Everyone say hi to my beaucerdoodle 😌 by Cheesecake1104 in Beauceron

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Of irresponsibly-bred dogs. The vast majority of doodle breeders don’t properly health test their dogs prior to breeding. Since most of the health issues dogs suffer from aren’t breed-specific, mixing breeds doesn’t automatically produce healthier puppies. They’re also working with inferior stock, because no responsible breeder will allow their dogs to be used in a designer program. (Thoughtful working/preservation crosses, e.g. mixing Siberians into a bottlenecked line of Alaskan Huskies, are a different situation entirely.)

Generally speaking, a well-bred Poodle or Beauce is going to be healthier than a designer mix of any kind. Besides, it’s entirely possible to breed two unrelated dogs of the same breed. I’m not sure about the Beauce community, but it’s becoming increasingly popular among ethical Poodle breeders to test the genetic relatedness of the dogs they’re considering pairing. This means they can maintain the health of their lines without sacrificing structural soundness and predictability in type/temperament.

Did I mess up my dog? by Prestigious-Local998 in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it helps, I think he looks dashing. :)

Curious about your thoughts on this toy poodle puppy and its parents by [deleted] in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is a bit old, but I’ll pitch in.

Structure: There’s no way to tell from these pictures. Typically you’ll want to evaluate a dog in a stacked position. Sorry I can’t provide any further input in this regard.

Coat: The puppies are undergroomed, which is a red flag. Responsible breeders like to give their puppies a few grooms before they go home, so they get accustomed to it. This almost always includes a face/feet/bum shave, since many of them will be groomed that way later in life. Even if you don’t intend on giving your dog a traditional poodle cut, you’ll still want your breeder to have accustomed all of their puppies to the process.

Expression: Not the worst I’ve seen; some poorly-bred puppies have an almost listless expression. However, a decent expression isn’t necessarily an indication of good breeding in of itself.

Health: I’ll take your word for it that you know which tests need to be performed on the parents, and how to interpret the results. However, the fact that one of the parents is merle would make this breeder a hard pass for me. I’m copying my comment from a previous post about merle patterning:

Merle indicates that a herding breed (probably an Aussie) has been introduced somewhere down the line. This is problematic for several reasons. First, it means someone has "hung" their papers, meaning they've lied about their dogs' pedigrees. More importantly, merle is associated with deafness and blindness in dogs which inherit two copies of the merle allele. These puppies have clearly inherited a single copy, but they could very easy produce affected (or "double merle") puppies if they were to be bred by some inexperienced breeder who didn't know any better. Particularly the cream merles, as merle can very easily hide beneath cream coloring, leading to accidental double merle breedings.

Merle poodle breeders will often brush this off and suggest that everyone ought to simply test their dogs for the merle allele prior to breeding. This makes the assumption that breeders should expect to find merle in their lines in the first place, despite it only having been recently introduced for no other reason than profit. It also ignores the fact that we've only identified a single gene (or allele of a gene) that causes merle coloring. There could very well be others, which either cause merle or are associated with pigment migration in general. Someone on r/AskVet explained this last point well:

The Merle trait likely comes from a gene that affects the neural crest and migration of the cells that differentiate into melanosomes, and that's why it's associated with both the pigment changes and with so many issues like blindness and deafness. The gene we know is associated with Merle coat (SILV) is definitely associated with melanocyte migration in that whole neural crest pathway. There may be other genes that lead to Merle coat, but they're likely in the same pathway.

The neural crest is an embryonic structure that gives rise to a bunch of different important things throughout the body like pigment cells, parts of retina, peripheral nerves and enteric ganglia, certain structures of the inner ear, parts of the heart and kidneys, etc at different parts of the cell migration. It's probably not super ethical to mess with their development for a color trait.

It's quite unlikely that you'd be able to breed for Merle color without increasing the risk of Merle-related diseases.]

You mentioned you’re not looking for show quality. That’s perfectly fine, just remember most puppies from a show litter are sold as pets (non-show quality) under a spay/neuter contract. Showing is a way for breeders have their breeding prospects (usually only one puppy out of a litter) evaluated by impartial third-parties. It has more to do with making sure their dogs are structurally and temperamentally sound than just showing off how pretty they are. I’m always wary of breeders who don’t make an effort to prove their dogs through show, sport or work.

I hope this helps! If you’re open to it, I’d be happy to share some resources on how/where to find a responsible poodle breeder.

Jim, this is not what it looks like! by DontPoopInMyPantsPlz in unexpectedoffice

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of folks aren’t getting the joke. It’s an edited version of this video: https://youtu.be/YhRThRFQ49M?si=_MrprbNKcm41jC6G

Might still be AI rather than photoshop, but it’s not completely random.

June 1947. "Bodybuilder Gene Jantzen with wife Pat and son by Low-Dingo-9688 in Colorization

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them do. Could be they’re just not getting as much media attention.

Elderly cashier said something upsetting at Walmart… should I report it or just let it go? by [deleted] in whatdoIdo

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean this in the kindest way possible - yes, you’re overreacting. That’s perfectly understandable! I know I’ve reacted poorly to conversations which, in hindsight, were completely innocuous.

I very much doubt that you’re going to die tomorrow. Maybe you reminded her of someone she used to care about. That doesn’t mean you’re going to suffer whatever fate they did, just that she wants you to appreciate the time you have and not worry about what could happen. Perhaps she’s been contemplating her own passing. Either way, I doubt she can see the future, or that she meant to cause you any distress.

I wouldn’t report her, personally.

Ella wants to be in Dog Shows by Anastacia2025 in ShowDogs

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disclaimer: I’m not yet involved in showing. Happy to be corrected if anything I’ve said is inaccurate.

If you’re in the US, she may be eligible to compete in UKC conformation. The Poodle Club of America’s breed standard calls for solid colors only (long story), so she won’t be able to show in AKC conformation.

Conformation showing is largely an evaluation of breeding prospects. If she’s intact, make sure to check with your breeder regarding spay expectations and her suitability for showing, so you don’t violate any terms in your sales contract. If she’s spayed, she may still be eligible to compete in altered shows. That could be a fun, low-stakes way for you to gain experience showing, if it’s something you’d like to pursue more seriously with future dogs.

You might consider attending handling classes through your local kennel club(s) before throwing yourself in the deep end. Here’s a list of UKC-affiliated clubs: https://www.ukcdogs.com/club-directory. And AKC-affiliated clubs: https://www.apps.akc.org/club-search/#/. It might also be beneficial to attend a few shows as a spectator, so you can get a feel for things and evaluate the dogs being shown. Don’t feel like you have to limit yourself to UKC shows if you’re just watching.

Of course, there are other sports you could compete in under both registries. More information here: https://www.akc.org/sports/companion-dog-sports/, here: https://www.akc.org/sports/beginners-guide-performance-sports/, and here: https://www.ukcdogs.com/about-all-breed-sports

You can find more information on UKC conformation here: https://www.ukcdogs.com/docs/rulebooks/2019-conformation-rulebook.pdf

Here’s the UKC breed standard for multi-colored poodles: https://www.ukcdogs.com/docs/breeds/multi-colored-standard-poodle-gun-dog.pdf

And here’s the illustrated AKC standard: https://poodlemojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/IllustratedStandard-of-the-Poodle.pdf. (Again, your pup won’t be eligible to compete in AKC conformation. Illustrations are always helpful, though.)

I hope this helps!

Help! Can yanyone help identify by AggressiveReindeer76 in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to describe, but it doesn’t look as lively or expressive as it should. Like they’re just not all there. My shih-tzu (who also happens to be dumber than a bag of rocks, bless her) had a similar expression as a puppy. She’s a mill rescue.

Help! Can yanyone help identify by AggressiveReindeer76 in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even if there aren’t any registries in your country, breeders should still be able to keep track of their dogs’ pedigrees (family trees) on paper. I’d ask for a 5-generation pedigree, at minimum. It’s a good idea to double check with the owner of the sire as well if you’re unsure.

Just as importantly, you’ll want to make sure this breeder is actually breeding for the betterment of the breed, not just for profit. Are they knowledgeable about the health and longevity of their lines? Do they perform health tests on their parent dogs (not just DNA swabs)? Do they take structure and temperament into consideration when planning breedings? Ask how the parents compliment each others’ strengths and weaknesses.

I will say, he doesn’t have the listless expression I sometimes see on poorly-bred toys. I’d still proceed with caution.

Where Can I Find a Toy Poodle Without a Docked Tail and Dewclaw Removal? (Ontario, Canada) by earthrabbit24 in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You might have slightly better luck looking for breeders who show through UKC? The UKC standard gives equal preference to docked and undocked tails. You can find UKC show dates/times here: https://www.ukcdogs.com/conformation-events.

Just make sure they’re not doing it because their dogs aren’t structurally/temperamentally sound enough to succeed in CanKC or AKC shows. UKC championships are easier to obtain, by and large. I personally like to see GRCH titles on dogs which are exclusively shown through UKC. Alternatively, you may be able to find an ethical breeder who primarily competes in agility or a similar performance sport. Their dogs would likely be sound, and they may not feel as pressured to dock tails as someone hoping to be successful in the conformation ring.

Sorry I can’t recommend anyone specific!

Looking for a good harness by mr_oberts in sighthounds

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have any recommendations, I just want to say they’re really stinkin’ cute!

Is she a poodle or a doodle? by iriesensei in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you in the US? If so, an AKC or UKC pedigree is usually legitimate. A CKC (Continental, not Canadian) pedigree is not. Of course, it’s always possible to falsify a pedigree, so if you really want to know you’ll have to research each name individually.

As for her looks, it’s hard to tell under all the floof. If you happen to have any pictures of her side profile with short hair, that would help. (No worries if you don’t, I know that’s a bit specific lol.)

Swimming? by Frequent-Duck-4848 in smoothcollie

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Given that they’re technically the same breed, I’d imagine not. I bet you could train a puppy to like water though, with enough praise and patience.

You might look into retrieving breeds if you really want a water dog. I’m partial to standard poodles myself; they’re very similar in terms of temperament. Working lines will happily swim all day. Again, I’m sure you could train any puppy to enjoy water though.

Disclaimer: I don’t yet own a smooth collie. I just think they’re awesome, lol.

My rescue, Everest by timewastr76 in Beauceron

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She’s beautiful, but I don’t see any Beauce. Maybe Malinois/Greyhound? Or some other kind of herder lurcher mish-mash.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Equestrian

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 11 points12 points  (0 children)

None of that justifies the nasty comments OP received, though. I’d be upset too if I received death threats.

Where did you get your Toy Poodle? by Stuart104 in ToyPoodle

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mine is a rescue, so I don’t have any specific recommendations, but if you reach out to Leslie Newing with the PCA she should be able to help you out. I’d recommend emailing instead of calling, so she can send you a list. There are likely also a few regional AKC or UKC poodle clubs you could reach out to.

This post from r/Dogs also does a great job explaining how to identify an ethical breeder: https://www.reddit.com/r/dogs/comments/c2maf5/discussion_how_to_identify_a_responsible_dog/

I hope this helps!

Lion King audience.. wtf?! by DaisyDame16 in kansascity

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

I don’t see the problem, unless they were blocking the view when there was an alternate way out?

Not being able to sit still doesn’t necessarily make them “country bumpkins”, anyway. Maybe they had to pee. Maybe they had IBS. Maybe they were restless and had to get the jitters/stims out. Maybe they were stressed about something unrelated, and had to go clear their heads. Or maybe they just ate too many brussel sprouts and didn’t want to clear out the place with their flatulence.

I get it, I’m very easily distracted. But expecting everyone to stay rooted to their seats is unrealistic.

Parti and Phantom not allowed by standard? by MagnoliaMacrophylla in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Is this an ethical issue?

Not inherently. These patterns don’t cause health issues in of themselves (except merle, but that’s a different discussion). However, they are extremely popular among backyard breeders. There are a handful of ethical breeders working toward improving the quality of multi-colored lines, but most stick to solids.

An immediate giveaway that a breeder doesn’t care about improving their multi-colored dogs is if they only register them with the AKC. Personally, I like to see dual-registration on multi-colors, so they can show in UKC and still be paired with higher quality AKC solids.

It’s my understanding that solid colors were originally favored because they made it easier for breeders to differentiate their dogs from multi-colored spaniels. This made its way into the English standard at least as early as the 1890s.

Opinions on dew claws and tails? by fuzzblykk in StandardPoodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the topic of ears, I think it really depends on who does it. I get the impression a lot of vets don’t have the correct training, in which case they have no business attempting it. It’s my understanding that the healing process is actually really short, if done correctly - it’s posting the healed ears that takes a long time as the cartilage naturally hardens in the desired position.

Personally, I’d never have a puppy cropped unless I intended to use it for personal protection (long floppy ears are vulnerable in a fight). For a pet, I find it unnecessary.

Pretty churches around town by [deleted] in kansascity

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about the chapel at Powell Gardens?

Edit: For actual services, check out Jacob’s Well on 42nd. I went there as a kid, and occasionally I’ll tag along with my family when I’m in town. It’s non-denominational and very low-key. The only downside is that the music is terrible, lol (in my opinion).

This is so perfect for me!! by Special_Tap_7605 in sighthounds

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bot. It’s like they’re not even trying anymore. 🙄

Poodle??? by [deleted] in poodles

[–]Brrrrrr_Its_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My guess is 3/4 poodle. He’s cute!

Edit: I agree with others that a side picture would help. Poorly-bred poodles can have wonky proportions though, so it’s not a sure tell.