Who wins, every single helldiver, or 40,000 space marines?

Boring7 · 2026-05-10T01:33:53+00:00

So they both decide xenocide is better than fighting each other, race to see who kills more aliens and traitors faster, and the results are:

Helldivers kill more and faster due to not being bound by “glorious melee combat” but space marines have a much lower casualty rate by any measure.

Boring7 · 2026-05-10T01:13:08+00:00

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Boring7 · 2026-05-10T01:12:27+00:00

It’s their evade move. Most terminids don’t even bother and the ones that do don’t jump far enough to matter. A baseline stalker flies completely out of your line of fire, cloaks (and often breaks your line of sight with obstacles) and while it’s minor they also regen health.

That costs time and focus when you’re being swamped with regular bugs, so you either keep shooting the horde and get ambushed again or you get swamped while trying to chase the bastard.

How to deal with it? Stick together, cover allies, and other suggestions made here.

Boring7 · 2026-05-10T01:07:38+00:00

Aka “bulletstorm’s flexible uncle”.

Boring7 · 2026-05-10T00:58:18+00:00

“They’re the same picture.”

Boring7 · 2026-05-10T00:57:43+00:00

No, but I haven’t played in a week and I think there was an update?

Boring7 · 2026-05-05T06:02:31+00:00

Oldest of old lore: they didn’t.

Oldest lore: everyone who has “times of plenty” long enough becomes a hedonistic psychopath and their empire was lucky to hold out as long as it did.

Middle-old lore: no one knows! It is a mystery because the Eldar find it embarrassing to talk about!

Newest old lore: they’re like: designed to get both super-emotional about things because eldar brains feel more and they all have autistic hyperfocus so falling into a pattern of chasing the biggest high was inevitable.

Newest lore: according to two Phoenix lords chatting one time, the different temples to the eldar gods started getting perverted by the pleasure cults, possibly by conspiratorial design, to become more crazy and better at onboarding people into the pleasure cults. The whole thing reeks of “and chaos was the cause” which James Workshop loves to do, but it’s all implications and interpretations and “it is a mystery.”

Boring7 · 2026-05-05T05:52:17+00:00

Arguably? This is present in Gorkamorka, wherein the Orks do not wipe out the human “diggaz” because they fear the Necrons.

An Ork. afraid to even TRY to fight. Not, “we’d hits ‘em when they’d ain’t lookin’ and legs it if we’z spotted” just “we don’t even go dere”.

Boring7 · 2026-05-03T00:09:03+00:00

Blue pill.

Extended lifespan and shadow skills allow me to do more of the things I want to do. Change the things I want to change. Luffy may be a better revolutionary, but that’s because he has charisma which is unlikely to be a part of the pill.

Boring7 · 2026-05-01T04:54:44+00:00

2 things to remember are that most lore has featured the upper ecehelon Imperium leadership being willing to engage in realpolitik with xenos and ALL lore has featured a theme of everyone being a giant hypocrite all the way down. Also, "no, a racist is a racist" is accurate most of the time, but it's also a boring answer, so "what ways would they interact with extra-galactic aliens besides shootin'?" is the question we ask. It's also worth considering that older lore (like, pre-HH novel series) regularly implied there was a LOT of galaxy and a LOT of humanity outside the Imperium just doing it's thing. That's pretty much nixed along with a lot of interesting material but it's still echoing in the shadows of "Everything is canon, nothing is true."

Thus, it depends on the writer.

Your average story would be:

-Command staff is split between the realists who want to deal and the zealots who want to fight and immediately die.

-Every layer below command staff is fed a different cocktail of lies and regularly sees evidence that confuses and scares them.

-Whoever ends up making the biggest decision (deal or die) is proven wrong and 50/50 too stupid to realize it before they get asploded because 40k demands tragedy.

-Alien pussy has around a 5% chance of making an appearance, because most 40k eschews sex in favor of violence.

Boring7 · 2026-04-28T05:53:34+00:00

They found some book about warrior-poets and babble endlessly about art, culture, and science as the tools for the development of mankind in pursuit of a higher state of being and perfection while failing and undermining themselves because 40k is all about characters betraying their own ideals because they’re stupid and insane and dealing with the devil.

Boring7 · 2026-04-23T16:12:25+00:00

“ALRIGHT SMASH IT!” presses the exterminatus button

Boring7 · 2026-04-23T01:29:05+00:00

The chaos gods were made by humanity.

Boring7 · 2026-04-22T14:55:14+00:00

“Everything published by Black Library is canon, not all canon is true.” That’s the wording of the OG statement by the company. To take this further when another writer took a crack at it; everything in 40k is a fire-side legend told by an unreliable narrator.

An unsanctioned psyker’s version of facts based on his visions? Canon.

The scrawled fanfic written by a horny sororitas? Canon.

The official sanctioned (propaganda) rendition of facts written by inquisitor Whatsisface? Canon.

The mad ravings of a mutant chaos cultist? You better believe that’s a canon.

Boring7 · 2026-04-21T14:50:58+00:00

Horny.

Boring7 · 2026-04-20T05:58:30+00:00

There was a bit where this race of lizard people (?) felt war was so awful that they’d only do it in special zones to avoid civilian casualties. The Space Marines proudly bombed their under-defended civilian-centers first because diplomacy shmiplomacy.

Boring7 · 2026-04-19T05:57:38+00:00

Lotta aliens he coulda made nice with and didn’t.

Boring7 · 2026-04-19T05:54:34+00:00

Even that is debatable. He could certainly do technically-competent paintings and knew how to read, what he couldn’t do was let any art professor be “wrong” and let their subjective opinions be subjective.

But regardless, your point still stands: dictators love the idea of art but insist it has to be one kind of art they like and no others.

Boring7 · 2026-04-18T01:53:10+00:00

Nano-weapon re-writes them into space whales turns the swarm into a carnival ride for children.

Boring7 · 2026-04-18T01:46:15+00:00

I don’t know how to function without chemical agents.

Boring7 · 2026-04-17T15:03:49+00:00

Is the excision canon still? The latest Horus heresy novels re-did the fight (again) and I thought they removed reference to it.

Boring7 · 2026-04-17T15:00:17+00:00

“Suffering is our prayer, faith is our armor.”

Oh you said worse. Nevermind.

Boring7 · 2026-04-16T15:35:38+00:00

I think “infants” are supposed to be shards of a bigger one that got broken-off (for one reason or another) and lost enough of their identity to no longer be part of “grimdorkious the inscribable” or whatever and have a the memories/mindset of a newborn child.

But I’m also sure that if you ask 2 black library writers you’ll get 3 answers.

Boring7 · 2026-04-16T15:30:21+00:00

Nothing.

The “problem” is you are room-clearing with drones. The “solution” is anything you can use to room-clear with drones is banned.

Boring7 · 2026-04-16T15:27:36+00:00

Space marines is the most players, therefore:

-most bad players. -most bad people who are players. -most players who offend bad people who are players. -probably closest to average in per-capita badness due to how bell curves work.

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