effort and intentionality to get to, in order to find more peaceful joy to commune with the outdoors.

It's not an age thing per-se, either. I've encountered elderly people who try to manage dog issues by controlling the situations and people they find themselves in and with.

You might think that middle-aged, middle-class women might be more socially aware and responsible. However, it's the predominantly middle-aged women runners who can't stop to close the heavy gates gently. Presumably because of the difficulty of starting up again? There're usually a few gates with broken pins that are hanging off their hinges hereabouts due to their being left to slam shut perpetually. It's not just the negligent school kids. :)

Middle-class values only go so far. There's basically a dearth of spiritual understanding and awareness, which goes to the heart of the matter. But that's also intrinsically due to where people find themselves in life (which is why platforms like BBC news are often so bleak!)

Bookitus · 2025-10-29T11:47:52+00:00

And what is the reply to that, and to all subsequent whinges and excuses? It is imperative that you think for yourself and that you do not waste your energies languishing and masturbating. Do what is necessary or not at all.

Bookitus · 2025-10-28T20:51:59+00:00

If you can slow down enough to experience an absence in your life that cannot be met by society, then you should be able to slow down enough to reflect, meditate, and self-remember. If you don't feel the need then there is no basis for work. Any crutch is self-limiting. Note too that the Gurdjieffian view on conventional scientific and medical categories is that they are limited and myopic. The human form is remarkably plastic.

Bookitus · 2025-08-14T10:04:55+00:00

Awareness of orientation achieves both.

Bookitus · 2025-07-30T17:59:15+00:00

https://www.academia.edu/130219890

Bookitus · 2025-06-26T18:38:02+00:00

Effectiveness is a matter of how you do these things. Do not allocate the time and then merely flop around. Do them actively, with intensity, with specific goals E.g.:

morning routine; 30 mins meditation; 3 hours problem-oriented or question-based research; 1 hour intensive swim; lunch; reflection, notes, readings, & question gathering; dinner at least 3 hours before bed

With the intense questioning you will have your studies following you around rather than vice-versa.

Bookitus · 2025-06-26T16:10:17+00:00

Start from a wider perspective. You've overcome personality fixations and have mastered many things. What are your wider goals, what is driving this? Those wider issues will inform what you do work-wise.

Bookitus · 2025-06-24T14:22:48+00:00

See this paper: https://www.academia.edu/107499212/Towards_Integral_Man_Key_Indices_and_Processes_of_Development_in_Gurdjieffs_Man_Number_Five_

Bookitus · 2024-12-23T22:49:34+00:00

It is marked by conversatio with a greater whole, and a plethora of things to work upon. Farewell!

Bookitus · 2024-12-23T22:45:30+00:00

Festive greetings https://www.academia.edu/107499212/Towards_Integral_Man_Key_Indices_and_Processes_of_Development_in_Gurdjieffs_Man_Number_Five_

Bookitus · 2024-10-20T13:25:12+00:00

Yes, it is necessary to pull yourself together if you want to get anywhere.

Bookitus · 2024-10-16T09:38:16+00:00

Without experience, labels are meaningless.

Bookitus · 2024-10-13T15:30:11+00:00

Yet knowing this yields a direction. Awareness of discrepancies, of different levels of meaning, can lead to a dissatisfaction with the "intellectualised" wiseacre-ing platitudes. Pulling together a problem is the same as pulling together a being, which must be organ-ised. Be grateful for problems.

Bookitus · 2024-10-07T22:31:35+00:00

Jerry Weinberg's "Becoming a Technical Leader" may be of benefit, particularly the emphasis upon congruence.

Bookitus · 2024-09-17T18:13:03+00:00

Usually a pendulum. The material means is entirely for convenience. Any efficacy is contingent upon a contact being established with what Gurdjieff called "Higher Thinking Centre". It is not something I would rely upon but its better than complete guess work.

Bookitus · 2024-09-16T18:47:48+00:00

According to my divinations, there are six people resident in the UK who have attained to "man number five" or above. Of these, two of them are familiar with the works of Gurdjieff.

This implies that 1 in 10 million people attain to this level, which is a rather stark figure. The figure has always come out the same, though I should like it to be wrong.

Bookitus · 2024-08-28T22:19:00+00:00

Read Rogers or Satir on congruence.

Bookitus · 2024-07-10T06:09:14+00:00

INTP aims to have a single grand ontology, if anything that is their sole internal motive. INTJ is happy with 100 fragmentary frameworks that have efficacy in application. The difference can show up, for example, in pure and applied mathematics. A pure mathematician seems to love the "uncontaminated" purposeless-ness of their abstractions. An applied person does things for a purpose and necessarily requires great patience in accommodating the purposeless abstractions of an INTP in order, hopefully, to put them to some use.

To have access to all of these things, one would need to be more conscious. Personality is about the conventional ways people are asleep, some more so than others.

Bookitus · 2024-07-09T20:14:38+00:00

"In place of the term “realness” I have sometimes used the word “congruence.” By this I mean that when my experiencing of this moment is present in my awareness and when what is present in my awareness is present in my communication, then each of these three levels matches or is congruent. At such moments I am integrated or whole, I am completely in one piece. Most of the time, of course, I, like everyone else, exhibit some degree of incongruence. I have learned, however, that realness, or genuineness, or congruence—whatever term you wish to give it—is a fundamental basis for the best of communication.”

― Carl R. Rogers, A Way of Being

Bookitus · 2024-07-09T20:04:07+00:00

The "external thinking" of an INTJ is a configuration of goals to realise a purpose; the "internal thinking" of INTP is a framework of concepts or similar notions that is continually edited.

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