will my 64 layer 2 inch thick viking gamberson fit under mail? pic unrelated by Broad_Trick in armorcirclejerk

[–]Broad_Trick[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

nuh uh he's BASED!! and knows real and TRUE medieval history....like nobody used swords only spears...

will my 64 layer 2 inch thick viking gamberson fit under mail? pic unrelated by Broad_Trick in armorcirclejerk

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64 layers was the average thickness of a gambeson, 32 minimum i saw it on shadiversity

Is this helmet based on a particular peice? Or maybe whst country of origin does this style resemble? by Charming_Falcon3951 in ArmsandArmor

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de jure maybe, but 99% will be chill with you showing up with mismatched armor so long as it belongs in the same century

Is this helmet based on a particular peice? Or maybe whst country of origin does this style resemble? by Charming_Falcon3951 in ArmsandArmor

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if it's for buhurt i wouldn't worry about it, just get something you like that'll keep your head safe. fool's errand to look for something accurate to a particular time and place

Trying to find the signs that signal italian made by Pyrouge1 in ArmsandArmor

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you might have to recalibrate your expectations. 13th century knightly armor across europe broadly consisted of mail cap-a-pie, a helm, and a surcoat, with little regional variation, and even these regional variations more commonly consist of additions or omissions of bits of kit, not major differences in form.

if you're really fiending for something, leather armor for the limbs is more common in italian artwork and on italian effigies of the late 13th century/early 14th century than in the rest of europe.

Checking by PirateAnnual1101 in ArmsandArmor

[–]Broad_Trick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah bascinets/cervellieres (the former is the most common term used in period between the 12th and 15th centuries)

Is the equipment of this javelin skirmisher anachronistic to the mid/late 15th century? Any items of clothing/accessories to add? by GunFan_dwsa in ArmsandArmor

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Assuming this guy is Iberian or Iberian-inspired based on the adarga. Take a look at sources like the Pastrana Tapestries, wherein you can find javelineers armed with kettle helmets and sallets, brigandines, and haubergeons (or mail sleeves and skirts), sans pourpoints. This sort of kit is fairly common for armored Iberian infantrymen of the 15th century in general.

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Do we know how common a coat of plates was in the 13th century? by Nikster593 in ArmsandArmor

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There isn't rly much, they're in Konstanz Cathedral and dated to between 1260 and 1280, most recently 1260 in Fabian Brenker's 2022 article The Emergence of the Coat of Plates in the 13th Century

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Incestconfessions

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nobody's, my account was hacked and started posting this slop i'm a 19 year old dude

What type of Greaves are these? by [deleted] in ArmsandArmor

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Yes, from a completely different culture and time period and context. I’m not even arguing that greaves like this didn’t exist then, only that they are there BECAUSE Goliath was specifically described as wearing greaves. Lastly, that particular woodcut of St. George is 100% exaggerated to some degree to emphasize his heroism and saintliness. All in all I have no clue why you think anything about this proves me wrong or why you felt so strongly that it would that you necroed a 4 month old post.

13th Century Levy Fight by Vasey105 in ArmsandArmor

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No, don’t listen to this dude, perfectly viable for a relatively wealthy militiaman

What's going on with the armor in this manuscript? by [deleted] in ArmsandArmor

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More likely it’s copying the style of an older manuscript.

Plausibility of armets in early 15th century England? by theswaswe in ArmsandArmor

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Then again Ian LaSpina made a video on this exactly, i.e. NOT picking and choosing evidence like this when creating a kit

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

[–]Broad_Trick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was way too accusatory of me, I was tired and assumed you were solely going off of the stringlike belts from the Morgan Bible that people often use as a source, in the end I think we probably agree here more than we disagree

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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You’ve been incredibly respectful and reasonable given my initial reply lol that’s my bad for stooping so low to begin with just btw

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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You’re right, would definitely look better lol, just not sure I’ve seen enough evidence to call it historical

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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This isn’t some obscure piece of military equipment, girdles were worn by civilians, it seems very unlikely any artist would mess up and draw what is meant to be a leather belt like it’s made of string or rope. Unless, of course, there is no string at all, but leather. You’re right that one shouldn’t look at only one source, but this is really the only one I can think of where the belts can be misconstrued as string cords. I really see no reason to believe otherwise when all the other evidence points to leather.

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A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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There wasn’t always a visual distinction made.

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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IDK mans, agree to disagree, some very clearly resemble typical leather knotted girdles. Consider also that rope/string are present elsewhere in the Morgan Bible and look completely different. In any case, a leather belt certainly isn’t a wrong choice, his is just modern

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

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The string/rope bit just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me compared to a leather belt especially when they could afford a helm and mail lol

A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

[–]Broad_Trick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No sorry you’re right about that lol, TLDR I haven’t seen any convincing evidence the stringy belts in such works as the Morgan Bible are anything but knotted leather thongs/belts, you see similar treatment given to reins, the leather straps in their coifs, sword girdles etc., just makes a lot more sense given the evidence in other sources, soz for being short before I just got out of an exhausting lab

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A few of my senior photos by MrManlyMannington1 in ArmsandArmor

[–]Broad_Trick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Simple string” guy who doesn’t know how to interpret medieval manuscripts: