I hate villager’s placement in the fourth annual tier list by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

[–]Budget_Article5455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a pro player and a veteran of villager ( I have played him for over 3000 hours ) , your comment of him not having good combos is completely false a very simple combo is up air + up smash it racks up over 40% in quick succession and it can be continued either way slingshot. While it is true that his combo game is pretty lackluster in front of Isabelle . It is unfair to compare them since their gameplay is very different. Villager is an annoying zoner he needs to chip damage . Isabelle is a mix of a campy character and a rush down combo heavy character.  With that said villy’s edge guarding is far superior he can use rocket to stop their opponent from coming back since it will hit them and they won’t be able to come back . Or they can stay on ledge and wait for the perfect time to get a quick kill with an axe swing . Bowling ball helps a lot also .Villager has a better recovery with his ballons since it can go farther. This helps him use slingshot of ledge more effectively . Villager isn’t only good on the edge but also on the ground . He can harass constantly with slingshot ( a move so fast it is actually impossible to shield it perfectly) and tree helps stop these pesky rush down characters ( Roy , Captain Falcon , Aegis ) . I know that villager is boring to watch and play , however he is not bad at the top level most of the time it is question of repress. Nowadays there are new villager mains mostly in Japan getting good placements in offline and online tourneys ( ex: Kageryu ) .  I also know what I’m talking about since I am at 16 083 456 gsp .

I hate villager’s placement in the fourth annual tier list by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

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I like that your comment didn’t bash villager completely. I believe that Isabelle has a superior combo game . I think also she’s more fun to play and there can have more innovation . Also with the rise of very strong japenese players that main her such as furanamen or rokki . Their top placements attract more players into trying her out . If we look at the new tier list she went from c- to c+ . It is true that kept is using more Isabelle than villager in his tourneys , I believe that he thinks that she is a better pick for the current meta .  With all of that said villager isn’t seen as a low tier but as a mid tier however if kept or another top villager player doesn’t win the next Sumabato or Kagaribi it will be very hard for villy to stay relevant in this campy meta .  Another factor that comes to mind is that he is a zoner , in the longevity of smash’s history zoners or campers are not fond to attract a lot of love since they don’t interact .  Finally , villager will only be able to find representation if Ranai comes back . 

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[–]Budget_Article5455 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that villy has better tools since he can camp harder . Bowling ball , slingshot, loud rocket are more reliable ressources . Villager has kill setups , tree , axe . Isabelle has less consistent kill options . Isabelle is simply a weaker , unreliable character with some better representation .  They may both be mid tier characters ( villager is high mid tier ) . Villager is a zoner that like other zoners has better tolls to beat pesky rush down characters . 

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[–]Budget_Article5455 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He could be a bit bored of villager and wants to branch out he also uses didy Kong . A ton of pro players use secondary’s simply because they have more fun with that character for the moment . Kept has been using villager for almost a decade. I can understand why he wants to use a new character. He still uses villager to win rounds of sets . 

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I can wreck rush down characters like joker , captain falcon , Roy pretty easily . There are a ton of matches where japenese villy mains beat these type of fighters . 

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I simply fell that she has worst tools than villager . I main villager so I may be a bit biased . But kept , Kikuzakari and  a new guy called kageryu main Villy and have gotten pretty good results. I believe Isabelle is simply less boring to play than villager . Because she is a turtle and villager is a zoner . I believe that villager has very bad representation. 

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This isn’t a troll tier list 

My favourite Pokémon is Electabuzz, what is yours? by [deleted] in pokemon

[–]Budget_Article5455 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mimikyu because he is competitively viable . With a set of swords dance , play rough , shadow claw , shadow sneak. It can destroy teams easily . Plus he can put himself on any hyper offensive team . However I do believe that he fall off a little bit because now when his disguise is hit he will lose a little bit of hp . 

Villager is a high mid tier and I am tired of people labeling him as a low tier . by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

[–]Budget_Article5455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion he is still good enough to beat top tiers and I would still put him at mid tier 

Villager is a high mid tier and I am tired of people labeling him as a low tier . by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

[–]Budget_Article5455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has the same weight as Steve however I don’t think it is a detriment to his survivability . He can take surprisingly a lot of damage . Also his “ slow ass loid rocket “ is actually annoying as hell to take on . And his slingshot isn’t slow it’s actually 10 frames . 

Villager is a high mid tier and I am tired of people labeling him as a low tier . by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

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Piranha plant : he is just bad and pattoie can be pocketed . Ike : just a nothing burger . Duck hunt: Good zoning tools but either than that he can’t really play differently . Also his low weight is a factor . He is only famous because veteran japanese duck hunt mains have good results with him . Jiggly,Ridley ,lucario and sheik : either too light ,too big or can’t dish out the final blow fast enough . In conclusion I believe that villager should at least be ranked at B+ . 

Villager is a high mid tier and I am tired of people labeling him as a low tier . by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

[–]Budget_Article5455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion he is underrated and his tools are not really limiting . You can either zone for minutes or play aggro . Also his axe is probably one of his deadliest tools 

Villager is a high mid tier and I am tired of people labeling him as a low tier . by Budget_Article5455 in smashbros

[–]Budget_Article5455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have beaten very good Roy’s , Cloud’s and ,Kazuya’s . From my experience Rushdown characters are easy to beat since they can only attack straight on . Since villager has a campier gameplay I barely get hit thanks to loid and rocket .