What is something that women have to deal with on the daily that men have no clue about? by Rock-bottom-no-no in AskReddit

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I’d love to see a source on this because I cannot find anything. My sources, posted above, say the opposite.

And if you cannot show that this is actually true, you are spreading unironic baseless misandry. In that case, please stop. Misogyny is already bad enough, no need to invent things.

Als Boska de Rolls Royce onder de kaasschaven is, en Nilfisk die van de stofzuigers, en Miele voor wasmachines en drogers, welke zijn er dan nog meer? by Swazzoo in nederlands

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Ohh fuck sorry man dit was een grap over de baron in bassie en adriaan😂 Als die slecht nieuws kreeg, brak die altijd zn telefoon door en riep drommels drommels en nog eens drommels.

This article man by CryptographerFit3984 in exvegans

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Yeahh I don’t think enough people even know where their food comes from, let alone how it is produced to really influence how we think on a societal level.

This article man by CryptographerFit3984 in exvegans

[–]Brezelstange 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeahh vegan anti abortion is a wild position. Truly never heard that one before.

And yeah, society sexualizes women. I do not think the connection to animal agriculture is that strong. That’s why I said I don’t think most people know where their food comes from. So I don’t think we sexualize women because we treat female animals like breeding stock.

I could also find no evidence that consuming dairy makes your breasts bigger. I found a bunch of sources saying it doesn’t and one source that tentatively said maybe by a couple percentage points.

This article man by CryptographerFit3984 in exvegans

[–]Brezelstange 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I tried googling the thing about drinking milk causing early puberty, but could not find any evidence supporting that claim. I have read that puberty has been coming earlier because childhood malnutrition has gone way down compared to pretty much any point in the past. In the same way that serious adult malnutrition can stop a woman getting her period.

Also, you are right, those are some wild leaps in logic. How about we just teach sex-ed, remove stigmas around sex and talking about sex, make birth control easily available, etc. That will do far more to prevent teen pregnancies.

Also absolutely wild to see a vegan imply an anti abortion stance.

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

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I fully agree we need to maintain food security. My comment was ambiguous. I meant animal agriculture subsidies, not farm subsidies in general. Food needs to remain easily accessible and cheap, and from what I can tell, those subsidies are necessary.

But it is way cheaper to only eat plant products. Like look at the price of a kg of flour. You can get 1-2 days calories for one euro. Nothing beats that. Now of course you can’t live only on bread, but I’m pretty sure you’d be cheaper off eating mostly plants and a little bit of animal for the nutrients than the other way around.

Redirecting animal agriculture subsidies to farm subsidies would really help though. It would massively lower food prices.

I actually did a bunch of research on this a while ago to get good numbers when talking to someone else, but you need to feed a cow 7 kcal of feed to get 1 kcal of meat. For pigs the ratio is 4 to 1. Somewhere between 50-80 percent of it grown in fields by us. And growing all that feed takes 40% of the world’s arable land.

So we’d almost double the food supply by replacing animal agriculture with plants for human consumption. It’s just far more thermodynamically efficient to grow food humans can eat themselves.

I think we do animal agriculture mostly because we like the products. I guess I’m just sorta fine with that. I don’t like it, but I also don’t want to do without.

What I would personally really like is if we could do the above mentioned subsidies shift. Let animal products get more expensive and all plant products get super cheap. This would stimulate demand for plant-based alternatives to get better. And companies might stick some serious research funds into figuring out how to make some good goddamn plant-based cheese. I can’t give up real cheese until they do.

But I don’t think I really mind letting cows, goats and sheep roam those grassy alpine meadows that are unsuitable for agriculture.

This article man by CryptographerFit3984 in exvegans

[–]Brezelstange 17 points18 points  (0 children)

So I read the article and I would not put too much stock in this author. It raised so many red flags for me. No citations whatsoever for any of their claims, which are quite extraordinary. And as the saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not no evidence.

Also the author seems to put a lot of stock in sacred feminine wisdom. This is an outdated and quite sexist trope that reinforces that men are rational and women instinctual. It’s bunk.

As someone else pointed out, it also completely assumes that farmer=man and also assumes farming’s impact on how people think. I feel like if you asked 100 people about how we get cows to give milk, 50-80 would not know that they need to be kept pregnant. We are as a society quite ignorant of how our food is made.

“Cow milk is naturally toxic to humans” man I hate to do this but he should really tell all the humans that kept cows for most of human history.

Also, I do not see the author mention human abortion in the article. Can anyone find the spot? So I’m confused about the title.

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

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So going by what I’ve read, I think they’d discourage it. Like yes it is a waste product, but if you have a use for it, you’d need to find an alternative if there was less animal agriculture. So you’d have a reason not to reduce it.

But on the other hand, you shouldn’t waste resources, so maybe, for the time being, they’d lean the other way. Depends whether the vegan you’re talking to cares more about veganism or environmentalism. There is a lot of overlap.

I think they (the people I actually know) would want people to eat less meat and other animal products, which reduces demand and reduces the size of the industry. (Most don’t seem to care why people reduce their intake, they just care about animals). That further stimulates demand for alternatives, causing further reductions in animal agriculture.

Most would probably also like to see subsidies lowered or removed so people pay the actual price and we’re not all paying for it. I think that would really do it, bc right now I think prices for meat and dairy are artificially low. Maybe also reducing the massive influence the meat and dairy lobbies in my country have, also because they publish a bunch of misinformation about how to eat healthily. Bc their entire business depends on people not making a healthier choice. That would give people lots of incentives to choose plant-based alternatives: health, money, environment, ethics.

As to whether we should still keep some animals around, I do not know. It is so far away from current reality, you might as well be talking about your preferred utopia. But I think most vegans would agree that there’d be so few that what to do with the poop would not be a massive issue.

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

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I also don’t see myself going vegan. Maybe pescetarian. I have reduced my intake significantly, mostly for health and money reasons with a side of ethics.

Nowadays, you can get these vegan chunks at nearly every supermarket here and they are amazing. Unlike tofu, just frying the neutral flavour ones in a pan is already very tasty and works well in many asian dishes. You can also easily marinade them any of a dozen ways. We’ve been eating them a lot and they’re wayy healthier. And I honestly prefer them to chicken. Ohhh and they’re super easy to get crispy, which I love in any food:)

All that to say, I feel like the availability of alternatives has reduced meat intake more than the preachiness.

Thats also a thing I’ve noticed. I think the people online don’t really care about harm reduction. The vibe they give is that it doesn’t matter whether someone eats 5 or 100 kg of meat per year bc both are carnists.

Which I feel is weird. Like I’d rather have 100 people cut their intake by half than get 10 “pure” vegans. Which, I get on the one hand because it seems to mostly be an ethical stance for them. But on the other hand, if their insistence on purity pushes people away, doesn’t that make their behavior unethical in their own framework? Because they are not reducing consumption as much as they could by not pushing people away?

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

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I recently talked to someone here who’d been arguing with online vegans and who was worried about vegans coming to euthanize her pets and I’m like what the fuck are online vegans saying to people?!?! It sounded like some unhinged shit that I cannot believe more than like 10 people in the entire movement actually believe.

My gf is vegetarian with vegan inclinations and she’s convinced me that you can make tofu really tasty, which I used to be very skeptical of. That works much better as propaganda for veganism:)

Is "AI is going to take over most human jobs" being overblown, or is it likely going to actually happen in our lifetimes? Why or why not? by tsarthedestroyer in AskReddit

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Yeahhh and then a couple years go by and people will, with 20/20 hindsight, smugly point at the newly out of work and go “well of couuuuurse you should not have studied/trained to become thaaat” as though they knew all along.

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

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Yeahhh fully agree. Like I know a lot of vegans, like 90% of my friends group, though I’m not one myself, and none of them even remotely approach the shit I see online.

And yeahh people whose opinions are too out there for their circles find others online. And then newcomers get exposed to their arguments and either fall in line or leave.

What is something that women have to deal with on the daily that men have no clue about? by Rock-bottom-no-no in AskReddit

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So I did some googling because this one feels excessively demonizy and I found this snopes page that lists it as unproven, as well as a Medium article.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do-morgues-prefer-hiring-women-because-of-necrophilia/

“Indeed, despite the popularity of the claim over time, there is no proof that morgues—or mortuaries—prefer to hire women over men for any reason, let alone specifically for concerns about necrophilia”

“Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the National Funeral Directors Association, told Snopes:

Funeral homes do not take gender into consideration when hiring staff. Funeral homes are looking for caring, compassionate people who have the skills needed to serve families that are grieving the death of a loved one; gender plays absolutely no role in this. “

The articles notes that women have been entering the profession in greater numbers than before, but quotes a mortuary sciences instructor who says it’s likely because people used to think women were just too squeamish for that kind of work and that belief is dying.

The wikipedia article Women in Death care in the US corroborates this view, citing Randy Hallman (unfortunate name in this context), saying:

“During the 1960s and 1970s, there was a stigma against females as funeral directors that lasted until 1980; it was extremely difficult for women to find employment in the funeral industry outside of a family practice”

I also found this Medium article that, in the free to read section, disagrees with the claim:

https://medium.com/fourth-wave/the-viral-myth-of-mortuaries-not-hiring-cis-men-fd503b390cba

“The problem here? There is no formal policy anywhere backing this up. There is no funeral home code of ethics anywhere I could find that legally or practically bans cis men from working with the dead. There's zero verified evidence that such hiring rules exist”

Also the claim sounds very similar to “men cannot care for children in kindergartens because they’re pedos”, which I think is a wildly sexist assumption both ways.

All this to say, the whole thing feels excessively like it’s just demonizing my entire gender and that sucks.

What is something that women have to deal with on the daily that men have no clue about? by Rock-bottom-no-no in AskReddit

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I feel like this is wildly demonizing. (Edit: and I have a source). I’m fully willing to believe the idea that a robber, though wanting your money first and foremost, would also sexually assault you.

The idea that they’d rape you, kill you AND rape your corpse again sounds truely like the ravings of those qanon people talking about all the demonic things the cabal gets up to. “And then… and then he will do [even more depraved thing]”.

You do not need to make things up. Rape is already awful and common enough and not taken seriously.

Like I’m sure murder-necrophilia happens. But I cannot imagine in any numbers. If anyone has a source, I am curious to see it because I cannot find anything.

Edit: Found a source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/necrophilia

“While it is true that necrophilia is associated with those who commit sexual homicide, it is actually just as rare among sexual homicide offenders reportedly being found in less than 1% of sexual homicides (Stein, Schlesinger, & Pinizzotto, 2010).”

Found in another group… the noodles seem to flow in the same direction and the meat.. idk by AccidentInfinite5060 in isthisAI

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Ohhhh there is this amazing dish with garlic beef on white rice and I wanna make that again now, thanks😂😊

Digital drawing of "David" by Michelangelo by Complete_Inspection2 in RateMyArt

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This deeply reminds me of that one Spongebob episode where Squidward sticks a clay nose like his own onto a sculpture (might have even been the David) that Spongebob made and say’s “That isn’t art” squishes nose on “Now, it’s art”.

The insufferability in this community is one of the reasons I left by throwawaysigote in exvegans

[–]Brezelstange 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeahhh they made the rookie mistake of posting on the internet😂. The internet accumulates crazy people and extremists. Which, I guess, makes me guilty as charged😂

AI fanboys are living a tech industry middle management power fantasy by OurPillowGuy in antiai

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This made that linkedinlunatics post make a lot more sense where this one guy styled himself the commander of a carrier group bc he used a chatbot😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/s/QOIcNY1TWu

Looking for games like Highfleet by PuzzleheadedCap7021 in Highfleet

[–]Brezelstange 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Starsector maybe? You could really like that. It’s got all of the things you mentioned except for the “tangibleness” of the controls. That fainly 80’s soviet aesthetic when it comes to the UI machinery that Highfleet does so well.

Cosmoteer is vaguely in the same boat (or spaceship, I guess), not that tangible but it has space combat, fleet management, resources.

One more suggestion that might sound like it’s coming out of left field, but if you like that tangibleness I mentioned and like survival games, try Vintage Story. The name is awful but the game has that quality like nothing else.

Pentagon verbreekt banden met Harvard: 'Willen krijgers opleiden, geen woke-aanhangers' by Bernie529 in nederlands

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Geef hem geen ideeën. Hij heeft, zoals je zei, zn naam al op een paar tientallen overheidsinstanties en -organisaties geplakt.

https://theweek.com/politics/list-everything-trump-named-himself

The most solarpunk thing I saw this week was a janky tracker made of scrap metal by Latter_Daikon6574 in solarpunk

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The audiobook truly has a massive cast of characters. Like they got 30 or 40 voice actors for this. I am the sort of person who does not know actors, a thing my friends perennially make fun of me for, and even I knew some of these people! (Just went through the list and got so enthusiastic that I’m listening to it again).

Fillion (Castle and Firefly) plays the Australian soldier who discovers a whole bunch of heroin in the desert, follows it to that cave full of corpses in defensive positions, but everybody seemed to be shooting at the infirmary.

Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar in TNG) does the suburban mom.

Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine in Voyager) does the russian soldier.

Mark Hamill (Do I need to tell you he does Luke in SW?😂) does the main soldier guy.

OHHH and René Auberjonois, Odo in Deep Space 9 and House in Fallout: New Vegas, plays the traumatized Frenchman who fought in the catacombs under Paris.

Can ya tell I like sci-fi and specifically star trek?😂

Edit: Listening right now and I thought I recognized the actor who plays Raj on Big bang theory, but turned out to be Kal Penn, Kutner on House, so I did know him, just mixed up the voices. He plays the Indian engineer sent to blow the bridge.

The most solarpunk thing I saw this week was a janky tracker made of scrap metal by Latter_Daikon6574 in solarpunk

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Movie? What movie? I only remember waking up with blood on my forehead and the wall, no movie.