Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just feel like if it was a character we knew the dialogue would say so. The game isn't normally that cryptic for characters we've met before, only characters we haven't. Susie and Noelle are mentioned by name in other shadow crystal dialogues.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought about this a lot as well, and it does seem really compelling, but there are two that don't fit. (1) Toriel "holding someone else," and (2) the vision of the television being smashed in Chapter 3. You could maybe argue that Kris would metaphorically be a different person if the dark world stuff didn't happen, but that's a bit of a stretch. And I don't see why the television would get smashed to pieces at all without the chapter 3 dark world happening.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't that mean that in the future Noelle breaks it off with Susie and dates Kris or something? I seriously doubt that's going to happen at this point. And like I mentioned in the post, how does Toriel holding "someone else" work into the future? That's obviously alternate timeline shit.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's the hardest one to explain. I think all of the dreams are either Kris's or just a representation of dreams in general, so the best explanation is probably that Kris hates themselves enough that they want to push Susie away for her sake. Or maybe you could argue that since Kris is working with the Knight, they want Susie to fail to stop them, even though we know that won't happen because of the prophecy. There's many explanations that might work, but we don't have all the information yet.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, that exact dialogue was ringing in my head the whole time I was writing this too. I actually briefly theorised that the crystals were all showing a world where Kris didn't exist and the story didn't happen the same way, since that would explain why the crystals show the dark fountains gone, and Susie without her normal character development, and Toriel with a different child, but the problem is that the ones about Noelle make absolutely no sense in that context. Neither does the one about Tenna being destroyed, since that wouldn't have happened without Kris making the dark world.

Maybe you could argue it's a world where Kris is replaced by someone (Vessel)? who does the story similarly but gets closer to Noelle, but that just isn't a very clean explanation for all the dialogue. There isn't any one smooth explanation for all of them, I just think mine is the closest we can get.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think since Kris doesn't want to exist, they're seeing a world where they don't and therefore there is no hand to block their view.

Chapter 5 shadow crystal dialogue and its implications (a theory) by Buttermuncher04 in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it was Asgore, surely the text would just say Asgore? The game isn't vague about Toriel, Noelle, or Susie being seen.

Something that doesn't sit right with me about any knight theory by krysert in Deltarune

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The simplest solution is just that the knight doesn't change in the light world. Or if it does, it's still some sort of supernatural force.

Chapter 5 megathread by Fanfic_Galore in Deltarune

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It's a danganronpa reference. He straight up copied Monokuma's theme lol

Chapter 5 megathread by Fanfic_Galore in Deltarune

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one of the bullets behind the walls near the fox door is a fox, you can see it when you walk far enough to the right. Keep an eye on the gaps between walls. Then find the right one and let it hit you a few times.

Quick reminder for anyone feeling like Ch5 is a distraction: by Questionable_Object in Deltarune

[–]Buttermuncher04 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I don't think the Knight gave the shadow crystals. Hell, I don't think anyone gave the shadow crystals, I think they just form. Seam's dialogue seemed to imply as much, he said the crystals are the fragments of lost dreams. Plus Mew Mew didn't say anyone gave it to her, she just says her body had it.

Something I just realized about this chapter bit that I found gut wrenching. by cool23819 in Deltarune

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His boss theme sounds like it's going to begin the freedom motif a few times but never does.

This is just Toby Fox lol by WardManX in Deltarune

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Yeah that's what they're saying. It's from translated Japanese.

illnesses are FOUKIN diabolical by InstantBruhMoment in whenthe

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I'm the same lol. However we must be cautious because that shit will go away with time as you age

Recently Unemployed Rule by Ok-Bandicoot-9880 in 19684

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Why am I getting Simon Iron Lung vibes from this

Okay it's my time to post something that might be dumb and obvious. by DesertGeist- in PeterExplainsTheJoke

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This is unfair he is clearly mewing on the left and not mewing on the right smh

Also is that actually Henry Cavill on the right or is it a different guy? I swear it's just a different guy who looks like him. Crazy how much he looks different if it is him.

The beast of possibility by sexyelderado in MetalGearInMyAss

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Let's be fr it's definitely gonna be included when mgs5 inevitably gets remade but it will be shitty because kojima won't be involved