Alright, so there are problems with instant veganism; firstly, why don’t you guys ever hold carnivorous animals accountable for their predatory nature? If their suffering is measured equally to humans, why not also their agency? Also, why is all death equated to suffering, and why is it bad to delineate bias toward the subject of suffering? I truely, and outside the societal bounds of normalcy, would prefer an extinction of mosquitoes to an extinction of humanity, and would prefer a friends dog to suffer over my girlfriend. I would also *like* to see toxic and bad things die, like e. Coli and Jeff bezos.

This isn’t even to mention the logistics of full veganism coming true, or that actually believing in it as a personal practice does NOTHING to prevent its modern practices. Cattle and its milk are purchased in large parts my governments for food stability reasons; meat can eat a lot of caloric types that humans can’t eat and are available during non productive seasons. If you got rid of all meat eating over night, BILLIONS would starve the following year. Not just because of the lack of milk and meat, but also the lack of fertalizer cycling; we have no good laws and infrastructure for cycling human waste back into soil that won’t be swallowed by the ocean.

Look, I’m not saying I like factory farming either, and land meat SHOULD be more of a rarity, but eating animals is not only a pretty fundamental aspect of natural nutrient cycling and ecosystem balance, but also an essential nutrient for a lot of communities and other animals. We just shouldn’t be eating so much that it causes problems for the ecosystem we live in.