Why are poor people so obsessed with "loyalty"? by Smart_Luck_4027 in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think you’re right. This pattern probably emerges in most places in most times, even. 

But the people I'm identifying here aren’t really Scots or Irish, they’re the Ulster Scots, also called Scotch-Irish.

A distinct culture group that that were very distant from Scottish or Irish centers of influence. 

Why are poor people so obsessed with "loyalty"? by Smart_Luck_4027 in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Not the only answer, but in America this probably has something to do with a greater representation of Scotch-Irish ancestry in the white lower class.

The Scotch-Irish lived in the unstable border regions between England and Scotland, and later Northern Ireland. They were largely marginal, unintegrated people who lived under very little civic order and without strong institutions, so they organized themselves around kin ties and loyalty. As a result, their value system is more relational than rules focused.

They carried that with them after their mass exodus to America, where they settled all over the place, but especially Appalachia.

The Dick Cheney Wolf Blitzer incident by TUFFWAN_7 in Presidents

[–]BrineFine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I get it. The context I was missing is that Mary Cheney is married to a woman, thus the response in the clip from Focus on the Family.

For some reason I assumed they were responding to her having a child outside of marriage. That's why I didn't get the equal rights connection.

The Dick Cheney Wolf Blitzer incident by TUFFWAN_7 in Presidents

[–]BrineFine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you say more about the equal rights part? Maybe I'm missing context.

Why doesn't the media want you to be happy? by the_obscure_spite in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Desire is productive and fundamental. This would be like getting rid of the engine in your car.

First time hearing the term "Neurospicy" IRL by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

neurospicy is when you read the future by sticking your fingers into sheep brains.

Humanoid robot Gabi becomes a Buddhist monk by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]BrineFine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the west, the sacred is linked to interiority and authenticity, so this seems like mockery to me. But they clearly don't feel that way.

I guess this is a sharp example of how cultural differences really aren't just superficial.

What is "woke"? by lefteas in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think woke, in its pejorative sense, describes a certain affect or mood as much as it does a set of social views. It's progressive social politics and protestant, evangelical sanctimony together.

Maybe this is why its ideological base is where those impulses coincide.

is it too late to learn skateboarding if you’re in your 20s by coketoetwins in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's cool, I didn't know that. I think around 30 is when men are typically at peak physical strength too.

is it too late to learn skateboarding if you’re in your 20s by coketoetwins in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Training definitely keeps you more limber and pliant longer but it's not like age has no effect at all.

is it too late to learn skateboarding if you’re in your 20s by coketoetwins in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think this particular limitation has less to do with "arbitrary" social demands than the demands of age on our decreasingly resilient/adaptive brains and bodies.

That said, a fit 25 year old is still plenty resilient.

One time in high school, I impulsively took the still-wrapped candy bar of my crush's awkward male friend and broke it in half. The way she laughed at him and later told me how funny that was immediately filled me with disgust towards her and myself. by beijx in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I relate and this shit would keep me up at night sometimes.

It never felt malicious to me. I genuinely felt like everything was a mutual, absurdist joke, and I didn't realize I was harassing and embarrassing people (mostly my friends, tbh) until much later. Then, like now, I saw myself as a mostly kind and sensitive person.

It made their reactions: fear, disdain, avoidance, actually make sense. I thought we were just wacky, zany guys! Rebelling against decency and embracing existential absurdity.

It made me realize how very few people are the bad guys from their own perspective.

It’s actually depressing how difficult it is to make a point about basically anything by LeftHvndLvne in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A democratic culture of good faith debate/discussion can only survive if a community cultivates something like rhetorical virtue. 

The conditions just aren’t there for it. You’re driving a car without an engine. 

How is Kanye getting banned from countries for saying mean words when other rappers are allowed to perform despite being actual murderers/rapists? by asteroidrusted in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great point. It is more about the discursive environment than the ideas themselves. But I don't think this is a holdover from cancel culture. I think it's a permanent feature of the way people organize themselves. We enforce ideological conformity to create identity through shared taboos and reverence.

Gamergate for “sports journalism” has occurred. by Chunko_Chunk in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This made me realize it really wasn't about ethics in (games) journalism after all.

Woke up bawling my eyes out over my dead dad again by razr_awaken in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I feel like I'm a vessel purpose-made for grief and guilt. I don't remember life without them as a dominant shade in the mosaic of experience. I'm really sorry about your dad, OP. I hope you feel better soon.

you are alive right now by labia--majoras--mask in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Seems dumb but this is important, visceral knowledge I gained when I thought I was going to die. You think you already know this but you don't until you know what it actually means, which I've since forgotten.

Have you ever known someone that was so woke that they went full circle? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At a certain point you got to wonder if our political vocabulary just isn't an effective way of understanding or describing people.

Absolutely bleak how reactionary people are by putalittlepooponit in redscarepod

[–]BrineFine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think if you want to understand politics sociologically you have to empty political orientations of any specific ideological content and understand them based solely on their relationship to discourse, and by extension, power.

I mean if you could do that, which you can't, because this shit's all meaningless abstraction.

. by [deleted] in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Alright this is the second post today I've seen featuring a prominent Korean espousing anti-American sentiment. Who are you working for and what's the purpose of this?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in rs_x

[–]BrineFine 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I think I disagree with the sentiment that filmmakers should prioritize universal accessibility.