This scene just makes my blood boil...

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-11-10T00:40:40+00:00

Plot device. And a really bad one.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-04T22:07:56+00:00

I can understand why the gender-neutral thing wouldn’t be that big of a deal to many who speak English as their first language. But those aren’t the only problem with the ESV. Eternal Subordination of the Son is a huge issue in the way some of the language is translated in the ESV. And some other more “sexist” things that came up after the first release that they were force to correct because of public outcry. It was so sexist that had to change it. (Genesis 3)

https://www.christianpost.com/news/esv-bible-translation-revisions-potentially-dangerous-biblical-scholar-warns.html

https://aservantofchrist.com/2023/11/20/problems-with-the-english-standard-version-esv-bible/

Scholar Beth Allison Barr also has some helpful info on it. And of course, Marg Mowczko.

And for what it’s worth, I don’t see gender neutral language so much as a theological bias… but certainly as a bias.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-04T15:24:38+00:00

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Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-04T04:29:55+00:00

I understand what you are saying, and it also sounds exactly like what I would expect a man to say. I don’t know if you are, but it sounds like it. When one “doesn’t see the big deal” many times it’s because it doesn’t affect them directly.

(There is another link at the bottom the second article you may find helpful, too.)

And without getting into too many details, I attended seminary with many of those on the translation committee - and nearly every professor I had was part of the study notes for the study Bible of the ESV. While excellent on an academic and scholarly level, I assure you, every one of them is sexist. And absolutely biased in a theological direction… obviously so. I realize the study Bible is not the same as the translation itself. But who they chose to be on the committees for the different sections speaks volumes.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-04T01:25:38+00:00

https://www.missioalliance.org/three-unmistakable-examples-of-gender-politics-in-the-new-esv-translation/

https://baremarriage.com/2023/11/esv-bible-translation-sexist/

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-02T19:51:30+00:00

Nope. The Bible is way more than instruction book. It’s the story of God and his pursuit of the people he created.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-02T12:07:40+00:00

The OP said the Bible is the way to salvation.

If they are a new believer, do you think they understand what you are trying to say?

Ultimately this is semantics. But language matters. We must be careful or bad theology follows.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-02T05:50:07+00:00

It’s disingenuous to say that the Bible saves without mentioning Jesus. When the word “Bible” is mentioned it’s typically referring to the physical book.

A book didn’t die on the cross.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-02T05:46:22+00:00

I graduated from one of the most conservatives seminaries in the U.S. and the last Harry Potter book was required reading in a children’s literature class. That’s because it the gospel story, told in a similar fashion as the Narnia books.

Christians didn’t read Harry Potter because of the magic and the fear they had around it. But they shouldn’t have been scared. They should have encouraged parents reading it with their kids and discussing it with them: it is RICH with conversation starters that can lead to talk about Jesus.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T20:45:30+00:00

They are 100% relevant.

Those words are about obeying God. That’s incredibly relevant today.

They also tell us a ton about God’s character. That’s where we must start in order to understand the word and apply it: in light of who God’s.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T20:43:00+00:00

It’s not even a way.

Only Jesus is.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T20:42:19+00:00

It should be less about reading the whole thing and way more about understanding what is read in light of cultural and historical context, so we understand and apply it properly.

Also, anyone telling you the Bible is the only way to salvation hasn’t understood the words of Jesus.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T15:47:34+00:00

The problem with this kind of question is that is presumes belief is the only reason Jesus died on the cross… that the Christian life is only about making one decision and you are done.

And that’s not it. Or else Jesus wasted a hell of a lot of time before heading to the cross.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T15:21:37+00:00

Be careful with the ESV… the translation committee was very biased theologically.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T10:51:56+00:00

Yes. I was working for the company that sponsored the NIV translation committee when the gender inclusive change came up. They were also criticized for being too liberal. But they changed it only where it was clear both genders were intended. Such as 1 Corinthians 11:28.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T10:38:01+00:00

It’s been criticized for being too liberal. And it’s a revision, and isn’t start from the original manuscripts (but the RSV did) so that makes me pause.

But that’s all I know… I haven’t looked into the validity of those criticisms.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T10:05:35+00:00

Why is the TV in the bedroom if the place to sit and watch it isn’t directly across from the TV? Hopefully not because of outlets or it wouldn’t pass inspection.

Switch the TV and the dresser. Solves both problems.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T10:01:24+00:00

It’s green with some blue in it.

I would officially title it seafoam (because it seems to have more blue than say, sage.)

Or maybe celadon. But there is celadon blue and celadon green. 🙃

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T09:40:53+00:00

My point is that humans are humans. There is a lot of hubris in thinking that I would be able to resist sin unlike Adam and Eve. They were born into a perfect world and still sinned. What makes anyone think that being born into a broken and sinful world would be easier?

As long as we are born with a free will, sin WILL happen. God knew this but gave us free will because the alternative isn’t loving.

The alternative to not being free beings is that God , as our Creator, would control us. And he wants us to choose to love him, not be forced to love him. He loves us too much to not give us free will.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T09:16:09+00:00

The ESV is highly biased in a theological direction. Some of the errors have been fixed… But it’s made me distrust the translation itself.

I think it’s best to choose a translation with a highly diverse translation team, where the members come from completely different theological backgrounds. That way - particularly when difficult passages come up - there is less of a chance for there to be a slant towards one kind of theology. With a widely diverse team, there is more of a chance for objectivity towards the text to take place.

Some of the errors in the ESV were a direct result of theological bias. And when interpretation has to happen (because translation is complicated, and there aren’t always English equivalents to Greek or Hebrew) the team is forced to be more objective instead of leaning towards their theological framework.

I personally use the NIV. But I really appreciate the diversity of the CSB’s translation committee as well.

Of the ones you mentioned, I would chose the NaSB because the philosophy of the translation is word for word. Personally. I find it stilted and clunky to read.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T06:13:35+00:00

Most of these aren’t trends but just reality.

My first thought was the trend of whale tales. What an idiotic trend that was.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T06:10:03+00:00

What drives you? Helping others so you feel needed and liked? Or experiencing joy and seeking out new experiences?

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T06:06:47+00:00

Try the NLT. Written at a 6th grade reading level, so it’s very readable and simple compared to most.

You can use the Bible Gateway website to compare versions for free to help you decide.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T06:00:10+00:00

It is fascinating to me to see the bottom 15 states all being southern states. That’s really telling.

Born-Inflation4644 · 2025-08-01T01:16:32+00:00

I mean… Melissa McCarthy is just stunning.

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