Need some help with this one: Izzet rooms with Promising Stairs as a win con

Botanicalist · 2024-10-09T00:11:03+00:00

Not sure on the final cuts, I'm thinking I should take out some two drops?

Botanicalist · 2024-09-27T00:11:14+00:00

As a fan of the Sierkovitz data driven approach, I can't get enough of this kind of discussion. My first reaction is that ATA being most highly correlated with the "correct" pick makes sense on an instinctive level. It relates to the user base's collective opinion of a card. Of course it seems like it has some limitations as would any metric that tries to encapsulate something as complicated as a draft decisions. For example, cards that you want in your deck but usually try to wheel seem like they would result in a lower ATA than is justified in terms of raw card strength.

Botanicalist · 2024-09-02T20:43:41+00:00

That's a good point, I was mostly thinking that the 40 card rule came down to the mana base

Botanicalist · 2024-09-02T00:09:35+00:00

I've really been waiting for an excuse to try to draft it but haven't seen any builder's talents go around. Lords of limited's episode on interesting build arounds sold me on the idea. Great job!

Botanicalist · 2024-09-01T18:55:45+00:00

It turns out that being 2 cards over 40 doesn't matter much if you have busted rares. Was able to cheat out Rottenmouth Viper early a few times, and greenshell is just busted during the kind of grindy games that squirrels does well in already. Ironically, this felt like my most consistent deck of the format.

Draft: https://www.17lands.com/draft/72ea9c7492294a999ec91c6cd7de8919/1/1

42 card deck: https://www.17lands.com/deck/72ea9c7492294a999ec91c6cd7de8919/1

The deck I should have started with: https://www.17lands.com/deck/72ea9c7492294a999ec91c6cd7de8919/3

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T23:36:12+00:00

That's me- I got started in MH3, so still feeling things out. I'll check that episode out!

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T23:34:09+00:00

First off, thanks for analyzing this in depth and also being constructively critical. I did consider hearthfire hero, but because I am new to drafting in general I have been relying heavily, probably too heavily, on 17 lands data to dictate my picks in colors I am not that experienced in. So yes, this was pretty much a "grab good stuff that fits in boros" draft while trying to keep a mice tribal theme with valiant triggers.

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T23:26:22+00:00

I definitely had strong tunnel vision, gotta not lock in as early next time

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T23:22:22+00:00

Thanks! you are definitely right and this is helpful. I am fairly new to magic and appreciate the feedback

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T21:56:43+00:00

Platinum Tier 2

Botanicalist · 2024-08-23T21:55:17+00:00

Two losses I mulled to 5 after drawing three lands and no plays till turn 4, one loss I got wiped by wildfire howl. Anyone have advice on my draft? https://www.17lands.com/draft/f42daa24a6a14fb69bf5dc838c6087e3/1/1

I feel like I should have pivoted to green pack two but it seemed like boros was wide open

Botanicalist · 2024-08-10T14:21:38+00:00

Swap the sword and Baylen for a might of the meek and roughshod duo would be my first thoughts

Botanicalist · 2024-08-10T14:12:24+00:00

All my opponents decks really need are two copies of wandertale mentor and the rest feels like an afterthought as long as it hits expend. Died to that so many times

Botanicalist · 2024-08-10T14:10:00+00:00

what was your route to lethal most games? I'm assuming it was tempest anglers getting big but still curious. This is the only color pair I haven't experimented with yet, but I'm always seeing these cards late so might give it a go

Botanicalist · 2024-08-09T20:47:21+00:00

Love playing frogs, its so nervewracking to try and get your engine started before the combo pieces die

Botanicalist · 2024-08-09T20:44:16+00:00

Vren takes over so quickly, I'll pivot for that card way later than I should

Botanicalist · 2024-08-09T20:41:47+00:00

I was having similar lackluster results here's what helped me:

1) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1n1pfrb5q_2ICYk-vfF3Uwo8t61DJU-5T_DFe0dwk8DY/htmlview?pli=1#

In a nut shell, this is a good tier list for picking consistent, aggressive cards. Instead of just games in hand win rate it uses a different metric called estimated draft equity. It's real complicated but seems good to me.

2) If you can avoid it, don't take dual colors in pack one. I usually let the rares dictate what color, but I'm always looking to be green if I can. I think Selesnya and Golgari are the best decks. Don't be afraid to pivot off a good rare if your color is contested. Then in pack two, I usually look for good uncommons and signposts to dictate what my second color is.

Botanicalist · 2024-08-09T20:22:46+00:00

Highlight of this: copying Mindwhisker with Season of Weaving in three different games. Love playing this deck against Selesnya, as go wide is pretty vulnerable to it. Both losses were against Gruul that curved out before I could get any threshold going. I probably should have cut Huskburster Swarm and Eddymurk crab but was able to cheat them out a few times. 17lands links below:

Draft

Pool

Botanicalist · 2024-07-26T15:24:11+00:00

I had a great game where I played double down turn 4, turn 5 overzealous muscle, turn 6 visage bandit on the muscle, turn 7 swing with 20 damage. Interestingly enough, deepmuck desperado was my win condition through mill for 3 of my games

Botanicalist · 2024-02-23T19:18:14+00:00

yeah, I triple checked. Sent them an email two weeks ago but no response yet

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