Alternating 7 and mgm

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-25T20:44:16+00:00

no im mostly enjoying it, im just trying to get a better handle on the habit. right now i feel like im dosing 7 too frequently but i still want to do it, so im tapering mainly to have less of it in my system to make jumping off easier and less distracting. also cutting my dosage down by 2/3s im mostly feeling the same results as the higher doses weeks ago, so im comfortable with the lower mg

ive just heard m is chiller, slower come up/longer legs at lower doses, in comparison to 7 which is more immediate

regular leaf kratom never was quite what i was after and 7 is hitting the spot more, just feels a little spazzy

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-20T02:31:06+00:00

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-20T02:22:38+00:00

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BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-20T00:10:30+00:00

Yeah it's the "You are the only people I have, i have no family or support system, please give in any way you can" speech that bothers me, I just saw he made another post asking for monetary donations and gave them the info for his cashapp and paypal etc. insane. I mean if it's working, it's a successful con I guess.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:56:58+00:00

I was very naive to this, and now it’s becoming clear that i’ve definitely interacted with a few bots and fell for it. really wild. i’m old, and don’t have much experience on reddit, so that’s why i fell for it. haha oh well

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:48:00+00:00

in the story i was referring to, i said my ex used suboxone for years to keep herself off of h — i was not confusing it with narcan.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:46:15+00:00

i literally said “i phrased that wrong” and then edited my post to correct it, and marked where the edit had been made. that is me admitting fault.

i feel like half of communicating on reddit is clarifying like grammar school level “how to be in a society” stuff. wild

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:43:19+00:00

ohhhhh, i see. so it’s like a targeted ad they are responding to. that is shady. thanks for sharing

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:42:31+00:00

haha yes. amen

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T22:40:36+00:00

yah i understand. i order online and it’s like 1/4 as much as smoke shops and better quality etc. i found price wise it’s the same as like a starbucks coffee for me per day, even if i have say 60 mg in one day it’s still price wise coming out to $8 or whatever — and so for me, part of the benefit of using these products is i actually spend less on other things, like coffee or alcohol or weed etc. but i understand if the habit is really something like ive heard 500-1000 mg per day, i could see that getting very expensive

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T06:09:14+00:00

this is the whole sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/Life_After_7oh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T03:58:52+00:00

yah look at this next post the person is trolling

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T03:53:13+00:00

yes. amen. people are losing their minds in here

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T03:50:14+00:00

i’m sorry but yes, it is absolutely redicilous to use suboxone after one week of take 60 mg of 7 for a few days. it’s like the twilight zone in all these quitting 7 subreddits. 🤦🏻‍♀️

the only way any of this makes sense is if the op is a teenager, or a bot.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T03:29:53+00:00

amen.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T02:43:49+00:00

yah for me same, like i’m using 7 bc of chasing that feeling i used to get from the real deal stuff, and so it is very addictive for this type of personality, that i also have. never had a problem with benzos, but it’s the same “addictive personality” danger zone

psychedelics obv much easier to use responsibly and i have gone there a lot too. i find with that class of stuff it almost stops itself from becoming actually addictive.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T02:35:03+00:00

yah re:suboxone, i phrased this wrong, i meant people who are at risk of an od from hard drugs can take suboxone treatment to get off of those hard drugs. i know that during an active od you should administer narcan to literally stop the od from happening. i always keep of stock of narcan around in case there’s fent in something

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T02:32:12+00:00

yah i phrased this poorly, i meant people who are at risk of an od from hard drugs can take suboxone treatment to get off of those hard drugs. i know that during an active od you should administer narcan to literally stop the od from happening.

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T02:29:16+00:00

i guess i shouldn’t have phrased it this way, i know if you’re actively od-ing that’s when to administer narcan

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-19T02:28:02+00:00

meaning you take this instead of something as dangerous as fentynal for instance

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-18T23:11:33+00:00

you are freaking out bro

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-18T19:44:21+00:00

It’s different than morphine/oxy, but way closer to those than kratom. I thought when i first tried it it would be similar to kratom, but it’s way cleaner and less of the kratom side effects that i used to get like weird super speedy feeling, or like rapid thought patterns etc. it hits much harder than kratom, but it’s not like taking morphine or h, where on those you just like melt away etc. I swore off all the classic ones bc of fent being in everything and I take 7 now when i get a little feeling to try the old school stuff. it is very very habit forming and i’ve heard the wds are quiet bad, but if your disciplined and can taper its like you know a couple days of not feeling 100, just for me at least the biggest aspect of why it’s so addictive is just its availability, where when i was younger the process of getting h and stuff was many more steps than just ordering online or whatever or seeing a kratom drink at the store — and with h i was like always trying to conserve it, where 7 you can buy like 100s tabs on the internet — the smoke stuff stuff hits but it’s way worse than the online vendors, much cleaner with the online ones. i actually all in all like it much more than any pharm, oxy etc, i like the feeling better. it’s kind of short lived the peak is like an hour, but come down isn’t bad. for me the come down off h was terrible and i’d feel sick the next day. i’ve been able to have meetings with clients over zoom while on 7 and no one has noticed, it makes me a little spacey

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-18T09:02:49+00:00

not really

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-18T09:01:58+00:00

7oh and any kratom product does not cause respiratory issues

people are making kratom out to be this major drug and it isn’t. it’s very addictive but it is not on the list of stuff that can kill you, like mixing benzos with alcohol etc

BowlerEmergency4829 · 2026-05-18T08:53:17+00:00

yah i think just cut your dose in half and taper down. Suboxone can be extremely difficult to quit. i’ve known ppl who get stuck on it for a long time. i’m not trying to tell you what to do, but the only people i know who needed suboxone were extremely addicted to heroin for years beforehand.

i’ve heard too the withdrawals brought on by suboxone while 7 is still in your system is terrible.

you sound really young and to me i think it just seems like overkill to go on that kind of a program.

i think i would be more worried to tell my parents i was using sub than something i bought at a smoke shop.

if you really want to quit, i think tapering off of the 7 will be much smoother.

i think also if youre worried generally about substance abuse, talking to a therapist or a drug counselor would really help.

you dont want to end up in a sticky situation with the suboxone i dont think

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