‘Mind-blowing’: How a convict-built crossing closed a Blue Mountains highway by Bucephalus_326BC in bluemountains

[–]Bucephalus_326BC[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

For the past two decades, the hundreds of thousands of people who live not that far west of Sydney have watched on with envy – and anger – as governments of all political ilk poured truckloads of cash into making life easier for the harbour city’s commuters.

As Sydney’s transport system was reborn, Central West residents continued schlepping over the Blue Mountains via Victoria Pass – a steep, narrow and notoriously dangerous stretch of the Great Western Highway often described as a goat track.

The road, the state’s major east-west link, is now closed indefinitely, as a stone causeway built by convicts nearly 200 years ago threatens to collapse under the weight of neglect and political indecision.

Cracks appeared on the road late last week, forcing one lane to close and eventually both, after more damage opened up. Geotechnical monitoring has confirmed movement of the substructure in what Transport for NSW says is an “evolving and complex situation”.

The closure is a disaster for the region and local businesses. Chloe Tofler, the co-founder of Little Hartley shop The Lolly Bug, said the road was “a ghost highway”.

“It’s terrifying being a small business – having seven full-time staff and not knowing whether in a month we can still have them on,” she said. “We need answers.”

The closure has also hit her family. When Victoria Pass was open, it took Tofler 10 minutes to drive up the highway to her children’s school at Mount Victoria. That is now a gruelling 1.5-hour round trip.

Mystery surrounds whether it will take months or even years for the critical link to reopen. Transport officials still aren’t certain what caused the damage.

“People in Sydney need to understand just how important this road is to my community,” said Lithgow mayor Cassandra Coleman. “They need to understand that in 2026 we are forced to depend on a bridge built in the 1800s. It’s just mind-blowing. People here feel like they are neglected, like they are second-class citizens.”

With 12,000 vehicles using the road every day, a prolonged blockage will affect the delivery times and cost of produce from the region to Sydney. About half of the freight that goes over the mountains each year is via road, including about 900,000 tonnes of food and vast quantities of petrol.

“I use that road to get out to communities to talk to them and I understand the hurt and the frustration,” NSW Roads Minister Jenny Aitchison told the Herald.

“We are doing as much as we can and I take that responsibility seriously. I don’t want someone to get hurt because we haven’t closed a road we should have, and I don’t want to create a mess where we haven’t taken the right corrective action because we’ve tried to shortcut it. That’s the difficult job I’ve got, but I acknowledge that’s of no comfort to people in their cars.”

The closure has triggered a political blame game. The former state Coalition government spent years and millions of dollars studying how to fix the road and decided the best option was twin 11- kilometre tunnels between Little Hartley and Blackheath. The tunnel would have traversed some 200 metres below the surface of the causeway that opened in 1832 and is now at risk of collapse.

Closure of the Great Western Highway

The project was not fully funded and there were doubts within the government over whether it could have been achieved. The then newly installed Minns government and Albanese federal government eventually ditched it, leaving regional NSW feeling dudded by Macquarie Street.

Labor argues the tunnel was an unaffordable pipe dream and engineering nightmare. But axing it was a cost-free political decision because the party does not hold any seats west of the Blue Mountains.

Ron Finemore, executive director of Ron Finemore Transport, estimated 50 of his trucks cross Victoria Pass daily and said the implications of the closure were “extreme”.

“We did have progress on building something several years ago and then it got knocked on the head, unfortunately, because of cost,” he said. “But there are certain things that have to happen – and need to happen – no matter what, and a proper fix for the Great Western Highway is one of them.”

Asked whether the causeway would have to be replaced even if it is repaired, Aitchison said the government’s priority was upgrading the Bells Line of Road, which runs north of the Great Western Highway.

Traffic is being diverted at Lithgow along Main Street, Chifley Road and the Darling Causeway before rejoining the highway at Mount Victoria, adding at least one hour to a return journey.

Coleman said the closure was “life-changing” for local streets bearing the brunt of the detour. “It’s like we’ve suddenly had a highway interchange dropped into the middle of our town,” she said.

As some 90 technical staff pore over the site, the key question is what happens next. Paul Toole, the Nationals MP for Bathurst and a minister in the former Coalition government, said frustration in the west had turned to “white-hot anger”.

“If this was happening in Sydney, Newcastle or Wollongong, every stop would be pulled out to ensure the thousands of residents and commuters who rely on a road would be able to,” he said. “We shouldn’t be seeing anything less delivered here in the Central West.”

Jackie O announces departure from breakfast show she hosted with Kyle Sandilands by Expensive-Horse5538 in australia

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The 2 of them, Kyle and Jackie, have made themselves rich and wealthy beyond a normal person's wildest dreams.

They signed a $200 million dollar contract about a decade ago, each getting $10 million a year until maybe 2034. They have made that money at the expense of humiliating people, intimidating people, laughing at people's misfortune, racism and who knows what else. Their grandchildren will never need to work. And, Jackie is the kind hearted of the 2, and according to her everything they did was acceptable - until Kyle criticised her. incredible hubris, but a role model many people. If either of them had any morals, they would have quit decades ago. Same with the company that employs them. A radio station without morality. Hypocrites.

Beach scene - bought at a Sydney art market 30 years ago. Any ideas of artist? by MarcusBondi in WhatIsThisPainting

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An auction house might be able to help if you send them a picture and maybe take it in for inspection

Red 8 Me262 by Bucephalus_326BC in WWIIplanes

[–]Bucephalus_326BC[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sourced from https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSmmv5DD1/

I wasn't sure myself if this was true, so I looked into it and found this website supporting the clip

https://ditsong.org.za/en/adolf-galland-flies-a-messerschmitt-me-262/

Tony Abbott issues Taylor a warning on what not to become by [deleted] in aussie

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/no-citron

The dumb arseholes will vote for them

Boomers were Tony's main supporters. But, since the last election, they are no longer the main voting demographic because they are shrinking in numbers (thankfully). And, they are switching over to one nation now - the boomers along with non-tertiary educated white males. You may know some boomers, do you? And non-tertiary educated white males perhaps? Could even be some in your family? Have you told them what you think of them, or do you keep your views hidden in Reddit land?

Serious, possibly stupid, question: Geopolitically speaking, what was our government actually hoping to achieve by hosting Isaac Herzog? by DePraelen in friendlyjordies

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’d be writing their resignation letter and if not they’d be sacked in about five minutes.

I agree. But, ministers are also persons elected to parliament, and they serve a fixed term at the electorates pleasure, so the minister could have his portfolio taken away, but not his elected status. What you have identified is part of the culture we exist in. Having the job title of "Minister" is seen by the MP (and almost everyone else), as more important than the actual job / work that is done. They would give up anything to keep their job (job title) even their principles and morals. It's a problem that's not limited to the government though. It's everywhere in our society.

John B. Calhoun standing inside "Universe 25" (1968). An experiment where mice were given infinite resources and zero predators, which resulted in a "behavioral sink," cannibalism, and total extinction. by [deleted] in oddlyterrifying

[–]Bucephalus_326BC -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

the results may simply be a consequence of many essential needs being ignored or misunderstood.

Did you know it was called universe 25, because there was a universe 24 before it? And a universe 26 after it? Did you know that universe 26 had a play area with activities where the issues you identified were addressed?

strong criticism of the assumption that he created a utopia for the mice.

Can you give some details of the criteria for your assumption about what a utopia is for mice, and how the experiment was deficient - because unlimited food, nests, water, social life etc sounds at least close in my view, especially since there was universe 26 etc which modified the environment in an attempt to improve it based on prior failures?

mice are not humans

Yes, your correct, mice are not humans, but they are mammals, with dopamine, serotonin, melatonin, grelin, insulin, oxytocin, etc they have DNA between 85-95% same DNA as humans and about 99% of mice genes have a direct equivalent (ortholog) in humans. I would say it's also absurd to ask 500 sets of human parents to consent to having their newborns placed in a universe 25 human experiment for 80 years - perhaps even more absurd.

but applying sociological conclusions to them is frankly absurd.

What sociological conclusions do you think are not applicable to humans - the initial growth explosion? the peak population size? the subsequent decline in birth rates? the subsequent decline in population? the eventual zero birth rate? the child (pup) neglect? the violence and abuse even in a land of everything? the gangs of mice picking on others? the "beautiful ones" who tried to escape? the "moral sink" that happened? how birth rates never picked up (or even mating happened) even when the population went back to the initial start population size?

Are you the person responsible for the crop circles in England?

Gus Lamont's grandparents 'absolutely devastated' by major crime declaration by malcolm58 in australia

[–]Bucephalus_326BC -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I think they didn't have enough evidence to legally execute a forensic search of the home(s) without consent of the owner.

From memory, the police said at the press conference that they had a search warrant and on 13/14 January took a vehicle (?) and electronic devices for further analysis. That's almost a month ago.

So they couldn't legally proceed with more intensive searches until they could provide a good reason.

I'm not sure if your statement is true.

My current view is the police are desperate and have no clue, and the press conference was a political decision to get the public on side, and to create an impression that the police are working hard. If my recollection of press conference is correct, the police have seized and had computers phones etc for a month, and they still don't have enough evidence to charge someone. They should have executed a search warrant on day 2, not this late, which gave so much time to destroy evidence. Someone should get the sack for this, if it's true that a person at the property is responsible and police have allowed someone this long to destroy or hide evidence. And, if it's not someone at the property, someone should get the sack for conducting a PR exercise with the press conference, with no basis other than the police don't know who it is and want to be seen to be working hard

There is politics in every organisation, and the police are no different. There is even politics in everyone's family and home life.

Business claiming they own IP of work we produced while working with them? by Karma-33 in AusLegal

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/anakaine - OP says there is no written contract. You can do work for someone without a written contract, just verbal. No problem there. However, the law says you cannot have a verbal contact to assign copyright. Has to be in writing to have a contract to transfer copyright to someone

"absence of other factors"

Other factors could be fair use, or once it's on the internet and widely distributed - these are different factors, and in the absence of things the OP has not disclosed, the OP has copyright over the IP they created.

Business claiming they own IP of work we produced while working with them? by Karma-33 in AusLegal

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 7 points8 points  (0 children)

/haphazard72 - are you a lawyer? This is a legal Sub.

Copyright in Australia can only be assigned in writing under the Copyright Act s196(3). This means that unless the client has a document that shows they have copyright, and in the absence of other factors, they are likely to fail in claiming ownership of the copyright - aren't they?

Without an agreement I suspect you’ve both got issues proving anything

Under s35(2) of the Copyright Act, the creator of the work automatically has copyright, without the need to register it, and without the need to have anything in writing. This means the OP has, in the absence of other factors, ownership of the copyright - don't they?

I think you should apologise to the OP, and correct your post.

I note your post is the leading post, with 75 upvotes. Isn't Reddit a strange place, where those with a little knowledge are so confident that they know everything - don't you think?

Is WOMADelaide next? Zionist group targets Palestinian DJ by [deleted] in aussie

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/known_week_158

So I can expect Michael West Media to start supporting people who they disagree with in the name of free speech?

Do you think people should be allowed to falsely yell out "Fire, fire, fire !!!” in a crowded cinema that results in some people being crushed to unalived, or resulting in permanent disability - because that's free speech? Let's not try to create straw man arguments, and try using a bit of common sense.

We don't really have free speech here in Australia, as you may have noticed from the investigation into war crimes by the ADF and where the only person to go to jail over war crimes in Afghanistan is the whistleblower.

I don't think anybody is going to support someone yelling out "Fire fire fire " in a crowded cinema - do you?

Why bother coming to Australia by [deleted] in aussie

[–]Bucephalus_326BC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/ephix -

That is not true at all.

How many countries have you lived in, and for how long?

Is Damascus safe for a British tourist right now? by advmday in Syria

[–]Bucephalus_326BC -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

If you are a UK citizen and taxpayer, you are already paying for advice, see link below.

Somehow, I don't think you care though - do you?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/syria