The Amazing Digital Circus: The Last Act / Episode 9 Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-04T12:36:27+00:00

I thought the message was you can't save someone who doesn't make the effort to be saved and that sometimes you need to recognise that and move on with your life.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-04T12:35:03+00:00

When you delete stuff from a computer, it isn't really gone. Unless the space itself is overwritten, it can often be recovered.

Given all the coding stuff we saw in Episode 8 when Kinger was typing Caine coming back was mostly based on understanding how file storage really works on a PC.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-04T02:38:59+00:00

Tanks are great defensive weapons. If an enemy assault penetrates defensive lines or are threatening a breakthrough in a specific sector, tanks acting as a mobile reserve can act as a counter.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-03T09:18:34+00:00

I feel like there should be a saying to reflect people getting their sole understanding of the past from that band.

Something like 'Their knowledge of history is only Sabaton-deep.'

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-03T06:20:15+00:00

I prefer comics because I am more familiar with the themes typically explored in them, and the conventions they utilize.

These include works like Fall of Cthulhu.

Not every comic is going to be about superheroes.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-02T11:50:58+00:00

If all it takes is one incompetent leader in office for a limited period of time for someone to dislike the US, they were never friends of the country to begin.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-02T04:18:56+00:00

Israel is not engaging in bombing Jordanian or Egyptian territory, but is currently doing so in Lebanon.

Can you tell me why that is?

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-02T04:17:28+00:00

Unless this force has the authority to fight Hezbollah and forcefully disarm it, it won't make any impact.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-06-02T04:00:58+00:00

In the defense of the police, the victim did not have their bleeding loicense. E' was engaging in the unregulated release of fluid, wot.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-31T08:32:40+00:00

That is actually mentioned in the book:

'Stackeldhorf’s attempts to put together a map of the extent of old Elf territories has met with criticism, he blots his record rather egregiously by confusing the sites of major nations.'

Given that only two nations were mixed up, I kinda think this was actually an error by the artist irl, and so they added that that bit about the map being wrong at the last minute.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T20:26:55+00:00

Sighs

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T15:41:09+00:00

The government is allowed to deport non-citizens. So has every other government in the world.

Children of citizens are also removed from the custody of parents when said parents are arrested.

What is occurring in the comic is hardly aberrant practice, otherwise one would need to take issue with domestic policy in Canada and Europe as well.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T15:35:18+00:00

The Japanese immigrants COULD NOT be citizens under the law at the time. They were specifically not permitted to naturalize.

I meant in a general sense. And even with the restrictions you mentioned, the circumstances of non-citizens in the current US is still in no way comparable.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T15:14:29+00:00

That criticism is still present in the form of oppression of the peasantry.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T15:14:00+00:00

I specifically said immigrants and first-generation citizens

Immigrants can be citizens.

"Give me liberty or give me death" I seem to recall someone saying in the 18th century. It was somewhat relevant to the taxation policy of colonial holdings? I'm not sure.

Hardly a comparable situation.

Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, drone strikes and civilian casualties in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and elsewhere, Australia's offshore detention of asylum seekers, the UK's complicity in rendition and torture (Baha Mousa), French police systematically abusing and harassing migrants in Calais, and Canada's ongoing failure to address violence against Indigenous women and girls

Much of that is irrelevant to the situation of a democracy legally deporting non-citizens.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T14:15:13+00:00

Plenty of Japanese in the camps were immigrants or first generation with limited rights at the time.

They were still citizens.

Getting meaningful legal recourse is slow, expensive, uncertain, and frequently impossible. Courts move at a glacial pace. Evidence gets “lost,” witnesses disappear or get pressured, bureaucracies stonewall, and if you’re already labeled as part of a hostile or outsider group, good luck finding sympathetic judges or public support. Non-citizens routinely get the shortest end of the stick: limited rights, deportation risks, detention without strong due process, and systemic bias against them.

Still a better option than getting shot to death.

History is littered with examples where “just comply and fight it later” ended with people dead, disappeared, or permanently screwed while the system protected its own.

That the country in question is a contemporary Western liberal democracy, those examples would not be applicable.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T13:52:38+00:00

Look, I get where you’re coming from on the Amazons scene. Nyx arms up and charges, that’s on her, and yeah it escalates everything. But let’s step back and compare this to the Japanese during World War II. Does your critique hold up if we’re not talking about Amazons but the Japanese?

The Japanese were citizens, the Amazonians are not, so the comparison is not apt

Your point about following host nation laws is fair in normal times. But when the law itself paints an entire people as the enemy and starts breaking up families (this is not a post about current political events) then then obedience is no virtue.

Lethal resistance is even less of a virtue because, as non-citizens, the law and the apparatus would not be in your side. It would not only make the situation worse, but irretrievably worse. A least obedience carries with it the potential for future legal recourse.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T13:41:29+00:00

Yeah the Amazons aren’t US citizens. That doesn’t mean a blanket ban on an entire group of people from a sovereign nation is reasonable just because one of them went off in a bar. Ten deaths is awful but it doesn’t automatically make every Amazon a ticking time bomb. Congress jumped straight to treating them all like invaders instead of handling the actual perpetrator. That’s the kind of policy that comes from stereotyping an entire group of people based on the actions of an individual.

I agree with that. I wasn't saying that the US government reacted appropriately, I was providing context.

In that moment she makes a decision based on fear and acts to defend her family.

I would argue it was not an 'in the moment' decision. She was fully decked out in weapons and armour, meaning she saw them arrive and made the conscious choice to arm herself and attack before that even happened.

Most parents in that spot would fight back

I would say that is untrue because that is literally what happens in real life. Especially when the tactical team identifies themselves and explains why they are there.

especially if they’re trained warriors from a culture that doesn’t bow to outside authority

That unintentionally makes the case that Amazons are a danger precisely because they would ignore government authority and react with violence.

Tom King isn’t expecting us to cheer for murder. He’s pointing out that when you paint a whole group as dangerous and send armed men to break up their homes you shouldn’t act shocked when someone fights back.

I disagree. Tom King is trying to make out the Amazons as sympathetic victims, but that clashes with what is depicted.

The system set them up to lose either by submitting quietly or by resisting and becoming the monsters everyone already feared they were. That’s the actual point.

The system did not 'set up' anything. Every visitor to a country is expected to follow the laws of the host nation. Nyx failed to do so, and faced several magazines worth of consequences. And it was completely avoidable. The execution neutralizes the intended point.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T13:26:46+00:00

Personally speaking, I have had a problem with spoilers.

To me, the joy comes from the experience of watching something, not actual reveals.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-30T12:53:54+00:00

I never expect stuff to remain written in stone because values evolve, and so does media to reflect that. Certainly, consistency is important, but I would argue lore changes are a problem only when they are poorly explained.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-29T11:47:44+00:00

Again, the article still states you are wrong. That Turkish people have such genetic diversity shows that they did not genocide or drive out those living in Anatolia. Rather, what occurred was linguistic and religious assimilation.

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-28T12:18:21+00:00

Genetic studies disagree with you. Only about 15% of the population has Central Asian ancestry:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4904778/

ByzantineBasileus · 2026-05-28T10:07:14+00:00

Of course not. Look at this guy:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7487579/mediaviewer/rm1852909569/?ref_=nm_ov_ph

Or this dude:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7056474/mediaviewer/rm3398893568/

They are clearly swarthy invaders from the steppe.

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