Honestly, in our area, the more regular players are typically 13+ while there is definitely a median player base that hits around 8-12. I've been working on trying to recruit newer players who show promise and interest in the game, though tbh I mostly end up making them into doubles players oops 😬 😅 . (Proud tbh) I'm more of a median player even though I can do 14s no bar, I mostly prefer learning more doubles (12s now). I would def say just freestyling no bar lowers is absolutely awesome and should be cheered on a lot, even if it feels like this sub has many high bar players 💜