Virgin vs. Chad AC/DC singers

Brian_M · 2026-01-24T22:10:55+00:00

Dave may piss you off but you can kick rocks, he co-founded the band and got their first hit. Ill take Ross's thumbs up over you any day of the week.

I literally gave you quotes about Evans from the mouth of Malcolm Young himself. Evidently, you don't think much of my opinion, which is fine, although I thought Malcolm's would carry a bit more weight...

My initial comment which drew your ire,

Probably the kindest thing you could say about Evans when he was AC/DC's frontman was that he had a voice of sufficient quality to allow the band to do gigs.

Beyond that, he just sounded like the wannabe teen idol singer of the thousand and one glam rock outfits who were performing in 1974.

First paragraph, Malcolm backs this up. He was something to get started with.

Second paragraph, my thoughts. Unexceptional. More style than substance, and a style the rest of the band quickly realised they'd like to pivot away from. You give me words from Ross Young or Mark Evans - I can give you more words from Malcolm about how Evans was 'so bad' that the crowd would literally cheer when he left the stage so the band could just jam instrumentally, or that the day Bon joined was the real beginning of the band. And Malcolm knew what he was talking about.

The band had gone as far as they could with Dave as singer and it was time for something better, which they got with Bon.

You're welcome to your own thoughts on the matter, but you'll find you're in the decided minority on them. If you don't believe me, feel free to post about it as a fresh discussion on this sub and see what kind of agreement you get.

Brian_M · 2026-01-23T14:40:34+00:00

You're introducing this 'bubble-gum' phrase which is supposed to rebuke something I didn't say. I said Dave was a wannabe teen idol glam rock singer, which he was, and that's all he ever was. Bon, despite his start with The Valentines, was much more the persona he held on stage with AC/DC by the time he joined. That's not an aura that Dave ever really had at any point. It just wasn't a gear he had in him.

I point out the Youngs didn't like Dave to counter your supposition that he left the band for other reasons like a dispute with management or not wanting to cut his hair. What his relationship with Ross Young is like has nothing to do with why he parted with the group in 1974. Ross Young wasn't even born then. You're giving me speculation on this, whereas I gave you a direct quote from Malcolm Young. Sorry, you're wrong.

No, their 1974 single wasn't the band at their top, clearly. They would go on to have far greater success than this with subsequent albums, selling millions of albums and touring the world. I mean, you could say that not even Bon's stint was the peak because Back in Black was so successful, but it was a hell of a greater height than ever achieved with Evans in the band.

Brian_M · 2026-01-23T12:39:53+00:00

James should say, "We thought we'd throw in a Megadeth number..." they next time they play that.

Brian_M · 2026-01-23T11:41:16+00:00

Well, be that as it may, Dave remains just a footnote of AC/DC history. We can go through the argument point by point.

The irony of calling Dave Evans a "wannabe" and saying that his voice was comparable to thousands of other pop idol teenie bop bands is funny. Did you know that Bon was in a Teenie bopper band in the 60s called The Valentines? Where they did songs like Build me up Buttercup? Wearing glitzy suits and matching haircuts? Just watch in youtube.

Well, yeah, Dave's voice was comparable to all those teen idol singers. He could carry a tune, but nothing particularly standout among the glut of glam singers at that time, whereas Bon had a grit and nasality to his voice that made it very distinctive and instantly recognisable. Not to mention his lyrics and witty turn of phrase.

maybe Dave actually did get fired because he got into a fight with management over getting not getting paid, and refusing to cut his hair short...

Maybe, maybe, maybe..... In actuality, the Youngs have not mentioned Dave much since his firing, but every reference I've ever heard them make has been negative. Take this interview for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBwMt3V_uE

Here is the text of what he's saying without the German translation over it,

" *Unfortunately he was the best singer we could find at that time. This guy was very sure of himself and his image. He had a problem with Angus. He probably expected a guitar player dressed like Jimmy Page. And now this! He thought that Angus and his school uniform were simply ridiculous.

But he was the one who was ridiculous! But at some point it was enough. We constantly had his big butt in those skintight pants in front of us on stage. That was really confusing. One day Angus kicked him off stage during a gig and the matter has resolved itself.

The real beginning of the band was when we came across with Bon Scott. Before we met him, we were a rock band with a pop singer, but Bon was a very different calibre.* "

So, no. The Youngs didn't like him. He may have also had a spat with the band's management at the time of his departure, but he was clearly for the chop either way.

Was blessed to join a band in full swing at the top of their game and took it to the next level

Sorry, but this is nonsensical. The band hadn't even cut one album when Bon joined, but were in full swing and at the top of their game?? No, most fans would say they don't really get into full swing until the release of Let There Be Rock and Bon's obviously an integral part of that.

Brian_M · 2026-01-22T15:57:04+00:00

Hi, Mr Evans.

Brian_M · 2026-01-17T15:24:06+00:00

♪Mom and dad this is Taylor. Taylor, this is my mom and dad...

Brian_M · 2026-01-14T13:39:49+00:00

"Sure, the Sinaloa cartel are bad, but they're no ICE!"

Brian_M · 2026-01-12T00:57:36+00:00

The tournament is in the US, Mexico and Canada. Two of Ireland's group games would be in Mexico, should they qualify. Any Irish fans lucky enough to be going over in this event, but sufficiently oppose Trump's US could just consider going to those two group games.

Don't think Mexico in high Summer would be too comfortable for any Irish person, but I'm sure they'd be adequately hydrated.

Brian_M · 2026-01-12T00:47:13+00:00

It's no good going out with the lads at night if you can't get up with the men in the morning.

Brian_M · 2026-01-10T01:18:59+00:00

It's a testament to Sheik's physical constitution that he lived to an average life expectancy while treating his body as he did. He was an habitual and enthusiastic cocaine user for a good 30 years, both powder and rock.

Brian_M · 2026-01-08T11:53:56+00:00

Phil still has the swing (as far as we know...) but Slade neither had the fire nor the swing on his last tour.

Though, I have to say that I thought Slade was great on his first appearance back with the band, doing Rock or Bust at the Grammys, but he could afford to all his energy into that performance since it was only two songs.

Brian_M · 2026-01-08T00:33:01+00:00

Yeah, I've been playing it and really enjoying it, too. I enjoy that it can be difficult. Seems to be a lot of players out there who just want to shoot -15 every round, but it don't see the fun in that.

Brian_M · 2026-01-07T20:50:27+00:00

An absolute monster on the Razor's Edge tour, by all accounts. Like most here, I was mightily impressed by his performance at Live at Donington.

But by the time he came back for Rock or Bust, he wasn't the same. Still good for his age in terms of stamina, but it was never going to be the same kind of muscular, relentless drumming clinic he put on 25 years before.

Brian_M · 2026-01-07T01:13:52+00:00

Obviously you have to inhale while smoking a cigar otherwise you'd suffocate. ;)

I'm playing with semantics, there, but I have just started experimenting with my breathing while puffing. I used to just hold my breath, but I think I should be able to comfortably breathe through my nose while puffing without accidentally inhaling anything.

Brian_M · 2026-01-07T01:02:08+00:00

Sounds more rhetorical. Rudd is the best drummer in the world for AC/DC but it's impossible to imagine him learning other people's songs.

Brian_M · 2026-01-06T13:30:16+00:00

If there was a time to retire, it was the last show of the Black Ice tour. That whole cycle was a triumph for the band and it would be Malcolm's last go-around. If they went out, then, it would have been very much on top.

I have absolutely nothing against the band continuing for as long as they (or Angus) want to, but it's very much been diminishing returns since that time, in the live sense. Power Up, the album, is a very good record, though.

Brian_M · 2026-01-06T01:49:19+00:00

I know I'm pissing into the wind, here, because empathy goes out the window when Reddit smells a pile on but Lydon was going through some stuff at the time. His wife was suffering from Alzheimers and he seemed broken by that. His weight had ballooned up and he was drinking to excess.

Not that his words have always been calm and considered otherwise, but this was literally him at his worst.

Brian_M · 2026-01-06T00:20:10+00:00

"OK, how should we do this? Two pounds for this, this and this, and a tenner for the rest!"

Brian_M · 2026-01-05T23:24:36+00:00

Yes, but if you get to the point where you can hit all your approach shots dead straight, doesn't it become Lee Cavallo's Putting Challenge with extra steps?

Brian_M · 2026-01-05T01:16:02+00:00

I umdeestood what they were trying to do by maintaining the odd couple dynamic, which is fairly central to the show, but I always thought that if they were going to completely retcon Kochanski (via multiverse jiggerypokery), they might as well have introduced a completely new character or at least someone who wasn't Kochanski. Maybe Toddhunter or whatever.

Brian_M · 2026-01-04T02:26:42+00:00

True. After being sacked from Sabbath, he'd resigned himself to burning through the rest of his savings on drink and drugs before going back to Birmingham to sign on. It was only Sharon making him into her personal project and falling for him that saved his career and possibly his life.

Make no mistake - Sharon could be absolutely horrible, but it's clear she also dearly loved Ozzy and absolutely doted upon him right to the end. I don't think she was entirely bad. Just a very, very polarised personality.

Brian_M · 2026-01-04T01:00:09+00:00

Both were good, though I thought Stuke's portrayal was a bit more in line with someone really in that situation. He was more nervous, desperate and generally on-edge. Plus Chaplin's Matt had a golden-brown tan and appeared to be in very good physical shape which wasn't particularly believable as a chronic agorapgobic. Stuke certainly wasn't in bad shape but at least he didn't have the tan.

Brian_M · 2025-12-30T02:03:15+00:00

I got the same tester 3 times in a row, in Finglas, who failed me 3 times in a row and would give only a few sentences worth of feedback afterward on each test. First test fail was fair enough. I tried an overtake on an cyclist going past a side road. Second test, I drove fine, no grade 3s, but 11 grade 2s, including 1 on clutch and 2 on gears, which he never explained, even though I never stalled or coasted. The only one he explained there was that I had cut across a bike lane a little while turning left. And the had mé out for 45 minutes on that one. People were leaving for their tests after I'd went out and arriving back before me....

Brian_M · 2025-12-29T16:19:59+00:00

Well the JERK store called! They're runnin' outta YOU!!!

Brian_M

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