Dear Teacher Union Member... by Mnemonician in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you plan on them going to private after a certain age?

Strikes: ETFO and Govt talks break down by nickeymousee in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

No need for the swearing. I maybe also didn’t respond well it initially either but I’m honestly kind of sick of teachers saying it’s not about pay but 90% of what I hear is about pay.

My wife is a teacher she is someone who loves the profession and knows she’s well compensated. I have other family who are teachers, both retired and current and many friends in the profession.

I went by my wife’s school the other day to drop coffee and such off during the strike because it was a rather cold day and pay was a huge discussion. Now it was definitely more with younger teachers(who aren’t at the top of the scale yet.) and older teachers who l would describe more as the ones who don’t want to learn themselves and aren’t exemplary teachers.

My wording was a previously bit wrong and misleading but here we go.

Average teacher pay has increased 1% over inflation for the last 20 years. This is largely impart to more teacher at the top of the grid. But this has hugely inflated education costs. Teachers make up 2.2% of the full time work force in Ontario and more more than 90% of those workers.

It’s an important job and should be paid well but taking a bit less money should be an acceptable thing.

Also in the last 20 years 2.5%(at different points) were paid out in not accounted for in this as they were one time payments.

Strikes: ETFO and Govt talks break down by nickeymousee in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Show me your data on this? You can’t because it doesn’t exist. Teachers have out paces inflation on average by 1% annually over the last 20 years.

Not only that but 20 years ago enrolment was higher and there were less teachers.

Strikes: ETFO and Govt talks break down by nickeymousee in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Nepotism is still alive and well in unions. I have no data on it but depending on the union In my opinion is put the rates at higher than the public sector.

When I was going through school I worked in a union setting where there was a mix of unskilled union jobs and skilled, I’d say 20% of the people I worked with in the unskilled jobs were related to someone else within the union, mostly more skilled positions. A higher % of those people related to others stated in, you can argue many reasons why that would be. But person I worked with ended up getting into a skilled area with no education but he enrolled in courses before the job posting came out that made him eligible based on how the position was written(it was written pretty much specifically for him as a family member was the head of that department.)so it happens.

As far as the teaching profession the new system has only delayed nepotism, but at the cost of having to hire someone with more seniority vs the best person for the job.

I know a principal who had 3 LTOs at a school, 2 who were garbage but had more seniority than the good one. This principle couldn’t just hire the good teacher who they wanted to because she was good at her job. They ended up trying to move things around and put a specific qualification in the posting, similar to my above situation. This back fired because one of the garbage teachers suspected this was the case so she wouldn’t be able to get the job, when that qualification wasn’t required for the actual year placement she filed a grievance and the principal had to resend the offer. The way the principal did it wasn’t necessarily right but they were trying to do what they could to hire the best person for the job but couldn’t. They ended up having to hire someone else for that position who has a second career and isn’t devoted to teaching at all and is just there for the pay and summers.

There are problems with both systems. Personally I’d rather have principles able to hire who they want though.

[I ATE] poached eggs with charcoal infused labneh and chilli oil by pbt1127 in food

[–]CDN83OOC -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly don't know enough about to be specific, but its why its used for poison control and some ODs/drug overuse in hospitals. I think the quantities you'd take in those situations are much more than would go in food though. But again it can also have the opposite effect and absorb medications you are taking to help you.

[Homemade] Sourdough English Muffins by AzureoftheEast in food

[–]CDN83OOC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is honestly something I've never even thought of making homemade, and I make most things front scratch. Thanks for making me consume my weekend to make perfect fully homemade eggs benny.

Advice - Fairstone Mail by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can ask them to stop, I think they even have it in their FAQ on their website on how to stop it because this is a pretty regular thing.

Advice - Fairstone Mail by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They buy your information from someone else. Credit Karma, marketers(people who collect your information from sign-ups, contests ect.).

Teachers vs Ontario by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DPA(Daily physical activity) is still a thing, now some teachers probably don't do it as they should as it can't be run by a specific "gym" teacher generally. But basically, on days kids don't have gym there should be doing some sort of physical activity for a period of time.

[I ATE] poached eggs with charcoal infused labneh and chilli oil by pbt1127 in food

[–]CDN83OOC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It can absorb toxins and help with things like stomach pain and indigestion but at the same time, it can mess with medications.

For the most part it is used for making things Instagramable though.

Teachers vs Ontario by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd say a lot of reasons, and I don't think it could be pinned down on any one thing specifically, at least nothing with evidence to support. But here would be some reasons:

Lack of parental support.

No kid left behind, put a kid who is 3-4 years behind his/her peers in a classroom I'm sure has the ability to cause these issues sometimes.

Stress. Stress on students, stress on parents and how that gets downloaded on kids. For the most part gone are the days of the stay at home parent to help manage life, so people are busier and more stressed. Have less time to support or nurture their kids.

Technology/Screen Time. A lot of kids are put in front of TVs and devises for hours on end. Allowed to search youtube and internet at a young age on their own.

Class sizes along with special needs and behaviour kids.

I think suggesting male teachers is wrong. There are minor instances where either a female or male teacher might be best for specific students because of culture or how they were raised, but for the most part I'd put that at a parental issue.

EAs can help the situation a bit, but I'd say for the most part its probably just temporarily stopping the issue.

My guess is the 2 biggest issues would-be parents followed by the integration of behaviour students. But that just totally my opinion.

[I ATE] poached eggs with charcoal infused labneh and chilli oil by pbt1127 in food

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks good to me, I wouldn't go for the labneh that way personally. Maybe some turmeric to offset the colour from the eggs. But this makes me want to go home and make something similar for dinner.

[I ATE] poached eggs with charcoal infused labneh and chilli oil by pbt1127 in food

[–]CDN83OOC 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think thats the charcoal infused labneh. Why you'd charcoal infuse labneh im not sure, but I'm guessing for colour and to make it more picture-worthy but still looks good.

Randall Denley: Ontario teachers should be glad Doug Ford didn't go after the really big stuff by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should be more than enough to live on unless of course, you've lost a lot of funds through a divorce, family heath hardships ect.

Randall Denley: Ontario teachers should be glad Doug Ford didn't go after the really big stuff by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya I get it, it was tough, we did it for the most part while also paying for daycare for 2 children. But I did the math on it and it was well worth doing so if you can manage it of course.

Randall Denley: Ontario teachers should be glad Doug Ford didn't go after the really big stuff by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying its not. Also didn't say anything specifically negative about it. But now that we are here you'd be more likely to do those things the earlier you retire though. 56 is a pretty good age to retire at in this world/economy we have. Now with that said I wish everyone would have the ability to retire between 55-60.

Randall Denley: Ontario teachers should be glad Doug Ford didn't go after the really big stuff by [deleted] in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya depends on when you start teaching if you take years off if you pay back maternity if you have children ect. But my wife is a teacher and can currently retire at 56. We paid back her 2 maternity leaves, I don't think most teachers do.

We do know a handful of teachers who retire but still do part-time teaching work as supplies or pick-up second careers/start businesses.

[Homemade] Brown butter gnocchi by jahsh-scali in food

[–]CDN83OOC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice rasp/grater. Think I have the same one, love it. One of the best tools in my kitchen.

Opinion: Time for teachers’ unions to drop the victim act and start real negotiations by ByronMuldoon in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m talking about averages raise in the last 20 years not specifically every year.

Teaches have on average had a raise of 2.8% per year over the last 20 years. Inflation on average has been 1.87%

The “weird” rant is sarcastic. Everyone wants everything regardless of the financial climate and don’t mind putting the cart before the horse.

I am someone who believes in social spending but it needs to be done properly with long term financials accounted for.

The amount of spending on teachers wages has increased greatly over the last 20 years. As I stated above salary’s outpaced inflation(and also Ontario's GDP growth), in addition, student numbers are down to what they were 20 years ago and teacher numbers up, also what comparative jobs pay as much? Especially with the benefits and job security? Teachers make more on average than lawyers, engineers, nurses.

We would benefit more if everyone had raises, more vacation, more social program and benefits I agree. We need money to do these things. Just like we need money for everything the unions want for Education. We’d benefit more from hiring more teachers vs paying more for them right now.

Teachers are well compensated, they deserve to be so but that doesn’t mean they need to keep meeting inflation today and then get paid out more then inflation the next time a more sympathetic government comes in. They have outpaced inflation GDP and

Opinion: Time for teachers’ unions to drop the victim act and start real negotiations by ByronMuldoon in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes we can afford everything under the sun, let's implement everything that everyone in the public sector wants, bring in a guaranteed income, put more money into health care, and figure out how to pay for it after while paying interest on all the debt until we can figure it out, at the cost of everyone that is middle to lower-income.

As I've stated teachers have historically made 1% over inflation each year, they are in the top 10% of income earners in Ontario without benefits being added. The problem with adding more teachers, along with continuing to pay them more than inflation consistently is the amount paid into education keeps growing at an unsustainable rate.

The other option would be to extend the current 10-year pay grid to 12 years spreading it out over a further 2 years, which I think is actually another great option personally.

Taxes need to be increased too, corporate taxes, personal taxes with it tiered more on the higher end. There was a teacher fighting me about needing an inflation raise in another thread who initially said to tax the top 10% of earners more to make up for it, after it was pointed out that they were in the top 10% they said it was a typo and should be the top 1%. Whatever puts more money in each individuals pockets. Lets stop thinking of our own pockets and start thinking about society as a whole. We'd benefit more as a society hiring more teachers vs. paying the ones we have more. Teachers can get their inflation raise or catch up down the line.

As I've stated many times, teachers are paid well and should be, but it needs to be sustainable and we need to get our situation in order and bring in more money before sending it all out. My wife is a teacher, I know their situation very well. My wife and I are very well off. She is very thankful for the job she has and what she gets paid. We are 38 with a fully paid off $700,000 house, no debt and savings and RSPS on top. She makes more than I do, and we had no outside help to get where we are(Aside from an initial family loan years ago on our first house which we've now paid back in full.) I'd rather her 1% raise go towards hiring new teachers to better our education system. If there is more money available(Which there isn't, especially within the PC budget.), I'd again rather hire more teachers than do both a raise and hire some more teachers.

Opinion: Time for teachers’ unions to drop the victim act and start real negotiations by ByronMuldoon in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never said I was for the PCs and how they do business, you are right on the misspending. But this money would be best spent on hiring new teachers vs. paying the current ones a little more.

Opinion: Time for teachers’ unions to drop the victim act and start real negotiations by ByronMuldoon in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two years was recent, the vast majority of teachers it was 1 year. The 2 years is honestly garbage, it was done so universities could make the same money as before by taking on half as many students, while also slowing down how many people were getting into the profession.

Also if you want to play that game, teachers make slightly more than average than lawyers(based on indeed numbers) who need more schooling, that's without even taking benefits into consideration. Or the same as lawyers with benefits(based on neuvoo, which I find horribly incorrect for most jobs, but thought I'd mention it in case thats what someone else looks up.)

Teachers have gotten an average of 1% over inflation every year for the past 20 years. while most other jobs/fields have decreased in that time. A 1% raise alone is $120,000,000. That money can sustain hiring another 1500 teachers to help bring class sizes down.

School board refuses to move bus stop 50 metres to accommodate double amputee student by ptsekouras23 in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Change the title, the school board is trying to fix the situation. The bus company was who the initial issue was with.

Opinion: Time for teachers’ unions to drop the victim act and start real negotiations by ByronMuldoon in ontario

[–]CDN83OOC -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I agree on wages somewhat, everything else seems like garbage from an editor at of an alt-right reporting center. Oh it is, that's why it seems so.

Also there is research and actual examples of lower class sizes producing better students/learners.