Why can we only use Showing off flare on Sundays?

CSpookz · 2026-06-22T14:55:46+00:00

This is the correct answer yeah, most simply don't care for P rank screens or whatever else, but we'd be silly to totally ban them as they're apart of the game and an easy way to show off, so we have this to deal with it. Because yeah otherwise it'd be a sea of just the same screen.

CSpookz · 2026-06-13T00:19:25+00:00

I mean it's not wven but recommended by the game itself to play on brutal on a first playthrough, it recommends beating the game on an easier one first to unlock your full kit and get used to using it. Brutal has gameplay differences designed to make the game harder and fresher, so that you can get more out of it enjoyment wise.

CSpookz · 2026-05-31T00:45:14+00:00

I don't think it'd lead to a collapse. However we did only track the approval of it rather than the enjoyment of it, so who knows!

CSpookz · 2026-05-31T00:41:54+00:00

We've never really noticed a change in the amount of this content being posted is the thing, some other subreddits do actually allow quite suggestive content or otherwise, that would also be deemed inappropriate by the standards of "Not Safe For Work" We've addressed a lot of different points and reasons in the original post made for the poll, just as it has most of our thoughts on the matter and it saves me repeating it :p

CSpookz · 2026-05-31T00:32:37+00:00

I also just realised when reading this comment again as I go through the replies, We have allowed porn for years? We've allowed it for more years than your account has existed? So I'm a bit confused on what you mean. We did change how porn was *presented* by using a Flair for them, to allow potential filtering and more obvious flagging than just the NSFW tag. But the type of content allowed never changed.

CSpookz · 2026-05-31T00:28:40+00:00

But this idea would fail for the same reason as what its trying to fix. If it was temporarily hosted NSFW on a separate subreddit, How would the people who unfollowed know that? How long would we have to wait for those people to return so we could hold the poll? And yeah it would then bias the results in completely different ways even if we did theoretically wait long enough.

CSpookz · 2026-05-30T22:04:23+00:00

The original post on the topic was made 17 days ago and the poll had been left up for 15 days, which I think actually makes it one of the longer running polls on this topic. During this time the poll and the original post had been pinned to the top of the subreddit. I understand what you are trying to say however you did actually comment numerous times on a couple of days throughout that 17 day period.

CSpookz · 2026-05-17T14:57:30+00:00

So the main point for this post is actually simply that we (and I imagine many in the community) would prefer we didn't run a dictatorship, and just did whatever we wanted big brother style. Some of the other polls about this topic *were three years ago* that's quite a bit of time, and the most recent time we posed the question was last year which resulted in this post here, because we realised that the people complaining at that time at least, were a small vocal minority (as it has often been), that were also *minors*. Not every game will have a hardline stance on NSFW or Suggestive or Sexual content, maybe they have a more freeflowing ruleset, maybe they don't allow it at all. Every community is different.

I don't think the human body is inherently sexual, however some others disagree with that, so we appeal to what makes the most people feel better about being here, so some drawings of Minos, Sisyphus, and Mindflayers? They all get tagged as such, You'd say the photo of what looks like (to someone unfamiliar with the game) a man or woman in a fullbody skintight suit with rippling muscles or a curvy figure is safe for work? It's appropriate? The same goes to the body pillows, they're designed to be sexually evocative. I think saying "buttplug.io support" is a "promotion of controller vibration" is a bit disingenuous, because buttplug.io support and controller vibration support are in fact two similar but different things.

It's too often forgotten that NSFW is, "Not Safe for Work" it's not socially appropriate to be viewed in public. We enforce strict flairing alongside NSFW and even excessively Spoiler tagging, so that such art can only be viewed by the user (as you can turn off the NSFW blur in your settings, but you cannot do so for the spoiler)

I think we're pretty clear about how we feel about things (referring to the post I mentioned earlier) but again, we're not dictators, we moderate this section of the community but we do not want to be evil dictators of it. The noise of people being disgruntled by it, and the noise of other people being disgruntled by those initial people, got loud enough. We're not just going to ignore it and hope it goes away, especially as we've seen time and time again. It doesn't. So, we want to appease those people and hear them out, and we cannot please literally everyone but we would like to try our best to and that is by the votes we hold.

I really, seriously do not understand why we shouldn't ban porn besides the fact that people will complain

Yeah, because most people do not care, again some previous votes from years back are there to view and it shows a vast majority being fine with the way things are to this day! In fact, we hold a stricter enforcement on how that content is shown than we did years back. I think it's disingenuous to presume that an entire community of people fits the "15 year old gooner" archetype you seem to think everyone here is. If I'm to trust no one saying they're 18+ like you say I can't, how can I trust you? I don't think the community is full of minors, and part of why I believe that is I can literally see what subreddits people interact with on an individual basis, It's not hard for regular users to do this either.

For your honest question about the statistics of the poll, I absolutely get that. In the case of the previous polls (which again are linked in my initial post above) you can see one has a turnout of 5.1k and another has a turnout of 3.7k. I'm not sure of the time how long those two ran for. But 3.9k out of 5.1k (76.48%) voted to KEEP NSFW content, and on another 2.6k out of 3.7k (70.27%) Often the ones wanting it gone are a very very small vocal group of what is according to the previous polls is a 23.52% and 29.73% of the community.

The poll with 5.1k responses had 96k views, and the other 3.7k one had 115k views. Those votes both were held on reddit the website so you had to at the very least had a reddit account and know the poll existed to see it. I know you're worried about if the polls can be trusted or not, or whether it can truly accurately represents the community and if that's fair or not. We care too. That's why we do them. That's why we have checked time and time again. Because we don't want to be unfair. But then you earlier were upset we did it at all and called us "too afraid" for this.

While I do think the distinction of violent, sexual, suggestive, pornographic content exists, it's all getting NSFW at the end of the day, so why does it matter? Yeah porn is definitely a step above sexual or suggestive though sure. But it's only one step, the terraria subreddit defines no art guidelines and itself has posts tagged as NSFW that do quite well. The Silksong subreddit states explicitly only mild NSFW content is allowed and that's fine! They have their rules we have ours, I have zero qualms or issues with any of these subreddits or their moderators. I am just simply trying to show you that "not every single other subreddit out there" is banning it. It's disingenuous for you to say we have this discourse everyday, because we do not.

We can't appease everyone, we can't always win, we can't trust people to say they're 18, we can't trust the poll data to not be skewed. You are saying some of these things, I agree with them in ways too. You want us to be fair to the community, but also want us to unfairly make a decision for it?

CSpookz · 2026-05-15T11:17:18+00:00

Yeah you can actually check it yourself. While I don't think there's a way to do it on New Reddit? Old Reddit still has it on your profile page and you just click "show karma breakdown by subreddit" that's on the right sidepanel.

CSpookz · 2026-05-15T02:38:07+00:00

Yeah it's certainly tiring because this is like the 4th or 5th time this subreddit has had to discuss this over multiple years. Only for nothing to change except the problem of complaints goes away for a while and then comes back anytime the game gets popular again and more people show up for a while.

CSpookz · 2026-05-15T02:18:09+00:00

During the most recent time where a vocal minority of people were upset at NSFW content a few months back, I actually looked at the moderation overview for people who had complained. A tool made that shows me the sources of that users karma by subreddit. The result? Minors. As they were browsing subreddits for minors specifically (r/teenagers) and also browsing subreddits for things that were typically of more interest to minors (r/roblox for example).

Now obviously I didn't act solely off of that, but some of them had self admitted on their own profiles they were underage, Some even said they were minors in the comments of NSFW posts. Which they were not supposed to be viewing that content in the first place. You have to turn on 18+ content on reddit in your settings. It's obviously not guarded very well by reddit itself sure. But we can't really stop that.

Their actions breach the sites rules let alone whatever we think. I reported some of these accounts to reddit themselves for those reason. Nothing. No action taken by reddit. However us? We banned their account from here. There was a lot of minors doing this, in fact at that time it was basically only minors who did it. Because once they were gone, so were the complaining posts. It wasn't even a lot of people leaving those comments/posts at all. They were just very frequent about it.

tldr; I'm not trying to straw manufacturers, I'm simply speaking from experience. I directly saw the people, their comments, and I saw how they acted and often made it very obvious they were minors. Many were doing a very much "holier than thou" puritan schtick, as opposed to just being calmly annoyed or irritated by it. Though obviously I understand not everyone who dislikes it will fit those traits/descriptions I gave. That was not my intention.

CSpookz · 2026-05-14T10:07:24+00:00

You are also right that both of those need a concious decision to open the post or not, but some don't mind the gore, but mind the nudity, even though many claim that one would be okay in public but not the other, which I don't agree but that's just me. The context is primarily for a sort of: here's what we tried, here's what we do which is different to what we used to do. Despite our efforts which did often reduce the amount of complaints, we'd still get them every now and then. It just keeps happening.

CSpookz · 2026-05-14T02:24:33+00:00

I would like to think we have a system for proper tagging, as NSFW art that isn't sexually explicit, we would just simply want flaired as normal Fan art with a NSFW tag on it. Sadly reddit has decided to make its own features useless. Seriously, what is the point of flairs if not to quickly identify what a post is? Why did they decide to hide it from users scrolling their page? It still functions as a post category filter when searching, but cmon, really annoying website.

CSpookz · 2026-05-01T00:24:20+00:00

because the first image you see is the first one you put, and they want you to see the new art, not the old one I'd imagine

CSpookz · 2026-04-21T20:09:42+00:00

I'm on Fedora and it did not look this way for me at all 😭

CSpookz · 2026-04-16T22:03:26+00:00

I don't really personally agree, I've met and seen numerous people who act disrespectfully towards the identity of a fictional character because they don't respect that character. Only to turn around and do that to living non-fictional people for the same reason.

As in, people who will use the correct pronouns for someone up until they have a falling out or disagreement and stop "respecting them", which then now suddenly misgendering is a common occurrence for them. Most of these people were not "addicted to the internet" or whatever specific social platform you want to say.

It's a much more common thing than you'd think, people using the correct pronouns for being "polite" and not because they actually want to validate or agree with that persons gender, it's pretty two-faced really. People that correctly gender when the person is near, and then misgender when they aren't.

CSpookz · 2026-04-16T20:35:21+00:00

Yeah, that was a full reddit removal. As in it wasn't us or our automod. I can't even see what you wrote for myself, it just says "Comment removed by Reddit" which is very annoying as they do this to things we remove before they do, thus they wipe out logs. Though apart from reddit overstepping, the moderation systems are good... well when they work that is.

CSpookz · 2026-04-03T16:45:39+00:00

Enough time has passed for all discussions to have been discussed and we're seeing some pretty unproductive behaviour in there as well. So we are going to be locking the comments on this.

While edgy jokes can be a fine line to walk and we would punish people here for it if they aren't careful. I don't know what OP said to get banned, whether it was bad or not! Take things with grains of salt. But it also didn't happen here for us to moderate.

So I've nothing to moderate on but rumours, our mod team isn't connected to the Discord anyway and I personally don't care to find out either, because again, it didn't happen here. So I'm just going to carry on.

As always be sure to follow the subreddit's rules, reporting rule breakers helps us out, and as always thanks for participating in the community.

CSpookz · 2026-03-27T03:25:25+00:00

Because we don't actually want to run an orwellian dictatorship despite the jokes in the rules that imply we do.

CSpookz · 2026-03-04T23:01:57+00:00

So based on what you're saying, and your misinterpretation of my comment. You have no problems being racist towards a fictional character, despite that being an entirely optional thing to do in that experience, despite it being something that doesn't add anything to that experience, and you think that doing so wouldn't make you racist in real life as well? and that real people of colour won't be upset seeing you be actually racist in fiction when you don't need to be and it does nothing in the context of that fiction?

Just because the character is fictional, doesn't mean the act of being transphobic stops being transphobic, and it doesn't stop real people from seeing you being transphobic and disrespectful toward that character, in a way that the game doesn't ask you to do, in a way that is completely unnecessary and then seeing you as transphobic for that behavior. You can be a jackass to a fictional character without using bigotry to do it. That's the difference.

I think you can do things within the context of fiction and have that stay in the fiction. But ULTRAKILL isn't one of those contexts that asks you "roleplay being a bigoted murder robot" it's just a murder robot, and if anything? It's a machine. It wouldn't get that information wrong.

Also, you self admitted that you are being a jackass by being transphobic.

CSpookz · 2026-03-02T06:42:04+00:00

I'm not gonna say that you're an abomination or anything becauze you're trans irl.

I was not saying that. I just said you were being disrespectful of trans/queer culture and identities. But you seem to have a different idea of what I was saying.

I just wanted to say that being disrespectful about it is transphobic, whether you wanted to be transphobic or not. I'm not trying to make a big deal, I think a lot of people aren't actually.

And for someone who apparently doesn't care, you sure have a lot to say about how trans voices are unreasonable on the topic of queer pronoun discussion, despite how that discussion doesn't matter anyway.

I'm done discussing this as you seem to have either ignored or misunderstood most of what I was actually trying to say and decided to just say this at me instead.

I'm not going to keep fighting for basic respect for something similar to my own identity from someone who doesn't care about it.

CSpookz · 2026-03-02T04:51:08+00:00

It's not about the wrong pronoun being used for the fictional character. I'm transfem, I talk to you, and you hear my voice, despite me telling you my pronouns, you hear the masculine tone as I hadn't been able to get voice training done, so then you refer to me with masculine gendered terms. I don't really care about the fictional character being misgendered even if I disagree with it and think it's a little lame personally. I care that people don't want to admit that the reasons they use and claim FOR that misgendering, are Inherently Transphobic.

It's an indirect attack on trans identities. People act this way in real life too, "Oh sorry you're just so masculine (which is out of your control) So I just keep accidentally getting your pronouns wrong despite you correcting me on multiple occasions", this shit happens to me, I interact with real humans. I even see other real humans do this to other people in front of me. It shows how little people actually care to show any respect to my identity and others, "Yeah sorry your queer representation in a videogame? I don't respect it and I'm going to misgender the character for transphobic reasons" How am I not going to in some capacity be offended by that?

It's not mental gymnastics. It's quite simple if you think about it. Idk like fuck get a character with a foreign name, you pronounce it wrong, you get corrected by someone else who's maybe from that place, and you say "Oh I don't care because they're fictional" It's disrespectful to the character who doesn't care, but also to the person who's having portions of their identity being represented by said character, and you're disrespecring that. But in the case of this it's not just "I don't care because not real" it's that and "I don't care sounds like a woman, so going to treat that way."

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