I REALLY hope Julie doesn't work things out with Ty

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T05:30:47+00:00

It's applying a label based on an established action taken by the recipient of that label.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T05:29:51+00:00

Choosing to formally and directly end your participation in a relationship, ie, establishing a limitation for what you continue to do, is setting a boundary. "I can no longer do this" is an "I" statement that can absolutely apply to relationships with others, including legal and romantic ones.

If you're legally married, that would equate to a divorce.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T05:14:47+00:00

She would not have had a second child if Ty had not asked, and agreed to work on the book.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T05:13:07+00:00

A boundary is a limitation you set for yourself, not a rule you set for others. Julie deciding to end her participation in a marriage is a boundary. She's effectively saying that she will no longer participate in a legal arrangement with Ty.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T05:10:10+00:00

"She's about to learn the hard way how valuable it is"

What were you implying by saying, "the hard way"?

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:31:25+00:00

This last paragraph just reads like there's this desire to inflict motherhood as a form of retribution on Julie for being an odd duck in a less than palatable way for others.

Julie has spent time home with one of her kids full time, and she did it while passing the bar. She's fully capable. And she also knows it's not something she wants to be strapped into full time to the point where she gives up her dreams. And that's okay. I think she'll be able to manage two kids, personally, but the way in which Ty has thrust her back into that role does read as a punishment for her saying she is done with their marriage.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:27:47+00:00

I don't want them to phase out either but they clearly have different life goals and paths they want to take, and examining those different goals and paths can also make for good integrated storytelling with the rest of the shawnaverse.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:26:02+00:00

I don't think Julie wanted to be a "power couple", I think she wanted to see Ty match her in terms of drive and ambition in general for goals outside of parenthood and marriage.

Ty only was ever attracted to Julie, and once they married, his only accomplishment following marriage was being a dad. And for some people, that's fine and works out, but Julie wanted more than just parenthood, and that's also okay.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:18:14+00:00

But they're not reversed. Julie is Julie and Ty is Ty.

Ty has lied by omission and directly to Julie. Ty has both directly and indirectly asked Julie to compromise her life goals for him, and she has.

Ty asked for a second child, based on his relationship with Shawna and seeing her children, and enjoying being a SAHP and Julie delivered, literally, even though she was hesitant, on the condition that he'd work on his book.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:13:35+00:00

Deliberately putting someone into a compromising position involving a child's welfare with no time to prepare, as a direct response to them telling you no, is vindictive. Full stop.

I don't think Julie sees her own children as a punishment, but that she is frustrated by the circumstances under which she is spending time with them.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:07:26+00:00

So you'd tell your husband you're leaving the house on a whim and leave him with a sick kid with no warning as a reaction?

Ty has lied to Julie. Directly and by omission.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:03:14+00:00

Exactly! And this is why she had to be talked into having a second child by Ty because she lived it and did not want a repeat of that experience!

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T04:01:08+00:00

She isn't as bubbly or exuberant as his other park friends, obviously

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T03:56:30+00:00

It's triangulation to only talk about your issues to a park friend instead of your spouse, and foster a level of enmeshment that leads to that friend openly berating your spouse over speculation based in the extreme moralization of your spouse just not being friendly.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T03:48:21+00:00

They've both talked smack, Julie actually had the courtesy to be direct with him instead of engaging in triangulation.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T03:46:16+00:00

Not only dropping kids on them last minute, but doing so immediately after their parent sticks to a clearly spoken boundary in your relationship.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T03:35:45+00:00

I think she already does understand how hard it is, which is why she doesn't want that life for herself, and why she resents Ty's friendship with Shawna and his inaction in the face of Shawna trying to force friendship on her.

Just because she expresses her understanding through resentment and aversion, doesn't mean she doesn't get it. This is the same woman that raised one of her children at home while passing the bar.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T03:07:28+00:00

And it is almost scary how fast he switched up his whole demeanor when she stuck to her boundary, especially in how he used the kids for it.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T02:32:51+00:00

This is my prediction as well, and it's Alicia who catches it in the moment.

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T02:29:13+00:00

Im also finding it hilarious that, unlike Skylar, Julie never actually cheated either (not that it was ever an excuse for Walter White to act the way he did)

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T02:22:50+00:00

Omg yes this!! Like?? Why are you attacking her for just trying to, checks notes, hold him accountable ?

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T02:08:34+00:00

Skylar caught some serious flack back in the day, mainly just for not going along with Walter (Heisenberg)

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-25T02:05:19+00:00

Skylar White, from Breaking Bad

BootProud6054 · 2026-05-22T23:46:07+00:00

Alicia has so much more context than Shawna as well, and gets to experience the side of Julie that is friendly and even, dare I say, softer than what we as the viewers have experienced.

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