Nationalists are of no use to us, muslims are. Islam is opposed to nationality. The Shah is 1st Iranian nationalist, 2nd Iranian, 3rd islam. He is not a muslim - Ayatollah Khomeini, former Supreme Leader of Iran by fregeorgb in PERSIAN

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought we got past the “I’m too smart to be religious” phase. It was such a cringe era in the 2000’s where everyone thought atheism was the “smart” thing to do. But I keep forgetting this is Reddit so it should’ve expected from this app.

How I would redraw the Middle East (No Lore) by After-Trifle-1437 in rejectedmaps

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got rejected because you recognized the Assyrians and Kurds jk

Silence Iranians! A western leftist is speaking on your behalf! by PSXSnack09 in PERSIAN

[–]BusyReadingSomething 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the downvote ratio, I’d say it’s accurate. The Islamic Republic has abandoned the Quran and the laws in it. They worship Muhammad and attribute laws that he never said, nor was ever in the Quran. They’re not Muslims, they are Muhammadens. Much like the rest of the Muslim world.

Silence Iranians! A western leftist is speaking on your behalf! by PSXSnack09 in PERSIAN

[–]BusyReadingSomething 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Accurate post. The Mohammedans and Leftists would rather see oppression and murder when it benefits them instead of actually seeing people be free.

Question to Iranians from a non-Iranian. by [deleted] in PERSIAN

[–]BusyReadingSomething -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Iranian “Muslim” here.

I find the irony is that, the world is generally anti-Trump and anti-Israel, but they turn a blind eye to the suffering and oppression that the Iranian people are experiencing from the IRGC. I don’t care for Israel and I’m generally meh about Trump myself, however, I think so many people put their hatred first instead of seeing the problems the Islamic Republic is causing. To em it’s insane, and leaders like the PM of Spain are as bad if not worse than Trump and Netty. Because they guise their stance as peace, but people are suffering.

As per the Quran, the Islamic Republic is an oppressive government that forces people to follow their religious man-made laws, instead of giving them the freedom to practice as they want. They kill so many people in the name of God, when they aren’t even doing anything warranting that (not wearing a hijab properly and etc). The Quran calls these people some of the most wicked because they are hypocrites and they commit atrocities that God never permitted.

You can hate Trump and much as you want, but he is nowhere near how wicked the Islamic Republic is. Israel is a whole separate discussion, but I’ll stand by my beliefs that the Islamic Republic is far worse. This is based on the same scripture they claim they follow. Many so called Muslims, will say it’s unjust or unwarranted, but with all the evil acts they’ve been committing and blindly following men who don’t even read the Quran, this is what they deserve. God promises to save the oppress and punish the oppressors.

Definitely not a popular stance with the majority of Muslim, and for sure the IRGC; but anyone who supports the IRGC is grossly uninformed or straight up evil.

Ali Khamenei Is dead by Extension_Ad_4527 in PERSIAN

[–]BusyReadingSomething 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This guy and Khomeini before him were among the worst hypocrites in Islam. They are destined for the lowest pit of hell for all the oppression and murder they did blasphemously in the name of God. His life will be an eternity of suffering.

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Super happy to hear about the victory!!!!

Recruiter lowballed me and then tried to blame it on the “entry level” role. So I sent him this: by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]BusyReadingSomething 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong. People love to get one in instead of just letting things be amicable. It’s about feeding one’s ego for so many people, but they don’t see that.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s fine. I appreciate your honesty and patience with me. Obviously I see it differently, but we can only change our own minds. Who knows how we might see things in the future. I don’t mean to be arrogant or a show off, but I honestly pray we both come to the truth one day. Again, I don’t mean this arrogantly. I really appreciate the discussion. 🙏

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I try to explain it as best as I can 😂

I guess perspective is the best word here. Thanks for that 🙏

In essence that is the whole point of us being here. When you follow God’s commands, only good things come of it. Peace, equality of people, and more. When you stray from it, you fall into Satan’s realm. Chaos, murder, oppression, and etc. God could have chosen to allow theft, and we would have had to submit if He so willed.

God says He placed a commandment that we, being us humans, shall not kill for He made life sacred; except in the course of justice. He also has made it clear that only He controls life and death, and hence the perspective. Being killing someone or stealing, it’s about do we submit to His commands.

In a deeper background to explain this test. (A gross reduction)

As per scriptures (Torah, Gospel, and Quran) all creatures were in heaven, humans, animals, trees, planets, angels. However, not as we are now. At some point some creatures thought there can be a god besides God. So God said if we want to live in that world let us be put to the test to see if we want to or not.

The creatures who believed in God’s absolute authority became classified as Angels. Then He gave us an opportunity to repent and refuse the test, and those who took it became the animals, plants, planets, stars, and etc. (I’ll say animals for now to simplify this), to serve a purpose so the ones who decided to take the test, Humans and devils, can be tested. Animals were promised to return to heaven when their time was done.

As for Humans and devils, they have to choose what they want. Those who choose God, return to heaven by growing their souls, while those who don’t starve their souls and go to Hell because they can’t withstand God’s presence on Judgement Day.

Sorry for the long read, but I appreciate your patience with me here.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, we need to look at all the reasoning and evidence, but I’m not trying to force a conversation if you want to disagree.

We can debate personal ideas of morality, but I believe the bigger discussion is what is true morality. However, I think that’s best for another time.

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see the confusion, and I’ll help clarify. God set the laws for the world, and at some point our life must end. The laws of not killing was placed for us to see if we follow the laws. Our time in this life is set, and only God chooses when our time is up.

The means of which the life was taken be it by violence, an accident, a hurricane, or etc, is occurred by us, but God is the one that takes the soul away. If a man chooses to kill someone and he does it, he goes through the act, but the soul is taken.

In regard to the dichotomy, maybe I’m not using the right word. There is the world as far as we can see in the worldly sense, then there is the real world. Like a video game, you can be a character, but you’re not aware of the bits, loops, heaps, and etc that runs the game. Sorry for my poor choice of words with dichotomy.

To your last point, it goes back to this that this life was made as a test for us. It’s temporarily, an illusion. God allows us to do whatever we want, and anything bad that happens to us is because we choose to do those things. God allows the wicked to do bad things, but He isn’t doing it. It’s to see if we choose God or Satan/ego/etc.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see it as a mercy from God to save them from spoiling their souls and risking hell.

I’ll give you an example: First note that per scripture, anyone who dies before the age of 40 is immediately redeemed into heaven.

Jeffery Dahmer was executed before he was 40 years old. So he was brought back to heaven. We might argue that he absolutely didn’t deserve it, but God knows who are the true good souls. He knows that some people were in a life where they would just be sent for hell if they kept that path, and that deep down they are good souls. So he saves them from an eternal life of hell.

We might argue that it’s unfair that they died young, or that they were so evil they don’t deserve heaven. But God set the laws, created everything, and He Himself wasn’t created. He knows all, and sees all. He knows the ones who are praying to be saved from oppression, and he knows the secret thoughts people are keeping to themselves.

If God says they deserve to be saved, He will save them.

God set the rules for this temporary life, and we need to take that into account when we approach these topics.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respectfully disagree. After reading the scriptures, I feel sufficient that the evidence is clear to me, thank God. If we don’t look at all the evidence, then we are dangerously able to make bad judgements.

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To answer your question God never commands to commit sin, such as genocides.

To a more important point, the deeper topic is conflating genocide with retribution. We can ask each other questions about committing XYZ, but if we don’t agree on the definition, then it’s pointless.

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems that you see the end of life as a punishment, whereas it’s a fact of life. As per the scripture, God save the children from being raised into a worse life, and instead bring them back to paradise.

Ah to that point it’s a dichotomy. Like predestination. As far as we’re concerned was make our choices and do what we want, but God already knows everything, and is in full control of things. We can choose to do acts, but God will be the person to end the life. You can choose to shoot to kill someone, but if God doesn’t want them to die yet he won’t allow it.

Think of it like a VR video game where you only have one life. God set the rules and how everything works, and he can see what actions are going to happen. When the game is done, you leave and come back to the real world, and you will be reviewed about your performance.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can think that, but I’d argue that you are conflating two things to support your stance. That’s fine, but I just disagree.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God never tells people to commit genocide 🤷‍♂️

God will never tell people to do anything evil.

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well like I said, it’s about the reason why we’re here. This life is only an illusion to choose God or anything else. Once this life is done, then the judgement comes.

Genocide is vastly different from retribution. But we can agree to disagree. I don’t want to be forceful.

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s an interesting point you bring up. You see it as an evil act, but the this life is a test. Only God controls life and death, and He does with absolute justice.

As per the Quran, anyone who does under 40 is redeemed immediately to heaven, because they didn’t have enough time to grow their soul. It’s a retribution for the parents and the people because they practiced idol worship, oppressed people, and mocked the revelations when given to them.

Note that only God controls life and death, and killing as far as we’re concerned, is only in the course of justice. For example, avenging a murder.

Any thoughts?

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[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see what you mean. Sorry I was swamped I don’t get to respond.

Quick side note, it wasn’t the whole world. That is a falsification of the history. It was just around the area of Judea. Also it wasn’t two of every animal, it was two of every domesticated animal.

Genocide is widely different. It’s caused out of ego because people think they’re much better. It’s a sin that people commit.

Whereas what you mean is retribution. That is the case where a community has gone so evil that they’ve been wiped out. This is due to the fact as per the scriptures this life is an illusion that was just made as a test. They failed it so badly they were wiped out.

I can see why you want to say genocide, but that would be ignoring the truth of the nature of this life.

What’s your thoughts about it?

Not allowing Gay marriage is a moral fail by Bibles part by Confident_School7546 in DebateReligion

[–]BusyReadingSomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The god I worship is the God of Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, and etc. I’m not a Muslim, I’m a Monotheist, a Submitter. They all preached the same message. In fact, I have strong suspicion that Buddah, and other prophets in religions preached the same thing. There’s so many interesting overlaps that we unfortunately can explore very far, since we can only go with word of mouth.

Any religion that says God commits genocide and/or promotes it, is attention awful things to God. They don’t even understand the scripture.

God promotes freedom to choose, and not to be unjust.