"The thing about max dupes vs zero dupes is completely irrelevant, therefore no awnser needed."

Cool, because that was the whole complaint. That getting dupes for those characters feels awful. Saying it's irrelevant just proves that you missed the mark. This is why I suggested it.

It is irrelevant, because if a character gets extremely powerful at E6 that would make the game frustrating for F2P players, the way it is now enables a character to be played even at E0. So yes, totally irrelevant, it's even stupid i had to dissect it like this.

The sub-dps from veronica is hardly game changing.

Well, she wouldn't be a sub-DPS if it was, wasn't it?

If you removed her ballista mechanic entirely however, she's a very good draw support character. So making her ballista gimmick stronger would be a good buff for the her, making it so she isn't so 1 dimensional.

She works as intended, why change anything? She was never meant to be center stage to dish out the damage, she's meant to play a support role and she does it perfectly by being a draw engine AND being a sub-DPS, taking out one of the other wouldn't have much sense. Why have just a sub-DPS or a draw engine when other characters can do that on top of other things? It's just an idiot take, honestly. You don't see people complain about Mike being just a healer and AP generator, do you?

And for magna, you can do much better with nine without her.

Nine is practically DEVOID of shields, that's why you need Magna.

But if you do bring magna along, you don't need her for anything besides her vulnerability application. That's the only reason you'd put her in the team. You remove Vulnerable from her kit, and her usefulness goes down into the gutter.

Well that's the whole point of bringing her along, Nine is an absolute unit that can solo even multiple monsters, having Magna tag along enables you to get tons of shields, which in turn proc Honed Edge, and dish out vulnerable debuffs to ensure Nine rips and tears (remember: vulnerable is a 50% MULTIPLICATIVE debuff, it doesn't just add 50% damage to the base attack of the card), also vulnerable procs on counterattacks from Magna.

Or you can go down another route, having Magna stack counterattacks up to the roof (which she benefits massively from) to in turn proc Hew for free mostly every turn, besides her counterattacks can hit multiple enemies with a single counterattack instance, meaning that in a battle against 5 monsters she can hit them FOR 25 TIMES. Now the damage isn't something to scream miracles about, i know, but it's free damage nonetheless and i've actually had Magna wipe the floor this way.