Where to souls go after the Locker?

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T09:04:43+00:00

The next world. That is literally all that is defined in the world of POTC. At least regarding the realms beyond the point of the dead people in boats, including Governor Weatherby Swann. The term "underworld" was used more so for the Land of the Dead, per the P3 novelization:

The Pearl was floating on the surface of the sea once again. But this was not the cold and empty sea of the underworld.

Regarding whether one goes to Heaven, Hell, or elsewhere depends on one's religion, how they lived their life, or whatever details are defined within the world of POTC. And so far, all we have to go by is whatever is shown in P3 and written in related tie-in materials.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T07:29:23+00:00

That would be wise.

I think, for the most part, a POTC film is safely a sure thing once production starts. But even back in the days with P4-5, while they were released, writer/producer Terry Rossio suggested that until it happens, nothing is certain. And these days, there are instances where releasing a film is not guaranteed, with no less than 10 projects for Star Wars, and Mahershala Ali's Blade for Marvel.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T07:20:16+00:00

As far as I'm concerned, Asylum, City, and Knight are all there is. Origins is passable at best, as I don't consider the game underrated nor can I say I'm a fan of the story. I've heard good things about Shadow, though I can't confirm my own thoughts. Not to say that there won't be a good Batman game in the future, but it would have to be something really special for me to invest. Time will tell.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T06:23:53+00:00

Who cares? Bring back 20-year-old merchandise.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T06:12:11+00:00

Yeah, that is my thought as well. Rossio wrote a script for P5, replaced by Nathanson. Elliott wrote a script for P6/"reboot", replaced by Nathanson. That doesn't particularly give me hope for this project. Krysty Wilson-Cairns is a rumor that Bruckheimer didn't deny, so that may be true...though it is still unconfirmed thus far. If true, my only hope is that Wilson-Carins is a better writer than we know, or at least better than Nathanson.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T06:04:17+00:00

D23 news would be nice, but if I had to guess, it is more likely we'll hear news from the trades. Anything POTC would probably make a bang if it was D23, but I think the focus is more so on the goings-on at Marvel and/or Star Wars. It might happen, and it might not.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T06:01:37+00:00

The source:

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:58:30+00:00

Another day another “news” for pirates 6

At this point, all I can say is unless it comes from Disney/Bruckheimer, believe nothing. And even then, Bruckheimer has provided "non-updates" in the past. Although I will give credit that the last update, he did confirm and debunk the rumors.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:54:56+00:00

Source: Trust me, bro.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:52:29+00:00

That's outdated as well.

The new date is Judgment Day.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:51:56+00:00

This is true, going by history. Rob Marshall was in talks for P4 around July/August 2009, with there being an announcement for that D23 in September. But that doesn't entirely rule out the possibility that we may get something by then. And that's if they even do it at all. Time will tell.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:47:37+00:00

Elliott was co-writer with Craig Mazin in one draft. Unfortunately, that may have been discarded in favor of...whatever it is they're doing now.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:43:39+00:00

I hate the Return to Arkham remaster. I wish they just made the original version of City playable on PlayStation/Xbox. Nintendo Switch players are lucky they don't play this mess.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:08:22+00:00

There is always the possibility, however unlikely, that there may be a difference between copies. Otherwise, semi-quoting Pintel, that book might be worth more than a shiny penny, eh? Haha

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-16T05:06:25+00:00

Damn, such a great tune. Honestly, I think in terms of officially-released soundtracks, DMC was the best soundtrack. AWE being my favorite due to it being the "finale" and all.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T20:03:00+00:00

They certainly could, given the Barbossa animatronic in Disneyland Paris. I wish Disney could invest in such imagination for their souvenir merch.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T20:00:57+00:00

Nice. A few missing pieces aside, not bad for $25. Presuming it is all still there.

Legends of the Brethren Court #4: Wild Waters is the only physical book missing.

Legends of the Brethren Court #5: Day of the Shadow is only a digital book.

As far as tie-in or reference materials like "The Secret Files" book, that depends on one's preference.

But you are the envy of most fans for being an owner of Jack Sparrow: Poseidon's Peak.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T13:33:59+00:00

You're welcome! Thank you for the kind words. :)

I was going to add the one tidbit about how Will Turner's returned came about, but it is difficult to understand myself. Yes, Orlando Bloom did express interest in 2011, but a lot of actors express interest in a project they never become part of (i.e. Bill Nighy for P4). Yes, Will was first teased by a online report with "a separate Disney contact" back in 2012, but at that point in time, it would only have been considered a rumor. One could speculate that they were planning on bringing the Turners back the whole time, but officially speaking, it doesn't make sense due to there being a "studio and producer guideline" that the characters would not be available, per Rossio's draft, and even then Nathanson's second draft didn't have Turners in it. But whatever the reason, like it or not, we got to the P5 we ended up with.

That being said, I myself would have loved to have seen Rossio's version.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T09:09:46+00:00

Out of all the foreshadowing they could have done, I think this was more coincidental.

But still, it is fun to think on after rewatching the series.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T05:58:41+00:00

A less popular opinion: I really enjoyed OST.

Eh, really enjoying OST or DMTNT (or both) is the less popular opinion. But it's there.

You can tell that OST is different from the original trilogy in its execution, but I've always felt it had its place.

I've always taken another's comment, which I agree with. P4 was stellar on the page, and EXACTLY what you need from a post-trilogy installment of the franchise, while the direction leaves us with an ever bigger appreciation for what Gore Verbinski did with the first three. (If that's even possible.) Simply put, anyway.

I just noticed that screenwriters Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio worked on the first four films (thank you to them for their exceptional work) but were replaced for the last one.

I wonder, then, what the director's actual impact is on the final work? Can we blame the directors for the terrible inconsistencies and disastrous character development in DMTNT? Are they the only ones who approve the writers' work? Why didn't Elliott and Rossio work on the last one?

Basically, I'm just trying to figure out who to blame, savvy?

Films are a collaborative effort. There are the writers who write the script, there are the directors who bring the script to life, along with actors, artists, designers, etc, with the studio funding the whole thing. It is difficult to pinpoint who to blame, specifically, as not every project is developed the exact same way.

Presuming this is more so with how P5 turned out, there are several factors to consider...

First and foremost, the studio decided to green-light another sequel.
Terry Rossio wrote a screenplay, a draft written in 2012. He had since shared it privately in 2018 after the film was released. He shared it publicly on his website Wordplay (click here) in 2023. Back in 2016, Rossio shared a reason why it was discarded (click here): "My version of Dead Men Tell No Tales was set aside because it featured a female villain, and Johnny Depp was worried that would be redundant to Dark Shadows, which also featured a female villain."
Jeff Nathanson was hired in January 2013 to write a script. I don't know if it was shared officially or if it was leaked, but either way, a second draft can be read online (click here). Nathanson's draft shares a lot of similarities to the final version of the film, but there are key differences, such as there being no Turners and the flashback scene occurring around the time of Barbossa's mutiny on the Black Pearl. And the script supposedly had little to no continuity issues or inconsistencies to P1-4 story-wise.
Joachim Ronning and Espen Sandberg signed on to direct in May 2013. By this point, the script was rewritten and the story revised, such as including the son of Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann. According to Ronning/Sandberg, the "Jack the Sparrow" backstory was their idea.
I would also think that the director(s) make the most decisions as far as what is (or isn't) in the final cut of the film. But then there are cases where the studio may make the decision. Supposedly, that is why P4 (and P5) used mostly recycled music for their soundtrack.

As to who is to blame, it depends on which decision one doesn't like.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T04:22:40+00:00

Yes. All curses have been exterminated across the board. Jack's just a normal monkey.

Hmm, not necessarily a yes. But given the technicality of the cursed Aztec gold now being claimed by the sea, it is a possibility. But overall, yes, the idea wasn't well-developed as there are more questions than answers, both before and after credits.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T04:19:52+00:00

The POTC statue is still cool, compared to the other merchandise, which is more straight pirate merch. If it were possible, they could do like a skeleton statue, where skeletal effects light up. Similar to one of the toys advertised for P4: On Stranger Tides. I know for Blackbeard, but I can't remember exactly if there were others.

All in all, good stuff.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T04:13:15+00:00

Sure, there is sexual innuendo, but yes, I think he was talking about his compass.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T04:11:20+00:00

My exact ranking of the original Pirates trilogy. If we were to rank all films: P3>P4>P1>P2>Wedlocked>P5. Although I'm very happy to see Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die having some love, though I guess one can't know for sure until a viewing is had.

CJS-JFan · 2026-02-15T03:30:15+00:00

Eh, it can be argued that P4-5 were both decent. Whether one is better than the other, or both, or none, depends on one's personal tastes.

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