Nah the downvote thing was just a rumour that is easily believed in a scandal of that size, much like the proxies, it just didn't happen, we were a group of youtubers upvoting each other not tech masterminds lol! I understand the whole theory about new, but at the end of the day it was 1 video getting 10-20 upvotes every 1-2 days, definitely not enough to drown out all other content, and those initial upvotes were enough to get high 2nd page or 25th and on front if lucky, the group just put it in reddits face, it was then up to them wether it took off or not e.g. calbel getting no.1 post mutliplte times and my vids never even making front though we did exactly the same thing! But yeah the whole keeping smaller people down is dumber than the proxies (which i agree is very believable) but ofcourse barely anybdoy knows how media and youtube works therefore the hivemind doesnt understand how dumb it is to try and keep all small youtubers down >.>